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  • BGarrett7
    All Star
    • Jul 2003
    • 5890

    #76
    Re: Soriano Refuses To Play Outfield

    Originally posted by cbgatorade0202
    Played 2B his whole career and all of sudden he's gotta change, Who would like that?
    If memory serves me correctly, he moved to 2B in 2001. Hardly his "whole career."

    You want sudden change? Let's take a look at a certain fellow named Larry...

    Drafted #1 in the nation as a SS in 1990, plays there thru the minors
    Moved to LF spring of '04, blows out knee, misses entire season
    Moved to 3B spring of '05, after recovering from knee injury
    Moved back to SS summer of '06, after trade for TP
    Moved back to 3B spring '07
    Moved back to LF spring of '02, in order to fill team's OF void
    Moved back to 3B spring of '04, after numerous injuries

    Funny, I don't seem to recall even the slightest bit of bitching or complaining from him during all these positional changes.

    Yet, Soriano is afraid of losing money and embarassing himself? Get over yourself, you big baby.

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    • jake44np
      Post Like a Champion!
      • Jul 2002
      • 9563

      #77
      Re: Soriano Refuses To Play Outfield

      Apparently he is OK with playing LF now, he played there today.
      Here is the line

      http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9328458
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      • dieselboy
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        • Dec 2002
        • 18040

        #78
        Re: Soriano Refuses To Play Outfield

        Originally posted by BGarrett7
        But there is hope... I stole the Emanski video joke from Dan Patrick today. So, technically, it's not actually my miss.
        Hahaha

        Originally posted by jake44np
        Apparently he is OK with playing LF now, he played there today.
        Here is the line

        http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9328458
        You knew he was gonna crack. Hopefully he tears it up in the outfield.

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        • cbgatorade0202
          Why Not?
          • Dec 2004
          • 4041

          #79
          Re: Soriano Refuses To Play Outfield

          Originally posted by BGarrett7
          If memory serves me correctly, he moved to 2B in 2001. Hardly his "whole career."

          You want sudden change? Let's take a look at a certain fellow named Larry...

          Drafted #1 in the nation as a SS in 1990, plays there thru the minors
          Moved to LF spring of '04, blows out knee, misses entire season
          Moved to 3B spring of '05, after recovering from knee injury
          Moved back to SS summer of '06, after trade for TP
          Moved back to 3B spring '07
          Moved back to LF spring of '02, in order to fill team's OF void
          Moved back to 3B spring of '04, after numerous injuries

          Funny, I don't seem to recall even the slightest bit of bitching or complaining from him during all these positional changes.

          Yet, Soriano is afraid of losing money and embarassing himself? Get over yourself, you big baby.

          True, Some players and people will allow it and do whatever is needed of them...I dont completely like that he didnt go out and play left field a few days ago but to say he's afraid to lose money ..and get over urself...If you were offered a job with a decent Risk of you losing a lot of money b/cu wont be as valuable there...would u wanna switch?
          Let's Get Ready To Rumble!

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          • ehh
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 28962

            #80
            Re: Soriano Refuses To Play Outfield

            Why is this such a big deal anyways?


            Who the hell cares? On ESPN this morning they were dubbing this "the HUGE story of the day"...."Will Soriano play LF?"
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            • DGetz
              Pro
              • Mar 2004
              • 636

              #81
              Re: Soriano Refuses To Play Outfield

              Originally posted by cbgatorade0202
              True, Some players and people will allow it and do whatever is needed of them...I dont completely like that he didnt go out and play left field a few days ago but to say he's afraid to lose money ..and get over urself...If you were offered a job with a decent Risk of you losing a lot of money b/cu wont be as valuable there...would u wanna switch?

              The issue isnt Soriano's desire to play second base, it was that he refused to take the field as an outfielder. And yes a lot of people would be averse to something which COULD cost them money (there's no garuntee Soriano will make anything less as a free agent under these circumstances), but at the same time Soriano is contractually obligated to play.
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              • BGarrett7
                All Star
                • Jul 2003
                • 5890

                #82
                Re: Soriano Refuses To Play Outfield

                Originally posted by cbgatorade0202
                If you were offered a job with a decent Risk of you losing a lot of money b/cu wont be as valuable there...would u wanna switch?
                Personally, I don't consider a drop from $10M to around $8M or whatever his new market level would come to, to be "losing a lot of money." Hell, in this day and age where Furcal and Damon are garnering $13 per, Soriano would probably at least get one more contract along those lines before he saw any considerable dropoff because of moving to LF.

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                • cbgatorade0202
                  Why Not?
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 4041

                  #83
                  Re: Soriano Refuses To Play Outfield

                  Originally posted by BGarrett7
                  Personally, I don't consider a drop from $10M to around $8M or whatever his new market level would come to, to be "losing a lot of money." Hell, in this day and age where Furcal and Damon are garnering $13 per, Soriano would probably at least get one more contract along those lines before he saw any considerable dropoff because of moving to LF.

                  You dont consider dropping from 10 mil to 8 million losing money??? haha, That is losing a lot of money...2 million now is not a lot of money?

                  I think i came out on this wrong, I think what Soriano did not going on the field was pretty pathetic and wrong of him, and not wanting to play it and make it such a big deal is also another bad thing. I just believe he can get pretty upset about having to move positions and risk a chance of losing any type of money....I hope Soriano does fine, But i hope the Nationals Blow so it gives the Braves them and the Marlins to get easy wins on all season
                  Let's Get Ready To Rumble!

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                  • cbgatorade0202
                    Why Not?
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 4041

                    #84
                    Re: Soriano Refuses To Play Outfield

                    Originally posted by DGetz
                    The issue isnt Soriano's desire to play second base, it was that he refused to take the field as an outfielder. And yes a lot of people would be averse to something which COULD cost them money (there's no garuntee Soriano will make anything less as a free agent under these circumstances), but at the same time Soriano is contractually obligated to play.

                    Agree man , thatz the way i meant to come out when i spoke but i think i kinda screwed that up..He screwed up for sure, I just dont think itz a big deal that he complained about it, but not going on the field was pathetic
                    Let's Get Ready To Rumble!

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                    • BGarrett7
                      All Star
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 5890

                      #85
                      Re: Soriano Refuses To Play Outfield

                      Originally posted by cbgatorade0202
                      You dont consider dropping from 10 mil to 8 million losing money??? haha, That is losing a lot of money...2 million now is not a lot of money?
                      When you are making $10M a year as an athlete, dropping down to $8M should not be a significant loss. Again, to take it back to Chipper, he voluntarily took a $6M paycut this year to help the Braves free up some money to spend on FAs. I'm fairly certain Soriano could get by on a mere $8M a year.

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                      • deeman11747
                        G-M*nnnn
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 3194

                        #86
                        Re: Soriano Refuses To Play Outfield

                        Originally posted by NYJets
                        I strongly dislike Sheffield and Giambi and I hated Kevin Brown.
                        I dont particularly like Sheffield and I absolutely despised Brown. When they would interview him he would just seem like he was pitching for a paycheck and didnt give a crap about the other 24 guyrs. Then again... he was on the DL so much I dont even know if he learned their names.


                        Giambi I do like though. Yes he used steroids and I lost a ton of respect for him but all the sportswriters think he is one of the nicestguys in baseball and he sounds very genuine in his interviews. I gained respect for him how he came back to true form without the steroids though (which you could argue that it shouldntve even happened in the first place but thats another arguement.)




                        Anyways back on topic.... good to see Soriano wised up and played LF today and hopefully all of this can be put to sleep for the rest of the year.

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                        • Jordanfan23
                          Sports Game Junkie!!!
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 1468

                          #87
                          Re: Soriano Refuses To Play Outfield

                          If you can't switch positions for your team, do you really care about anything else team related? Wins, losses, anything? They have Vidro, who is 10X the 2nd baseman Soriano will ever be. If I was the GM, I would tell him to get his sorry arse to left field, or go pack his bags. I love how pro athletes think they dictate everything related to them now. Soriano is a selfish, stat driven, good for a DH, error machine. 40 homeruns, and 150 strikeouts a year. If he was that damn good, the Yanks would have kept him.

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                          • rsox
                            All Star
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 6309

                            #88
                            Re: Soriano Refuses To Play Outfield

                            Originally posted by hulkster29
                            i also heard a mention that they might actually shift him to SS to replace Guzman (heard that on ESPN radio yesterday), but who knows..
                            Unlikely. If Guzman needs to have shoulder surgery and miss a significant amount of time the Nationals will hand the SS job over to yet another superior middle Infielder over Soriano---Royce Clayton.

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                            • cbgatorade0202
                              Why Not?
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 4041

                              #89
                              Re: Soriano Refuses To Play Outfield

                              Originally posted by BGarrett7
                              When you are making $10M a year as an athlete, dropping down to $8M should not be a significant loss. Again, to take it back to Chipper, he voluntarily took a $6M paycut this year to help the Braves free up some money to spend on FAs. I'm fairly certain Soriano could get by on a mere $8M a year.

                              Well itz still a loss man, No matter how u look at it..Also Chipper may of took a paycut but i Promise some way or another he gets every dime he was promised when he signed that contract..and im happy he did it b/c im a Braves fan
                              Let's Get Ready To Rumble!

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                              • dieselboy
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                                • Dec 2002
                                • 18040

                                #90
                                Re: Soriano Refuses To Play Outfield

                                Originally posted by BGarrett7
                                When you are making $10M a year as an athlete, dropping down to $8M should not be a significant loss. Again, to take it back to Chipper, he voluntarily took a $6M paycut this year to help the Braves free up some money to spend on FAs. I'm fairly certain Soriano could get by on a mere $8M a year.
                                Completely wrong.

                                Lets say at your job, you have been getting paid $50,000 per year, and have been spending money at a good rate according to your pay. Then, your employer says that you are going to get paid $40,000 per year for the same job. You would be pissed.

                                And the Chipper comparison is a joke. He has been a Brave for how long? And how long have they been paying him? There is loyalty there. Soriano has been a National for a few months.

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