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  • El_MaYiMbE
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 1427

    #61
    Re: "game informer" tidbit from 2k sports forum.

    Originally posted by baa7
    Look, I understand my Xbox Live-less, standard TV lifestyle is going the way of the Dodo. This is really my one last loud kick at the horse before I either choose to finally hook up, or jump off a bridge because it's all too hi-tech for me
    for ur own safety just hook up....lol
    Last edited by El_MaYiMbE; 02-20-2008, 09:50 AM.

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    • Zalf
      Pro
      • Jul 2004
      • 552

      #62
      Re: "game informer" tidbit from 2k sports forum.

      When the disc is maxed out it comes down to the most logical financial decision. Apparently it's cheaper to put the extra content on live for FREE download then to print and ship an extra disc with every copy. I am sure 2k did the math.

      They could have said "Oh well it won't fit so we just can't provide it at all." Then they would have had to cut it from the PS3 already because even though it would fit 360 users(and MS) would have a fit that PS3 users got more for their money.

      I have one 360 attached to the internet(mine) and one that isn't(my son's) so I will have to put some effort into getting everything on both. Making that effort is better than not having it all.

      I am thankful 2k is providing it and I hope they provide the game play we are all looking for.

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      • baa7
        Banned
        • Jul 2004
        • 11691

        #63
        Re: "game informer" tidbit from 2k sports forum.

        Originally posted by Zalf
        I am thankful 2k is providing it
        Bah! Too nice a reply. We don't do nice here. We thrive on hostility!

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        Last edited by baa7; 02-20-2008, 10:06 AM.

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        • bukktown
          MVP
          • Jan 2007
          • 3257

          #64
          Re: &quot;game informer&quot; tidbit from 2k sports forum.

          Originally posted by baa7
          Bah! Too nice a reply. We don't do nice here. We thrive on hostility!


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          How apropro. A bah from baa

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          • miamimarlins1
            Banned
            • May 2007
            • 490

            #65
            Re: &quot;game informer&quot; tidbit from 2k sports forum.

            Originally posted by El_MaYiMbE
            Very true...but at the sametime I wanted to communicate that it is unfair to ask a company who is working with limited disk space to spend MORE money because M$ chose to go with an older format....im all for M$ but thats the dumbest thing they did and 2K is working with what they got...and what they got is an excellent online service (XBL) that allows them to add things after shipping something...for FREE none the less....
            I agree. As much as I hate 2K sports b/c of the crappy games they put out, this one isn't there fault. The space on the disk was limited they did the best thing that could. Think of what they did last year w/ the PS3 game. It was inferior to the 360 game. At least this year they're trying to keep a level playing field for Xbox owners. This is probably the one time 2K actually thought about the customers

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            • Scooter3
              MVP
              • Nov 2005
              • 2680

              #66
              Re: &quot;game informer&quot; tidbit from 2k sports forum.

              Originally posted by baa7
              Complete would be including a second disk with the content on it... standard with PC games AND some console games that have come out.

              If 2K5 World Series Edition can offer a second disk filled with World Series Great Moments and still make a profit, there's no reason they can't offer the complete 2K8 game on two disks or include a phone number you can call to order ( no charge )the 2nd disk if you can't download the content...

              In the Army it's called "don't leave anyone behind"...

              Scooter...
              "a mean motor scooter and a bad go getter"

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              • KushGamer
                Rookie
                • Jul 2007
                • 322

                #67
                Re: &quot;game informer&quot; tidbit from 2k sports forum.

                Originally posted by Scooter3
                If 2K5 World Series Edition can offer a second disk filled with World Series Great Moments and still make a profit, there's no reason they can't offer the complete 2K8 game on two disks or include a phone number you can call to order ( no charge )the 2nd disk if you can't download the content...

                In the Army it's called "don't leave anyone behind"...

                Scooter...
                Who said World Series Edition made a profit? And that was a DVD filled with video content.

                These extra things (3 minor league stadiums and some alt uniforms) just BARELY didn't fit on the the disc. They are small, quick downloads. It would be sorta silly to make an entire 2nd dics for what probably adds up to about 100 MB - if that.

                90% of users won't miss this content at all. I wonder if they'll make it attainable through some other means, but I doubt it. It's not essential to the game. I understand being peeved about it if you dont have XBL, but you must know somewhere you can plug an ethernet cable into your system. Or someone with a 360 on Live where you can just swap in your HD for 10 minutes to DL it. And even if you don't, its not content you're likely to miss too much.

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                • baa7
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 11691

                  #68
                  Re: &quot;game informer&quot; tidbit from 2k sports forum.

                  Originally posted by Scooter3
                  ...include a phone number you can call to order ( no charge )the 2nd disk if you can't download the content
                  Exactamundo.

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                  • baa7
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 11691

                    #69
                    Re: &quot;game informer&quot; tidbit from 2k sports forum.

                    Originally posted by bukktown
                    How apropro. A bah from baa
                    I'm an Aries ram; I was born in the year of the sheep; my first, middle and last name initials are B.A.A.; and my last name with the second and third letters flipped means 'lamb' in Latin. Bah!

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                    • sask3m
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 2352

                      #70
                      Re: &quot;game informer&quot; tidbit from 2k sports forum.

                      does a person atually need xbox live gold to d/l this content or simply silver account which i believe is free.

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                      • KushGamer
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 322

                        #71
                        Re: &quot;game informer&quot; tidbit from 2k sports forum.

                        Originally posted by sask3m
                        does a person atually need xbox live gold to d/l this content or simply silver account which i believe is free.
                        Pretty sure just Silver.

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                        • CMH
                          Making you famous
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #72
                          Re: &quot;game informer&quot; tidbit from 2k sports forum.

                          Originally posted by baa7
                          Here's another example: You go into a computer store to buy a program - say, Norton. You flip the box over and read: Unfortunately, we could not fit all of Norton's Anti-virus content onto the one disk in this box. Upon purchase, please visit Norton.com to download the remainer of the program. And I'm not talking about upgrades, which are normal for many PC programs and video games.

                          Imagine how long a company would stay in business if they did that. And none of them do. And the word cheapskates comes to mind now for some reason...
                          I'm not even sure if I should comment because I feel like I'll just be labeled a 2k-follower.

                          I said it before that I understand where you're coming from but I still don't see the relation to Norton and this game.

                          Norton isn't going to have a file that takes up so much space that it wouldn't fit. It's likely a compressed file that will then need to be extracted onto your harddrive. We don't have that luxery with a console game.

                          I guess I'm trying to understand something.

                          Are you upset because they didn't fit the content in one disc or because they don't make the extra content available on a second disc?

                          At first, I thought you were upset that the content didn't fit in one disc and your comment about Norton seemed to confirm that for me. But now, your latest comments seem to indicate that you're upset that the extra data isn't available on a second disc. I'm trying to understand your point.

                          In my honest opinion, I find it silly (and I don't mean to be confrontational) to be upset that the content didn't fit in one disc. There's nothing a company can do to solve that issue. I wouldn't be upset because Warner Bros. couldn't fit the Special Features as well as the Feature Presentation into one disc for their hit movie. I understand that it just doesn't fit.

                          Actually, that might be a better analogy. Imagine buying a movie and being told that the special features - something that isn't necessary but perhaps a small population of people want (sorta like extra jerseys and retro stadiums) must be downloaded online. Yea, that would bother me. So, if that's the case then yea I get you.

                          Though, that doesn't mean I'm personally going to be upset about it. I also understand that if there's already a means to provide that content online where it costs the consumer AND the publisher nothing then they'll take that direction over providing content on a another costly disc.
                          Last edited by CMH; 02-20-2008, 01:16 PM. Reason: I said it would piss me off when it really would just bother me.
                          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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                          • El_MaYiMbE
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 1427

                            #73
                            Re: &quot;game informer&quot; tidbit from 2k sports forum.

                            Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                            I'm not even sure if I should comment because I feel like I'll just be labeled a 2k-follower.

                            I said it before that I understand where you're coming from but I still don't see the relation to Norton and this game.

                            Norton isn't going to have a file that takes up so much space that it wouldn't fit. It's likely a compressed file that will then need to be extracted onto your harddrive. We don't have that luxery with a console game.

                            I guess I'm trying to understand something.

                            Are you upset because they didn't fit the content in one disc or because they don't make the extra content available on a second disc?

                            At first, I thought you were upset that the content didn't fit in one disc and your comment about Norton seemed to confirm that for me. But now, your latest comments seem to indicate that you're upset that the extra data isn't available on a second disc. I'm trying to understand your point.

                            In my honest opinion, I find it silly (and I don't mean to be confrontational) to be upset that the content didn't fit in one disc. There's nothing a company can do to solve that issue. I wouldn't be upset because Warner Bros. couldn't fit the Special Features as well as the Feature Presentation into one disc for their hit movie. I understand that it just doesn't fit.

                            Actually, that might be a better analogy. Imagine buying a movie and being told that the special features - something that isn't necessary but perhaps a small population of people want (sorta like extra jerseys and retro stadiums) must be downloaded online. Yea, that would bother me. So, if that's the case then yea I get you.

                            Though, that doesn't mean I'm personally going to be upset about it. I also understand that if there's already a means to provide that content online where it costs the consumer AND the publisher nothing then they'll take that direction over providing content on a another costly disc.
                            Exactly!....best post of this yet....I understand y people r complaining....but because of financial reasons...and lack of interest across the board....it makes senst to just put it on XBL....plus im sure there is some high figure of people who own a 360 AND XBL (65%-75%....guessing here)....If what Kush said is right y would i burn 100 MB onto a DVD that holds 4 GB+ but still use as much money/effort as if i was fulling up the whole thing when I can offer it for free?....

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                            • El_MaYiMbE
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 1427

                              #74
                              Re: &quot;game informer&quot; tidbit from 2k sports forum.

                              In either case I just hope my GI magazine is home so I can read the article and view the pics....

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                              • baa7
                                Banned
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 11691

                                #75
                                Re: &quot;game informer&quot; tidbit from 2k sports forum.

                                Originally posted by YankeePride_YP
                                I wouldn't be upset because Warner Bros. couldn't fit the Special Features as well as the Feature Presentation into one disc for their hit movie. I understand that it just doesn't fit.
                                Which is why WB would include two disks in the case...

                                This has been addressed a few times, and not just by me. 2K, put out a disk and make it available to any who phones and requests a copy. If they can't do that much, then that's crazy.

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