To all Mets Haters................

[Thrasha]

Re: To all Mets Haters................

It's probably a strech but the Mets wouldn't be on cruise control right now with the Jays in their division. And looking at the two teams on paper their pitching is very similar as well as their lineup.

Not really. The Blue Jays have a true ace.

[Spectre]

Re: To all Mets Haters................

Not really. The Blue Jays have a true ace.

Keep ripping Pedro all you want. I'm sure the Red Sox would love his numbers right now Then again, I guess having the best WHIP and the best opposition batting average in baseball is signs of a non-ace anyway. People would still complain.

Pedro- 9-4, 0.99 WHIP, .198 OPP BA

Roy- 14-3, 1.12 WHIP, .260 OPP BA

The only big difference is wins and losses. Halladay is great, Pedro is great. Say what you want about the NL being a weaker league but the NL East is loaded with teams with offensive talent (Braves, Phillies, Marlins are no slouches).

"Pedro ain't going to no Mets"

[SPTO]

Re: To all Mets Haters................

Pedro isn't what he once was but he's still a darn good pitcher. I've also enjoyed watching Glavine pitch this year. Yeah I know he's up there in age now but he's a very crafty pitcher who uses smarts to get by the opposing teams.

I think it's actually more fun to watch a pitcher use his repetoire and win with guile more then just blowing guys away with a heater or whatnot.

[Spectre]

Re: To all Mets Haters................

Pedro isn't what he once was but he's still a darn good pitcher. I've also enjoyed watching Glavine pitch this year. Yeah I know he's up there in age now but he's a very crafty pitcher who uses smarts to get by the opposing teams.

I think it's actually more fun to watch a pitcher use his repetoire and win with guile more then just blowing guys away with a heater or whatnot.

I think everybody will concede that he's not as good as he used to be. He used to be the best pitcher I've ever seen in my life. Now, he's just a great pitcher.

Halladay is one of my favorite pitchers- he's always one of my first picks in ALL of my fantasy leagues

Glavine, I'm not sure of. He had a great first half but hasn't showed much since then. His last two starts have been much better.

[dkgojackets]

Re: To all Mets Haters................

Not really. The Blue Jays have a true ace.

Now thats just ignorance speaking.

[Jistic]

Re: To all Mets Haters................

Last year the Bears players bitched about not getting respect too. THen Carolina came to town......
The Mets SHOULD be good. My god look at their payroll and the moves they've made.

But at the end of the day, the ALCS is the World Series this year. Whoever makes it out of the NL is nothing more than a sacrificial lamb for the AL teams coronation.

[nyisles16]

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not to "stir the pot" or the like, but if Toronto is as good as people say, why am I hearing talk of Wells being dealt in the offseason? I heard a rumor that Texas would be a place he would wind up in... just weird

[BGarrett7]

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not to "stir the pot" or the like, but if Toronto is as good as people say, why am I hearing talk of Wells being dealt in the offseason?

Because the amount of money he is expected to draw after the '07 season is going to be more than the Jays are able to spend for a big name free agent.

[nyisles16]

Re: To all Mets Haters................

Because the amount of money he is expected to draw after the '07 season is going to be more than the Jays are able to spend for a big name free agent.

ah.. thanks...

[Thrasha]

Re: To all Mets Haters................

Keep ripping Pedro all you want. I'm sure the Red Sox would love his numbers right now Then again, I guess having the best WHIP and the best opposition batting average in baseball is signs of a non-ace anyway. People would still complain.

Pedro- 9-4, 0.99 WHIP, .198 OPP BA

Roy- 14-3, 1.12 WHIP, .260 OPP BA

The only big difference is wins and losses. Halladay is great, Pedro is great. Say what you want about the NL being a weaker league but the NL East is loaded with teams with offensive talent (Braves, Phillies, Marlins are no slouches).

"Pedro ain't going to no Mets"

The NL East's best offensive team still doesn't outscore the Yankees, Red Sox, or Blue Jays.

[Knight165]

Re: To all Mets Haters................

But at the end of the day, the ALCS is the World Series this year. Whoever makes it out of the NL is nothing more than a sacrificial lamb for the AL teams coronation.

LOVE IT...when people say crap like this. Makes it that much sweeter when it doesn't happen.
I'm still getting happier and happier as the Mets bury the Braves deeper and deeper in the division. Braves fans were posting the old laughing emoticons at the mention of the Mets winning the division. Then they said the Mets would succumb to the pressure 1/3 into the season. That's working out well for them isn't it? Time to start reviving some of the older posts about the impending doom of the Mets and getting in a few good chuckles

M.K.
Knight165

[Spectre]

Re: To all Mets Haters................

The NL East's best offensive team still doesn't outscore the Yankees, Red Sox, or Blue Jays.

DH

It'd be nice to have a David Ortiz/Jason Giambi/ in the NL East lineups instead of Steve Trachsel!

Mets have driven in 587 runs this year- the Yankees have 602 and the Red Sox have 608.

Even the most pathetic DH would easily drive in 15 (or 21) runs to make up that gap. It'd be foolish to write off the NL East offenses because of a paltry run difference like that.

[RoyalBoyle78]

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DH

It'd be nice to have a David Ortiz/Jason Giambi/ in the NL East lineups instead of Steve Trachsel!

Mets have driven in 587 runs this year- the Yankees have 602 and the Red Sox have 608.

Even the most pathetic DH would easily drive in 15 (or 21) runs to make up that gap. It'd be foolish to write off the NL East offenses because of a paltry run difference like that.

thank you

[nyisles16]

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thank you

& Delgado ain't doing it right now... second & third one out, he squibs back to the pitcher...

[Jistic]

Re: To all Mets Haters................

LOVE IT...when people say crap like this. Makes it that much sweeter when it doesn't happen.
I'm still getting happier and happier as the Mets bury the Braves deeper and deeper in the division. Braves fans were posting the old laughing emoticons at the mention of the Mets winning the division. Then they said the Mets would succumb to the pressure 1/3 into the season. That's working out well for them isn't it? Time to start reviving some of the older posts about the impending doom of the Mets and getting in a few good chuckles

M.K.
Knight165

The three NL divison leaders were 6-9, 5-10, and 5-10 against the AL this year. The Braves and the AL elite are two totally different leagues. Again I hope the NL pennant is enough cuz that's the best your gonna get.