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mattstl77

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02-25-2005, 10:25 AM

Re: Pared's MVP 2005 Gameplay Sliders

Pared, takes this like you would a grain of salt. I have not tried your sliders yet, but I have one question: It seems like everyone is having a hard time hitting the ball. Of course, they may be rushing the pitch count and swing at the 1st three pitches (Good morning, good afternoon, and good night! I hate that commentary...). I thought it may be more realistic to lower the CPU's contact and higher the human's contact...

Again, take this as a grain of salt.
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Stu

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#62

02-25-2005, 10:31 AM

Re: Pared's MVP 2005 Gameplay Sliders

One more note that I forgot to mention. Part of my problem was that I check my swing a lot. With the foul ball frequency so high I was either fouling them off or sending a dribbler right back to the pitcher. I probably check swinged into 3 outs. If I remember correctly you can turn down the check swing frequency so I may try that as well.

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Stu

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#63

02-25-2005, 10:31 AM

Re: Pared's MVP 2005 Gameplay Sliders

One more note that I forgot to mention. Part of my problem was that I check my swing a lot. With the foul ball frequency so high I was either fouling them off or sending a dribbler right back to the pitcher. I probably check swinged into 3 outs. If I remember correctly you can turn down the check swing frequency so I may try that as well.

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RahKhem

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#64

02-25-2005, 10:35 AM

Re: Pared's MVP 2005 Gameplay Sliders

Hey Pared, I'm noticing a LOT of balls by CPU pitchers now, I mean maybe more than I should be seeing. It may just be a minor league game, but right now the pitcher has thrown 66 pitches in 3 and 1/3, and has 5 walks. The game before, Jeremy Bonderman also through 5 walks.
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RahKhem

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02-25-2005, 10:35 AM

Re: Pared's MVP 2005 Gameplay Sliders

Hey Pared, I'm noticing a LOT of balls by CPU pitchers now, I mean maybe more than I should be seeing. It may just be a minor league game, but right now the pitcher has thrown 66 pitches in 3 and 1/3, and has 5 walks. The game before, Jeremy Bonderman also through 5 walks.
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#66

02-25-2005, 10:50 AM

Re: Pared's MVP 2005 Gameplay Sliders

really soild slidres Pared, they are working great, The only thing is I was playing qith our Mets against the Yankees and I got hammered 12-1, even though I got my @$$ whooped, I enjoyed the get a lot. I really think this game is great, and I sad to see it will be it's last effort this year.

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RoyalBoyle78

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#67

02-25-2005, 10:50 AM

Re: Pared's MVP 2005 Gameplay Sliders

really soild slidres Pared, they are working great, The only thing is I was playing qith our Mets against the Yankees and I got hammered 12-1, even though I got my @$$ whooped, I enjoyed the get a lot. I really think this game is great, and I sad to see it will be it's last effort this year.

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Jecht25

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#68

02-25-2005, 10:51 AM

Re: Pared's MVP 2005 Gameplay Sliders

Originally posted by wawasman

Pared makes kool-aid?

Does he?!? Sweet! lol
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#69

02-25-2005, 10:51 AM

Re: Pared's MVP 2005 Gameplay Sliders

Originally posted by wawasman

Pared makes kool-aid?

Does he?!? Sweet! lol
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nemesis04

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#70

02-25-2005, 10:59 AM

Re: Pared's MVP 2005 Gameplay Sliders

Originally posted by FootballForever

really soild slidres Pared, they are working great, The only thing is I was playing qith our Mets against the Yankees and I got hammered 12-1, even though I got my @$$ whooped, I enjoyed the get a lot. I really think this game is great, and I sad to see it will be it's last effort this year.

From the score it sounds like the game is playing just fine!!

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nemesis04

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#71

02-25-2005, 10:59 AM

Re: Pared's MVP 2005 Gameplay Sliders

Originally posted by FootballForever

really soild slidres Pared, they are working great, The only thing is I was playing qith our Mets against the Yankees and I got hammered 12-1, even though I got my @$$ whooped, I enjoyed the get a lot. I really think this game is great, and I sad to see it will be it's last effort this year.

From the score it sounds like the game is playing just fine!!

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Pared

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#72

02-25-2005, 10:59 AM

Re: Pared's MVP 2005 Gameplay Sliders

Originally posted by mattstl77

Pared, takes this like you would a grain of salt. I have not tried your sliders yet, but I have one question: It seems like everyone is having a hard time hitting the ball. Of course, they may be rushing the pitch count and swing at the 1st three pitches (Good morning, good afternoon, and good night! I hate that commentary...). I thought it may be more realistic to lower the CPU's contact and higher the human's contact...

Again, take this as a grain of salt.

That doesn't work (for the CPU), but I know what you're trying to accomplish. The problem is the contact slider only measures levels of contact, from what I've seen, and not whether a batter swings and misses...

As for Human contact, I'm not seeing any problems with hitting, aside maybe for power, ever so slightly... I can get anywhere from 6-13 hits a game, and right now don't see anyone else having that problem. But I'll look more into it... My main goal with this first set was to take care of standout issues, and Pitch counts and some player movement were #'s 1 and 2 on the list....


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Pared

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#73

02-25-2005, 10:59 AM

Re: Pared's MVP 2005 Gameplay Sliders

Originally posted by mattstl77

Pared, takes this like you would a grain of salt. I have not tried your sliders yet, but I have one question: It seems like everyone is having a hard time hitting the ball. Of course, they may be rushing the pitch count and swing at the 1st three pitches (Good morning, good afternoon, and good night! I hate that commentary...). I thought it may be more realistic to lower the CPU's contact and higher the human's contact...

Again, take this as a grain of salt.

That doesn't work (for the CPU), but I know what you're trying to accomplish. The problem is the contact slider only measures levels of contact, from what I've seen, and not whether a batter swings and misses...

As for Human contact, I'm not seeing any problems with hitting, aside maybe for power, ever so slightly... I can get anywhere from 6-13 hits a game, and right now don't see anyone else having that problem. But I'll look more into it... My main goal with this first set was to take care of standout issues, and Pitch counts and some player movement were #'s 1 and 2 on the list....


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SCHNCH

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#74

02-25-2005, 11:02 AM

Re: Pared's MVP 2005 Gameplay Sliders

Originally posted by Millennium

Just a quick thought on your impression: If Ben Sheets only had 71 pitches in 7.2 IP, you need to lay off a lot more and work the count. Same goes with your pitching. You need to work the count more by throwing some more balls. Your pitch counts would have been OK if were a 2-3 hit per team game by the time both pitchers left.

Think of it like this. Sheets looks like he faced 30 batters. 71 / 30 = 2.36 pitchers per at bat. That is very low. Same with Schilling. 29 batters faced, 66 pitches, pitches per at bat: 2.28. Both numbers should be above 3.5 (Boston led the league last year with somewhere around 4.5 pitches seen per at bat).

Patience, young Skywalker.

Sheets actually faced 37 batters (7.2 IP=30 outs + 6 hits + 1 walk)! This comes to 1.92 pitches per AB. That said, patience is the key. If it would have been between 3.5 and 4.5 AB's, this would have raised the pitch count to between 129 and 166!
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#75

02-25-2005, 11:02 AM

Re: Pared's MVP 2005 Gameplay Sliders

Originally posted by Millennium

Just a quick thought on your impression: If Ben Sheets only had 71 pitches in 7.2 IP, you need to lay off a lot more and work the count. Same goes with your pitching. You need to work the count more by throwing some more balls. Your pitch counts would have been OK if were a 2-3 hit per team game by the time both pitchers left.

Think of it like this. Sheets looks like he faced 30 batters. 71 / 30 = 2.36 pitchers per at bat. That is very low. Same with Schilling. 29 batters faced, 66 pitches, pitches per at bat: 2.28. Both numbers should be above 3.5 (Boston led the league last year with somewhere around 4.5 pitches seen per at bat).

Patience, young Skywalker.

Sheets actually faced 37 batters (7.2 IP=30 outs + 6 hits + 1 walk)! This comes to 1.92 pitches per AB. That said, patience is the key. If it would have been between 3.5 and 4.5 AB's, this would have raised the pitch count to between 129 and 166!
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