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  • DieHardYankee26
    BING BONG
    • Feb 2008
    • 10178

    #5866
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    Originally posted by Majingir
    Someone's getting fired over this...
    https://twitter.com/KFCBarstool/stat...rc=twsrc%5Etfw
    I'd be outraged if it was the Post or Daily News because they're in the business of disrespectful, eye grabbing headlines. I'm not sure with Newsday. I wanna give them the benefit of the doubt and say they were just going for a poorly timed Noah's Ark reference. I don't believe someone wrote that headline with the intention of mocking a dead man.
    Originally posted by G Perico
    If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
    I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
    In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
    The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52695

      #5867
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      So Tim Tebow hit a homerun on the first pitch he saw in the Instructional League.
      I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

      I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


      Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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      • The Kid 24
        It's Show Time!
        • Jan 2007
        • 14762

        #5868
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        Originally posted by countryboy
        So Tim Tebow hit a homerun on the first pitch he saw in the Instructional League.
        He'll be Mets 2017 OD LF, book it... Haha
        Milwaukee Brewers | Green Bay Packers | North Carolina Tar Heels | Wisconsin Badgers

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        • DieHardYankee26
          BING BONG
          • Feb 2008
          • 10178

          #5869
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          Rookie of the Year race is wild. Both of the guys I want to win had unbelievable, incredible seasons and neither will win, with one maybe not getting a single vote.

          Gary goes off for half the year, but here's Fulmer pitching well the entire year. Even crazier than that is my guy Trea Turner putting up the numbers he's putting up, looking like a premier top of the lineup hitter for years to come, and he won't get a vote because Seager is just unreal. I keep forgetting he's a rookie, everyone said coming into the year that he would be great, and he lived up in every aspect. I like seeing young guys come up and make a difference.
          Originally posted by G Perico
          If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
          I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
          In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
          The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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          • WaitTilNextYear
            Go Cubs Go
            • Mar 2013
            • 16830

            #5870
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            Originally posted by DrJones
            Having the best record doesn't particularly help, either.
            World Series Champions since the Wild Card was introduced:

            1995: Braves (2nd best regular season record)
            1996: Yankees (3rd)
            1997: Marlins (4th)*
            1998: Yankees (1st)
            1999: Yankees (3rd)
            2000: Yankees (9th)
            2001: Diamondbacks (6th)
            2002: Angels (4th)*
            2003: Marlins (7th)*
            2004: Red Sox (3rd)*
            2005: White Sox (2nd)
            2006: Cardinals (13th)
            2007: Red Sox (1st)
            2008: Phillies (5th)
            2009: Yankees (1st)
            2010: Giants (5th)
            2011: Cardinals (9th)
            2012: Giants (4th)
            2013: Red Sox (1st)
            2014: Giants (10th)*
            2015: Royals (4th)

            *indicates Wild Card
            True, but the original premise was that the team with the best record was somehow worse off for it or dare I say, cursed. That just by having the best record, they were essentially eliminating themselves.

            The correct way to interpret this data is that there's a somewhat random relationship between regular season winning % and winning it all because you are requiring a team to win 3 consecutive short series.

            Even if you give a really strong team a 65% probability of winning each series (Division Series, Championship Series, World Series), their probability of going all the way is merely .65*.65*.65 = 27%. So essentially a team in the playoffs, even one that's favored in each round, will only win it all about a quarter of the time. This is mostly due to the randomness of small sample sizes and the strength of competition in the playoffs.

            Certainly, the Cubs have been the best team in baseball (with an enormous run differential of +248 after tonight) and have the best chance to win it all. Despite all that, the field (~75% chance) is always going to be favored over the top team (~25%) and not due to some flaw or hidden defect in the winningest team.

            Some teams are so dominant (1998 Yankees) that they can actually tilt the probability so far as to make it more of a coin flip (what if you have an 80% chance of winning each series?). It remains to be seen if the Cubs are on that level or not. If you are betting on one team, given equal odds, you'd be crazy not to bet on the Cubs this year.
            Chicago Cubs | Chicago Bulls | Green Bay Packers | Michigan Wolverines

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            • SPTO
              binging
              • Feb 2003
              • 68046

              #5871
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear

              Certainly, the Cubs have been the best team in baseball (with an enormous run differential of +248 after tonight) and have the best chance to win it all. Despite all that, the field (~75% chance) is always going to be favored over the top team (~25%) and not due to some flaw or hidden defect in the winningest team.

              Some teams are so dominant (1998 Yankees) that they can actually tilt the probability so far as to make it more of a coin flip (what if you have an 80% chance of winning each series?). It remains to be seen if the Cubs are on that level or not. If you are betting on one team, given equal odds, you'd be crazy not to bet on the Cubs this year.
              True, one would be crazy not to bet on the Cubs but I don't think they're a '98 Yankees type team. Lest we forget the Cubbies had that bad stretch in June/July where they were 28-26. Certainly the Cubs are a far different and arguably superior team right now but it's not a proverbial lock either.
              Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

              "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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              • LambertandHam
                All Star
                • Jul 2010
                • 8008

                #5872
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Originally posted by countryboy
                So Tim Tebow hit a homerun on the first pitch he saw in the Instructional League.
                Local news treated it as a top story this afternoon...
                Steam

                PSN: BigGreenZaku

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                • Speedy
                  #Ace
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 16143

                  #5873
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  I still dislike the one-game playoff for the WC winners.

                  I'd really like to see a 3-game series.
                  Originally posted by Gibson88
                  Anyone who asked for an ETA is not being Master of their Domain.
                  It's hard though...especially when I got my neighbor playing their franchise across the street...maybe I will occupy myself with Glamore Magazine.

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                  • DrJones
                    All Star
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 9107

                    #5874
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                    True, but the original premise was that the team with the best record was somehow worse off for it or dare I say, cursed. That just by having the best record, they were essentially eliminating themselves.

                    The correct way to interpret this data is that there's a somewhat random relationship between regular season winning % and winning it all because you are requiring a team to win 3 consecutive short series.

                    Even if you give a really strong team a 65% probability of winning each series (Division Series, Championship Series, World Series), their probability of going all the way is merely .65*.65*.65 = 27%. So essentially a team in the playoffs, even one that's favored in each round, will only win it all about a quarter of the time. This is mostly due to the randomness of small sample sizes and the strength of competition in the playoffs.

                    Certainly, the Cubs have been the best team in baseball (with an enormous run differential of +248 after tonight) and have the best chance to win it all. Despite all that, the field (~75% chance) is always going to be favored over the top team (~25%) and not due to some flaw or hidden defect in the winningest team.

                    Some teams are so dominant (1998 Yankees) that they can actually tilt the probability so far as to make it more of a coin flip (what if you have an 80% chance of winning each series?). It remains to be seen if the Cubs are on that level or not. If you are betting on one team, given equal odds, you'd be crazy not to bet on the Cubs this year.
                    Completely agree, and yet I can't help but think there's a little added pressure on first-place teams that have a history of failure, if only from that city's paranoid fan base and media. Note that the only four 1st-place teams to win it all are the Yankees and Red Sox, shortly after ending lengthy title droughts as underdogs pulling off shocking comebacks. Very possible that teams suffering from the "burden of expectations" is just confirmation bias on my part, but I can't imagine having a jaded media and gunshy fanbase continually waiting for the other shoe to drop is a positive.
                    Originally posted by Thrash13
                    Dr. Jones was right in stating that. We should have believed him.
                    Originally posted by slickdtc
                    DrJones brings the stinky cheese is what we've all learned from this debacle.
                    Originally posted by Kipnis22
                    yes your fantasy world when your proven wrong about 95% of your post

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                    • areobee401
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 16771

                      #5875
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      Baseball continues to see great success in local markets.

                      http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybro.../#35e160646f41
                      http://twitter.com/smittyroberts

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                      • WaitTilNextYear
                        Go Cubs Go
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 16830

                        #5876
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        Originally posted by DrJones
                        Completely agree, and yet I can't help but think there's a little added pressure on first-place teams that have a history of failure, if only from that city's paranoid fan base and media. Note that the only four 1st-place teams to win it all are the Yankees and Red Sox, shortly after ending lengthy title droughts as underdogs pulling off shocking comebacks. Very possible that teams suffering from the "burden of expectations" is just confirmation bias on my part, but I can't imagine having a jaded media and gunshy fanbase continually waiting for the other shoe to drop is a positive.
                        Oh there's definitely something to that, but it's hard to put a number on. If the Cubs have, say, a 75% probability of winning the NLDS (conjured that number out of thin air), do the added expectations make it really more like 60% odds? Hard to say.

                        I can tell you that the expectations and past failures matter to me. And that I will most definitely be a paranoid basket case when the Cubs inevitably get behind or give up a big inning in the playoffs. Or, heaven forbid, even lose a game.
                        Chicago Cubs | Chicago Bulls | Green Bay Packers | Michigan Wolverines

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                        • SPTO
                          binging
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 68046

                          #5877
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by areobee401
                          Baseball continues to see great success in local markets.

                          http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybro.../#35e160646f41
                          I know it's not as scientific as the data for the US teams it's nice to see the Blue Jays have the most improvement year over year with a 50% (and probably more as their data was through the end of July) increase which is HUGE compared to the highest increased team in the US. (The Dodgers with 28%)
                          Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club

                          "Baseball is the most important thing that doesn't matter at all" - Robert B. Parker

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                          • DieHardYankee26
                            BING BONG
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 10178

                            #5878
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Yankees and Gary holding a press conference at 3, no idea what it's about.
                            Originally posted by G Perico
                            If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                            I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                            In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                            The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                            • The Kid 24
                              It's Show Time!
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 14762

                              #5879
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                              Yankees and Gary holding a press conference at 3, no idea what it's about.
                              My guess is to sign him to the largest contact in MLB history!

                              Milwaukee Brewers | Green Bay Packers | North Carolina Tar Heels | Wisconsin Badgers

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                              • DieHardYankee26
                                BING BONG
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 10178

                                #5880
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by The Kid 24
                                My guess is to sign him to the largest contact in MLB history!

                                A lot of people were speculating an extension. Seems odd given his situation, he's just a rookie and will be on the minimum for a while, wouldn't be much incentive for the Yankees to deal unless they wanted to a. Establish that the relationship is in good faith and he's a cornerstone of our future or b. That it's a 7+ year deal that would buy out arbitration years.

                                Other people have said it could just be some kind of charity announcement. My favorite guess is him being named captain [emoji38]
                                Originally posted by G Perico
                                If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                                I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                                In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                                The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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