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  • Kashanova
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2003
    • 12695

    #136
    Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

    and to end this i say why stop here sign manny too.

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    • NYJets
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jul 2002
      • 18637

      #137
      Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

      Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
      Yep.

      Doing baseball better is fielding a playoff/ws team and not overpaying to do so.

      They only go through one year with their young talent pitching, and they gave up on them to overpay free-agents. I guess they do baseball better. Even though it takes more than one year for your young talent to click. Now they will have young wasted talent, with no game time to develop (scratch that Burnett with be in the IR).

      They look more like the little rich kid who was so spoiled, they threw a temper tantrum and went on a spending spree, when they didnt get what they wanted the year before. Instead of developing what "awesome young talent" I heard being talked about on here last year at this time.
      How did they give up on their young talent?

      They didn't trade any prospects this offseason. Joba's in the rotation. As of right now, the 5th starter is going to be Hughes, Kennedy, or another minor league pitcher. They might still bring Pettitte back, and he'll take that spot, but that's only a one year deal.

      The only position player prospect that they think might be ready any time soon is Austin Jackson in centerfield, and he's still obviously in the plans. There's no young first baseman waiting in the wings right now.
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      • Knight165
        *ll St*r
        • Feb 2003
        • 24964

        #138
        Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

        Originally posted by Blzer
        I just want to see the Yankees fall flat on their face, so the commish can keep letting it happen and we can laugh at New York, showing them that they can't even buy a championship (or playoff berth haha).
        Guys...I'm no Yankee fan.
        But anyone making statements like this NOW...has just taken themselves out of the "The Yankees didn't earn this Championship, they bought it" conversation if the Yankees take it all.
        Can't play it both ways.....:wink:
        This is crazy though. Wow....what a payroll. Guess they didn't really need that tax break did they Bloomy?

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        • jpup
          MVP
          • Feb 2003
          • 4571

          #139
          Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

          Originally posted by snepp
          It's not how much you spend, but how you spend it? Talk about deep-sixing your own argument. They've done a terrible job of allocating their resources.
          26 World Championships. I dont have to make an argument. There many different ways to get it done. I am not sure why everyone cares how much they spend since most of you say that they are a bunch of choke artists. Sour grapes.
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          • Lintyfresh85
            Where have I been?
            • Jul 2002
            • 17492

            #140
            Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

            Hughes and Kennedy are pumped up prospects that were deemed 'prospects' only because they pitch for the Yankees.

            I doubt either will ever have that much success in the MLB.
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            • bkrich83
              Has Been
              • Jul 2002
              • 71582

              #141
              Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

              Originally posted by jpup
              You are not making sense. They have 26 World Championships. No one else is even close. It's not how much you spend, but how you spend it. I would call making the playoffs a successful season.

              What about the Mets? They are in the same market. The reason the Yankees own the entire area is because they market so well, thus, they do baseball better than anyone. BTW, LA is the second largest market in the US. What about Chicago, Houston, Dallas-Ft Worth (Arlington), etc. Why aren't those teams successful on the field?
              26 titles is great. How many in the last decade? Baseball business is significantly different than it was 60 years ago, when there were only a handful of teams.

              What about the Mets? They've always been the second fiddle, and they don't get anywhere near the support in the surrounding area that the Yanks do.

              you want to say the Yankees market better fine, but that's no where near the case.

              Again I ask you think they would be this succesful if they were in say Seattle? Do you think they would have the same revenue stream? Would they be as succesful if they couldn't afford to eat bad contracts and have them not lose a step?

              No making the playoffs when you are that much in to the payroll is not enough. And not making the playoffs when you have a $200 million payroll is beyond bad. There is no excuse for that.

              The Cubs are owned by a newspaper with financial problems. The White Sox do have a WS title more recently than the Yankees do, as do the Angels..

              The Houston and Dallas markets pale in comparison to the NY market.
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              • jpup
                MVP
                • Feb 2003
                • 4571

                #142
                Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

                Originally posted by NYJets
                How did they give up on their young talent?

                They didn't trade any prospects this offseason. Joba's in the rotation. As of right now, the 5th starter is going to be Hughes, Kennedy, or another minor league pitcher. They might still bring Pettitte back, and he'll take that spot, but that's only a one year deal.

                The only position player prospect that they think might be ready any time soon is Austin Jackson in centerfield, and he's still obviously in the plans. There's no young first baseman waiting in the wings right now.
                Stop, you are making too much sense.
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                • duke776
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 3044

                  #143
                  Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

                  Originally posted by Kashanova
                  and to end this i say why stop here sign manny too.

                  Because they don't want to put too many dents into their new seats

                  (bad joke, i know)

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                  • DTX3
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 13022

                    #144
                    Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

                    Originally posted by jpup
                    26 World Championships. I dont have to make an argument. There many different ways to get it done. I am not sure why everyone cares how much they spend since most of you say that they are a bunch of choke artists. Sour grapes.
                    Why do you keep bringing up the 26 titles? they haven't won it all since 2000, since then they've been over paying for nothing.
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                    • bkrich83
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 71582

                      #145
                      Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

                      Originally posted by Sandman42
                      This is what I expected coming in to this thread. Makes me happy, I love when everyone hates the Yankees.
                      So you think this disparity in competitive balance, is good for baseball?
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                      • Sandman42
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 15186

                        #146
                        Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

                        Originally posted by Lintyfresh85
                        Hughes and Kennedy are pumped up prospects that were deemed 'prospects' only because they pitch for the Yankees.

                        I doubt either will ever have that much success in the MLB.
                        You may be right about Kennedy, he probably projects to a 4th or 5th starter. But, pretty much every scout had ranked Hughes as one of the top minor league pitchers for a couple of years. His skill is there, the only thing that keeps delaying him is his injuries.
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                        • Knight165
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 24964

                          #147
                          Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

                          Originally posted by bkrich83
                          26 titles is great. How many in the last decade? Baseball business is significantly different than it was 60 years ago, when there were only a handful of teams.

                          What about the Mets? They've always been the second fiddle, and they don't get anywhere near the support in the surrounding area that the Yanks do.

                          you want to say the Yankees market better fine, but that's no where near the case.

                          Again I ask you think they would be this succesful if they were in say Seattle? Do you think they would have the same revenue stream? Would they be as succesful if they couldn't afford to eat bad contracts and have them not lose a step?

                          No making the playoffs when you are that much in to the payroll is not enough. And not making the playoffs when you have a $200 million payroll is beyond bad. There is no excuse for that.

                          The Cubs are owned by a newspaper with financial problems. The White Sox do have a WS title more recently than the Yankees do, as do the Angels..

                          The Houston and Dallas markets pale in comparison to the NY market.
                          Yeah...we do play second fiddle to the Yankees, but support?
                          I'd say 4 million in attendance in a city with 2 teams ain't bad support.

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                          • Lintyfresh85
                            Where have I been?
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 17492

                            #148
                            Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

                            Fair enough. But the slobbering over Kennedy is crazy.

                            Hughes's track record does point to him being a star... I just question why a team like the Twins would rather take a package that the Mets offered over a package including Hughes if they really thought he was going to be a big time star.
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                            • bkrich83
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 71582

                              #149
                              Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

                              Originally posted by DTX3
                              Why do you keep bringing up the 26 titles? they haven't won it all since 2000, since then they've been over paying for nothing.
                              Of those 26, 22 of them are before 1980, and the majority of those are before 1950.

                              The 26 titles means they do business better than anyone argument, in todays world carries no weight.
                              Last edited by bkrich83; 12-23-2008, 06:41 PM.
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                              • bkrich83
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                                • Jul 2002
                                • 71582

                                #150
                                Re: Tex goes to the Bronx

                                Originally posted by Knight165
                                Yeah...we do play second fiddle to the Yankees, but support?
                                I'd say 4 million in attendance in a city with 2 teams ain't bad support.

                                M.K.
                                Knight165
                                In the Tri State region do you really think the Mets support and TV exposure is even close to the Yankees?

                                Point being if the Yankees were in KC, would they be this "good at business"?
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