MLB Off-Topic

[redsox4evur]

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Just throwing stuff out there, but I would like for the fans vote to count for 51% (so you can still claim that "fans choose the starters") but members of the BBWAA (I know some would suggest players and/or coaches having a say) would count for the other 49% for the starters and 100% of the reserves but still preserve the by now "traditional" last in player voted in by the fans.

I was listening to Sports talk radio earlier today and the hosts had a great idea. It was 25% per party, the parties were fans, players, coaches and media members. I like that idea a lot. That way everybody gets some sort of voice. But if there was one change I would make is to take away votes from the media because they would leave guys off their ballots that deserve to be there. For reasons such as suspected PED use, or they just dislike a player, or he doesn't talk with them after a game. Also I think the fans should be able to vote for all positions including the pitching staff. Like 4 starters and a reliever.

[Master Live 013]

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My take is that there are 34 players per All-Star Roster. Surely taking one player from every team doesn't steal too many roster spots. And just because a team is awful doesn't mean they don't have great players worthy of being an All-Star.

I'm not disputing that

[Blzer]

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Sabermetricians would like this one:

Every starter in the league is assigned a point value based on their WAR ranking in the league (1-15). So, the top third baseman in the AL would have 15 points per vote, etc. Most votes gets the top spot.

Seems almost like seeding to me where #16 has to go up against #1.

[SPTO]

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I think a great idea would be to keep the voting as is but the managers get to decide who actually starts. You'd have the best of both worlds with the fans being allowed to participate but if we get something fishy like the Infante situation that nearly came up at least it can get cleaned up by the manager of said All Star squad.

[redsox4evur]

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I think a great idea would be to keep the voting as is but the managers get to decide who actually starts. You'd have the best of both worlds with the fans being allowed to participate but if we get something fishy like the Infante situation that nearly came up at least it can get cleaned up by the manager of said All Star squad.

Yea that would be good as well. But don't know how the players would handle it. And if they go with a change like that I think fans should be able to vote all 35 players but the players and coaches obviously still vote. And each party gets 1/3 of the vote.

[Mabster]

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I think they should reverse it. Players pick the starters and fans get to pick most of the reserves. Then managers get to pick replacements for pitchers pitching the Sunday before and for DL players to round his team off.

[l3ulvl]

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I think a great idea would be to keep the voting as is but the managers get to decide who actually starts. You'd have the best of both worlds with the fans being allowed to participate but if we get something fishy like the Infante situation that nearly came up at least it can get cleaned up by the manager of said All Star squad.

See I don't really like this idea because I assume any manager would automatically start all his own guys...

I think they should reverse it. Managers pick the starters, limited to only one from their own team, and fans get to pick most of the reserves. Then managers get to pick replacements for pitchers pitching the Sunday before and for DL players to round his team off.

...and I don't really like this one either because if a team is absolutely stacked, the AS manager has to decide which guy is "his guy" to start for the ASG.

I think it's best we leave that component out of the manager's hands

[Mabster]

Re: MLB Off-Topic

See I don't really like this idea because I assume any manager would automatically start all his own guys...



...and I don't really like this one either because if a team is absolutely stacked, the AS manager has to decide which guy is "his guy" to start for the ASG.

I think it's best we leave that component out of the manager's hands

You got me in an edit. I forgot to let players vote.

[AC]

Re: MLB Off-Topic

Just throwing stuff out there, but I would like for the fans vote to count for 51% (so you can still claim that "fans choose the starters") but members of the BBWAA (I know some would suggest players and/or coaches having a say) would count for the other 49% for the starters and 100% of the reserves but still preserve the by now "traditional" last in player voted in by the fans.

Sorry but I'd like to keep the number of things the BBWAA can vote on as small as possible.

Sabermetricians would like this one:

Every starter in the league is assigned a point value based on their WAR ranking in the league (1-15). So, the top third baseman in the AL would have 15 points per vote, etc. Most votes gets the top spot.

Seems almost like seeding to me where #16 has to go up against #1.

Lol I like this but WAR is playing time and that could muddy things up. If a guy misses 20 games with an injury but is spectacular the rest of the year he gets dinged.

[dubcity]

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This "Statcast" **** needs to die in a ****ing 25 alarm fire.

Yeah, I can appreciate if teams think they have ultra specific data breakdowns that can help them, but it's not interesting to me in the least on a spectator level. And it's not like it's gonna bring in more of the casual or younger fans that the sport needs at this point.

[kmoser]

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So I'm not exactly sure what the whole Infante situation is, what happened lol?

[TheMatrix31]

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Yeah, I can appreciate if teams think they have ultra specific data breakdowns that can help them, but it's not interesting to me in the least on a spectator level. And it's not like it's gonna bring in more of the casual or younger fans that the sport needs at this point.

Yup. From a roster and talent analysis standpoint sure, fine, whatever.

From a fan standpoint? Just more pointless garbage to feed people's unrelenting desire to feel like they're an "insider."

[AC]

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I think it'll get old quickly but it's cool to see story behind an amazing catch every once in a while.

[dubcity]

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So I'm not exactly sure what the whole Infante situation is, what happened lol?

You mean how MLB rigged the vote so Altuve would start the ASG? Lol

[kmoser]

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You mean how MLB rigged the vote so Altuve would start the ASG? Lol

Yeah sure I guess lol, I haven't been paying much attention to voting and all that. Why did they rig it? What's the point?