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  • brunnoce
    MVP
    • Mar 2005
    • 4133

    #16
    Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

    just realise , no directing...
    and i only use the power swing for meat balls or when i relly need a fly ball(but i notice that the power swing produces a lot of foul balls back to the screen, which is cool)....but meat balls are rare in my games, as my slider is set at 10.
    i am having a blast with this game now man....since i changed theses sliders , about 15 games ago, i never touched them against...b4 this i was always tweaking slider, and that kind of took the fun of the game. but now its a hole new game for me...i can just play normaly and know ill get a realistc result..no 25 hits 7 runs scores, or 16 strike out agasint some poor scrub....

    edit. one last think i dont use the hitters eye feature...i aways move the eye outise the strike zone, so i dont guess right. i wish we could just turn it off. but np there.
    Last edited by brunnoce; 03-12-2007, 06:04 PM.
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    • jim416
      Banned
      • Feb 2003
      • 10606

      #17
      Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

      I'm going to try this out later on CLASSIC hitting. Anybody tried that yet?

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        Johnny Canuck
        • Dec 2004
        • 1279

        #18
        Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

        I use classic batting, and I have my contact set pretty high. I was striking out a lot, but now only 5-7 times on average. I have a few more hits, but not unrealistic numbers. Usually between 6-10.

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        • brezz2001
          Pro
          • Mar 2003
          • 707

          #19
          Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

          So how high should I experiment with contact?

          Brian

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          • serialmike
            Banned
            • Mar 2003
            • 299

            #20
            Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

            the avg ml team has 9 hits per game

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            • sask3m
              Banned
              • Sep 2002
              • 2352

              #21
              Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

              Originally posted by jim416
              I'm going to try this out later on CLASSIC hitting. Anybody tried that yet?
              jim, i'm trying out the swing stick and i'm liking it so far, i also find i'm getting a few more foul balls using it, i have step influence at 0 just to get used to the swing stick as this makes it easier, i just pull back as the pitcher is in his windup and release just as the ball arrives, i don't try and influence the hit with the circular motion they talk about in the book nor am i pushing up for power, basically its just timing, same as using the A button w/o the L stick, i haven't been able to hit any hrs. so far this way which is good in some ways i guess seeing as most complain about to many, i have power set at 20, then again i've been swinging at pretty much anything close to the plate,lol, i have hit a few off the walls for doubles though.

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              • sask3m
                Banned
                • Sep 2002
                • 2352

                #22
                Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

                Originally posted by brunnoce
                just realise , no directing...
                and i only use the power swing for meat balls or when i relly need a fly ball(but i notice that the power swing produces a lot of foul balls back to the screen, which is cool)....but meat balls are rare in my games, as my slider is set at 10.
                i am having a blast with this game now man....since i changed theses sliders , about 15 games ago, i never touched them against...b4 this i was always tweaking slider, and that kind of took the fun of the game. but now its a hole new game for me...i can just play normaly and know ill get a realistc result..no 25 hits 7 runs scores, or 16 strike out agasint some poor scrub....

                edit. one last think i dont use the hitters eye feature...i aways move the eye outise the strike zone, so i dont guess right. i wish we could just turn it off. but np there.
                so are you able to hit a few hrs by just releasing the swing stick w/o pushing up, i suppose its a matter of perfect timing on balls out over the plate or at least in the upper part of the zone.

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                • Maynard
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 831

                  #23
                  Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

                  its an interesting theory, but not a revolation by any means......if people read the slider discription they can see that it says for contact, move to the right to increase user/cpu ability to make contact with the ball.....that means make contact, not get more hits.....

                  power says....move this slider right to increase the power of your hits

                  having user contact at 75 just means u need it that high, to make sure you dont K as much....which in turn means your probably hacking at everything u see.....i have my contact at 40 and power at 20......i K maybe 7-10 times per game......i also walk 2-5 times per game...

                  as far as the cpu is concerned....i have AI SKILL at 100...Contact/power at 40.......and here is my theory on this......the skill at 100 makes the cpu a better hitter....not more hits, just a more skilled hitter.....they swing at pitches they can hit, instead of swinging at crap every time.....the contact at 40 doesnt allow them to make contact everytime they swing....you wont K them to much if its higher then 40....power 40 allows them to get some HR's and 2B.....it turns a soft liner to the SS into a hard liner over the SS glove.....if u know what i mean.....

                  another thing i believe is that the ai batting slider for effective MOD must be at 100.....this forces you to use an expanded halo when pitching......u dont always have to expand the halo, but if u throw a small halo in the K zone, chance are the cpu will get a base hit

                  i took JT's sliders and modified them to my skill level......i now have realistic games, with a balance of HR vs base hits (1 HR for every 6 basehits)....plus my K's are realistic on both sides......oh and not to mention, the cpu is a challeng and wins now......

                  1st 8 games i was 8-0.....next 15 games, 11-7.......

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                  • Walker8
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 980

                    #24
                    Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

                    I have contact set at 50, step at 55 and power and ps at 25 and it seems pretty realistic.

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                    • brunnoce
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 4133

                      #25
                      Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

                      Originally posted by sask3m
                      so are you able to hit a few hrs by just releasing the swing stick w/o pushing up, i suppose its a matter of perfect timing on balls out over the plate or at least in the upper part of the zone.
                      definatly yes...its hard though... mostly with my power hitters like soriano, lee and ramirez...although i did hit a hr without the power swing with m.derosa!
                      but definatly possible specially if you time well balls up in the zone with your powers hitter , just like you said.
                      very very rewarding...
                      but i guess the meat pitch isnt that bad neither as in real life pitchers do thorw those"fat" pitches sometimes..although offcourse theres no ball marker, lol
                      but like i said i have meat pitch slider at 10, so its very rare for them to appear...and with aces its almost impossible unless he is tense and fatigue.
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                      • brunnoce
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 4133

                        #26
                        Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

                        guys , what about batter influence? would you guys say that the more batter influnce the easier to get hits? or the other way around?
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                        • Heelfan71
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 19940

                          #27
                          Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

                          I think this may be wishful thinking..........Or maybe it works with the swing stick. I use classic and hit too many Hr's with power set higher than zero.
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                          • baa7
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 11691

                            #28
                            Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

                            Originally posted by Maynard
                            if people read the slider discription they can see that it says for contact, move to the right to increase user/cpu ability to make contact with the ball.....that means make contact, not get more hits
                            Not all hit pitches go for hits, of course. But more contact means more hits. Obviously the higher the contact slider, the more contact with the ball, meaning more chances of a hit.

                            I know everyone's skill level is different, but I couldn't NOT hit pitches with the contact slider above 50. I ended up playing with it at 40 for a while, and later dropped to 30. Any higher and there are too many balls put into play - that was my experience anyway.

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                            • Walker8
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 980

                              #29
                              Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

                              I think 40 or 50 is a good range. 30 seems too low because it's impossible to hit balls out of the zone. I dont think it does equal more hits. I'm not getting more hits. I'm making more contact yes, but I've played a few games and the hit totals have actually been lower because I'm hitting balls that are in tougher locations and getting a lot of popups and groundouts, where I probably would have missed and stayed alive, and hit a better pitch or struckout.

                              The problem with the lower contact setting is its too many complete whifs or you are hitting a good pitch to hit for the most part. Its strikeout or hit. That is not realistic.
                              Last edited by Walker8; 03-12-2007, 09:39 PM.

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                              • brunnoce
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 4133

                                #30
                                Re: New Info on power and contact sliders

                                Originally posted by Walker8
                                The problem with the lower contact setting is its too many complete whifs or you are hitting a good pitch to hit for the most part. Its strikeout or hit. That is not realistic.
                                you said everything there! AGREED.
                                not to mention that its very frustating to strike out 15 times a game.
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