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  • Chip Douglass
    Hall Of Fame
    • Dec 2005
    • 12256
    #31
    Re: HoF ballot released...

    Some of the names on this list are hilarious.

    Ron Gant? Seriously?
    I write things on the Internet.

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      • Stroehms
        MVP
        • Jan 2008
        • 2640
        #32
        Re: HoF ballot released...

        Originally posted by Olson-for-Heisman
        Some of the names on this list are hilarious.

        Ron Gant? Seriously?
        lol. He was decent.

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          • Taur3asi3
            MVP
            • Mar 2003
            • 3727
            #33
            Re: HoF ballot released...

            Of everyone on the list, the person you take most offense to is Ron Gant? Not Plesac, Orosco, Greg Vaughn, or Jay bell?
            As Shaquille O'Neal left the Suns practice court, he yelled out, "Alvin's the coach. We must be the Clippers. And I must be Olowokandi. Nooooo!"

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              • Stroehms
                MVP
                • Jan 2008
                • 2640
                #34
                Re: HoF ballot released...

                Originally posted by Taur3asi3
                Of everyone on the list, the person you take most offense to is Ron Gant? Not Plesac, Orosco, Greg Vaughn, or Jay bell?
                Didn't Vaughn hit like 54 homeruns in '98? Just wondering...

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                  • Sportsforever
                    NL MVP
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 20368
                    #35
                    Re: HoF ballot released...

                    Originally posted by stroehmerbasebal
                    Didn't Vaughn hit like 54 homeruns in '98? Just wondering...
                    He hit 50 that year when the Pads went to the series. He has 355 career homers to go with a .242 average and twice as many K's as BB's. He was also no glove man...he was a good major league player, but no where near a HOF'er.
                    "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                      • SPTO
                        binging
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 68046
                        #36
                        Re: HoF ballot released...

                        The guys you are laughing at are only nominated as they retired 5 years ago. It's not like every name is seriously considered for the HOF.

                        BTW I always liked Plesac. The guy was a great team player and was a good spokesman for the Jays when he was here.
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                          • Scottdau
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 32580
                            #37
                            Re: HoF ballot released...

                            Originally posted by stroehmerbasebal
                            Greatest player not in HOF: Roger Maris
                            What did he do that was so great? Yes he broke the record, but baseball hall is the hardest hall to get into. You need to do more than that!

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                              • throwmonkey
                                Sideshow Bob!
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 750
                                #38
                                Re: HoF ballot released...

                                Rickey and Rock would be my ballot.

                                He's definitely not a Hall of Famer but I love how Orosco worked a few more years onto his career by being the Barry Bonds specialist for the Dodgers.

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                                  • rsox
                                    All Star
                                    • Feb 2003
                                    • 6309
                                    #39
                                    Re: HoF ballot released...

                                    Ron Gant was a pretty good player from 1990-1996. After that he started to get injured a lot more and was basically an average ball player. He did finish with 321 Home Runs.

                                    Greg Vaughn was, as Sportsforever basically stated, nothing more than a DH with a glove. You look at Vaughn's numbers from '96-'99 and you have to wonder if maybe he had a little "help".

                                    Jay Bell was always a solid glove man and was pretty consistant at the plate during his days with the Pirates.

                                    Jesse Orosco seemed like he would play forever, and he practically did. Orosco is the all time leader in games pitched and interestingly in 24 seasons Orosco changed teams during the same season only twice--and that happend when he played for 3 teams in his final season in 2003.

                                    Dan Plesac was a serviceable lefty out of the 'pen, but nothing special.

                                    None of these players are likely to ever get in the HoF without buying a ticket. But for each of them it must be at least an honor to have their names on the ballott.

                                    I'm surprised no one has mentioned Mo Vaughn yet. Big Mo likely does not make it either based on the numbers he finished with. But i wonder if he had not shredded the tendons in his knee, at age 40 would he still be playing?.

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                                      • Sportsforever
                                        NL MVP
                                        • Mar 2005
                                        • 20368
                                        #40
                                        Re: HoF ballot released...

                                        Originally posted by Scottdau
                                        What did he do that was so great? Yes he broke the record, but baseball hall is the hardest hall to get into. You need to do more than that!
                                        Not that I think he should be in, but you do realize that Roger was a two time MVP (1960/1961). In fact, I think he might be the only two time MVP not in the HOF.
                                        "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                                          • Scottdau
                                            Banned
                                            • Feb 2003
                                            • 32580
                                            #41
                                            Re: HoF ballot released...

                                            Originally posted by Sportsforever
                                            Not that I think he should be in, but you do realize that Roger was a two time MVP (1960/1961). In fact, I think he might be the only two time MVP not in the HOF.
                                            While that is important, the Hall looks at overall numbers.

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                                              • CMH
                                                Making you famous
                                                • Oct 2002
                                                • 26203
                                                #42
                                                Re: HoF ballot released...

                                                Yea, and Marty Cordova was Rookie of the Year.

                                                Awards only mean you were the voted best for that given season.
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                                                  • Sportsforever
                                                    NL MVP
                                                    • Mar 2005
                                                    • 20368
                                                    #43
                                                    Re: HoF ballot released...

                                                    Originally posted by Scottdau
                                                    While that is important, the Hall looks at overall numbers.
                                                    I agree and I don't feel he should be in. Your post seemed to imply he was a scrub or something who had a fluke year. He was a solid major leaguer from 1958-1964.

                                                    I'm surprised he hasn't gotten in through the vets committee...they have always put non-deserving players in.
                                                    "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby

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                                                      • SportsTop
                                                        The Few. The Proud.
                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                        • 6716
                                                        #44
                                                        Re: HoF ballot released...

                                                        Lock:

                                                        Rickey Henderson

                                                        Borderline:

                                                        Jim Rice
                                                        Bert Blyleven
                                                        Andre Dawson
                                                        Tim Raines

                                                        Outside looking in:

                                                        Mark McGwire
                                                        Jack Morris
                                                        Dale Murphy
                                                        Harold Baines

                                                        Henderson gets in (of course) and I think two of the three in the "borderline" group gets in.
                                                        Last edited by SportsTop; 12-02-2008, 01:05 PM.
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                                                          • JBH3
                                                            Marvel's Finest
                                                            • Jan 2007
                                                            • 13506
                                                            #45
                                                            Re: HoF ballot released...

                                                            Pete Rose.
                                                            Originally posted by Edmund Burke
                                                            All that is needed for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.

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