Hank Aaron won't witness Bonds break the record

[Spectre]

Re: Hank Aaron won't witness Bonds break the record

But he wouldn't have become THE GREATEST home run hitter of all time without steroids. He was a great, great player before all of this, but he wasn't going to be mentioned along with Babe Ruth, Ted Williams, etc. as one of the greatest hitters to have ever lived.

And Blzer, while I don't agree with you're point of view on steroids, at least I understand where you're coming from now.

Exactly- Barry Bonds is a fantastic hitter but, without a plethora of steroids, would likely not have been able to maintain this type of production into his 40s. He'd be a notch below the Ted Williams/Joe D's of the world but still a sure-fire Hall of Famer in my book.

Julio Franco has the workout regiment of a 20 year old and his swing has been slow as heck for the last 10 years! He pulls a ball once in a blue moon.

[Brandon13]

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I think my main point was that steroids are a non-issue to me in this day and age. I have no proof, but I am led to believe that half of the league is doing something illegal anyway in attempt to give them an advantage... why is Bonds any more important? He is not, and he should not be any more targeted than anybody else. The record is at stake, big deal. Live with it. Records are meant to be broken.

I do agree with that and I wish the Hall of Fame voters realize that they've most likely put other steroid users in the Hall of Fame so Bonds, or for that matter anybody from this generation who deserves it, should go in the Hall.

[Scottdau]

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More and more, I'm realizing I don't care about the continuing witchhunt by MLB (and the feds) against Barroid. Regardless of what they manage to find (or not find due to people like Greg Anderson being willing to rot in jail rather than share what they know), the man has been convicted in the court of public opinion as a cheat and a fraud.

Baseball, as a sport, has been looked after throughout its history by its fans and by those who cover the game. Both of whom, by and large, now regard Barroid as a cheater. That's good enough for me.

Funny, so he is guilty beacuse of the public wow that is scary, but OK. lol

[jim416]

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Why did his cap size grow from 7 1/8 to 7 1/4? Skull growth is driven by brain growth and I seriously doubt his brain grew in the 30s.

Why did his cleat size go from 10.5 to 13.5?

I guess I can finally use some of the medical knowledge I've been gathering- in adulthood, excessive HGH results in new periosteal bone growth and growth of hands and feet. You can't make this stuff up.

Steroids are IMHO the main reason Barry has been able to maintain his production as he enters his 40s.

Excellent. That IS one big skull he has there.

Baseball, as a sport, has been looked after throughout its history by its fans and by those who cover the game. Both of whom, by and large, now regard Barroid as a cheater. That's good enough for me.

Agreed. Works for me. And I don't excuse one man's bad behavior by pointing out another man's bad behavior.

[Brandon13]

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If Bonds was on pace to hit over 500 and maybe 600 HRs he would be consider in that group! And that is the pace he was on. So nice try lol Plus with all the SB's he would have and gold gloves he would have had too if his was thin, wow there is a 5 tool player.

I'm saying HITTER not player. There is a difference.

[Blzer]

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Excellent. That IS one big skull he has there.

Actually, I tend to consider his skull small. I mean, I understand that that is a large growth, but I wear a 7 3/8 cap. I'm next to a shaved head right now, and that cap fits firm on me. It just seems strange that mine is bigger than his and people say his head is the size of a bowling ball.

[Skerik]

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Funny, so he is guilty beacuse of the public wow that is scary, but OK. lol

Guilty because of the public? No, he's guilty because he took steroids.

[Skerik]

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Actually, I tend to consider his skull small. I mean, I understand that that is a large growth, but I wear a 7 3/8 cap. I'm next to a shaved head right now, and that cap fits firm on me. It just seems strange that mine is bigger than his and people say his head is the size of a bowling ball.

Ah, it all makes sense now. Most people's bodies stop growing once they're into their 20s. But Barroid's head was always abnormally small, so his body compensated for this, at age 40, by puffing up his head to normal size.

The explanation is so simple, I almost feel stupid....

[Blzer]

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Still haven't read the article, but I'm guessing they didn't answer this question anyway: Is Aaron not attending the event because he doesn't want his record passed, or because he "doesn't want his record passed by a steroid user and abuser"? I mean, is it implicitly known to the public that Aaron suspects Bonds of steroids?

[Brandon13]

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Ah, it all makes sense now. Most people's bodies stop growing once they're into their 20s. But Barroid's head was always abnormally small, so his body compensated for this, at age 40, by puffing up his head to normal size.

The explanation is so simple, I almost feel stupid....

[daflyboys]

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Dang Blzer, can't you make your statement smaller. I am sure you have some great things to say, but I don't have time to read your book! lol Just get to the point with out all the words!

Basically he's saying he's okay with cheaters.

[Scottdau]

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Exactly- Barry Bonds is a fantastic hitter but, without a plethora of steroids, would likely not have been able to maintain this type of production into his 40s. He'd be a notch below the Ted Williams/Joe D's of the world but still a sure-fire Hall of Famer in my book.

Julio Franco has the workout regiment of a 20 year old and his swing has been slow as heck for the last 10 years! He pulls a ball once in a blue moon.

I disagree with that Bonds was built like his daddy Strong and lean, so I he might have been able to play and played good! Steroids don't make you play longer it make you stronger. Wow play longer take steroid. lol The steroids I know cause you to have more injuries, not keep you from them. Maybe this is the new almighty steroids!

[Scottdau]

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Guilty because of the public? No, he's guilty because he took steroids.

And you stay if it was good for the public it was good for you. Did you not?

[Brandon13]

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Still haven't read the article, but I'm guessing they didn't answer this question anyway: Is Aaron not attending the event because he doesn't want his record passed, or because he "doesn't want his record passed by a steroid user and abuser"? I mean, is it implicitly known to the public that Aaron suspects Bonds of steroids?

He says it's because he doesn't want to be hassled with all the questions that will come with him attending the games.

[Scottdau]

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Basically he's saying he's okay with cheaters.

I say cheating is bad, but still a lot of players did it, so to go after Bonds is wrong, but if he wasn't breaking a record then it would be OK? lol