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  • SPTO
    binging
    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    #8161
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
    I'm really surprised to see people holding the possibility of him creating his own outlet as plausible. If all of these big sites are killing their sports writing, that leads you to believe there's an opportunity to make a lot of money in sportswriting? Bill Simmons was a bigger name, with ESPN backing, and Grantland still got shut down.
    I think Simmons being a jackass had more to do with Grantland being shutdown than anything else. IIRC ESPN tried to keep some kind of faux Grantland type space within their site for a while after Simmons left. I don't think any of us are thinking Rosenthal could make big money with his own outlet but i'm sure there would be a strong core that would go there.
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    • CMH
      Making you famous
      • Oct 2002
      • 26203

      #8162
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
      I'm really surprised to see people holding the possibility of him creating his own outlet as plausible. If all of these big sites are killing their sports writing, that leads you to believe there's an opportunity to make a lot of money in sportswriting? Bill Simmons was a bigger name, with ESPN backing, and Grantland still got shut down.
      Yeah I don't see it being that simple for him. But if he somehow got a group of well-known, unemployed baseball writers together, I think people would listen.

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      • DieHardYankee26
        BING BONG
        • Feb 2008
        • 10178

        #8163
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        Originally posted by SPTO
        I think Simmons being a jackass had more to do with Grantland being shutdown than anything else. IIRC ESPN tried to keep some kind of faux Grantland type space within their site for a while after Simmons left. I don't think any of us are thinking Rosenthal could make big money with his own outlet but i'm sure there would be a strong core that would go there.
        Grantland never made ESPN any money. Simmons being a star was the only reason it was started, and after that his stardom and the prestige it brought them made it worth it for them to keep. After he got canned, they kept it around for a few months, shuffled the writers they wanted to the main site and laid off the rest.

        I think this is a worrying trend for fans of baseball/sports writing.Like you said, Jayson Stark is still a free agent, giving out trivia nuggets on Twitter. Has anyone seen Marc Stein since his layoff? Field's getting smaller and smaller. At least Jonah Keri and Ben Lindbergh are still places writing. I'm happy Sam Miller works somewhere too, even though it's ESPN and I can't find any of his articles on their site lol.
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        • SPTO
          binging
          • Feb 2003
          • 68046

          #8164
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
          Grantland never made ESPN any money. Simmons being a star was the only reason it was started, and after that his stardom and the prestige it brought them made it worth it for them to keep. After he got canned, they kept it around for a few months, shuffled the writers they wanted to the main site and laid off the rest.

          I think this is a worrying trend for fans of baseball/sports writing.Like you said, Jayson Stark is still a free agent, giving out trivia nuggets on Twitter. Has anyone seen Marc Stein since his layoff? Field's getting smaller and smaller. At least Jonah Keri and Ben Lindbergh are still places writing. I'm happy Sam Miller works somewhere too, even though it's ESPN and I can't find any of his articles on their site lol.
          I found his latest article here I wish ESPN was like some other sites where you can click on the writer's name and you'd be taken to an archive of their articles but there you go.
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          • Master Live 013
            Hall Of Fame
            • Oct 2013
            • 12327

            #8165
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            Well, aren't some of the ESPN writers that are out still technically under contract so they can't write anywhere else until they reach a buyout with ESPN? That would be the reason some of them haven't resurfaced yet.

            As for Grantland, one of the reasons it got shutdown was because Simmons itself raided that place with a: "if I don't have it, you won't have either" mentality. Then he started The Ringer...
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            • Majingir
              Moderator
              • Apr 2005
              • 47433

              #8166
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              HOF this weekend. Should be a fun one to have. Raines finally gets in on his last possible chance after Expos fans have been lobbying for him for years.

              Raines getting induced into the HOF while having abunch of Expos fans in the crowd....all while Selig will be inducted as well. Might we actually hear someone(Selig) getting booed during their HOF induction lol.

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              • Steven78
                Banned
                • Apr 2013
                • 7240

                #8167
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/insta...d-khris-davis/

                Khris Davis by far the worst arm in all of MLB.

                I saw this article on Fangraphs - a 15 year review of the worst arms in baseball. Khris Davis is the worst - hands down. In fact, Davis is having the worst season of any 'arm' in the last 15 years (even Juan Pierre beats him!).

                Told you guys!

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                • Jr.
                  Playgirl Coverboy
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 19171

                  #8168
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by Steven78
                  http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/insta...d-khris-davis/

                  Khris Davis by far the worst arm in all of MLB.

                  I saw this article on Fangraphs - a 15 year review of the worst arms in baseball. Khris Davis is the worst - hands down. In fact, Davis is having the worst season of any 'arm' in the last 15 years (even Juan Pierre beats him!).

                  Told you guys!

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                  The gif in that article is hilarious. He crow hopped and I don't know if the ball goes 150 feet if it wasn't cut off.
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                  • TheMatrix31
                    RF
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 52897

                    #8169
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                    So, we give Facebook our clicks instead? I don't really see the difference.
                    If I'm already on there then hey. And Facebook is not responsible for the rise in the insufferability of sports like ESPN and other assorted bull**** "sports media outlets" are.

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                    • DieHardYankee26
                      BING BONG
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 10178

                      #8170
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      That'll be a fun take to look back on when sportswriters are complaining about poor placement in the News Feed next to 13 year olds making conspiracy videos.
                      Originally posted by G Perico
                      If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                      I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                      In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                      The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                      • WaitTilNextYear
                        Go Cubs Go
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 16830

                        #8171
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                        If I'm already on there then hey. And Facebook is not responsible for the rise in the insufferability of sports like ESPN and other assorted bull**** "sports media outlets" are.
                        But it is responsible for the insufferability of social media writ large.

                        But, I digress...
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                        • TheMatrix31
                          RF
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 52897

                          #8172
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                          But it is responsible for the insufferability of social media writ large.

                          But, I digress...
                          Eh, I find Twitter and Reddit and some others way worse.

                          But eh.

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                          • WaitTilNextYear
                            Go Cubs Go
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 16830

                            #8173
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Anyone remember the Drew Pomeranz for Anderson Espinoza deal last deadline season? How the Red Sox overpaid etc etc.

                            Well Pomeranz hasn't missed many starts for Boston, is performing just fine, and now Espinoza is the next to get his UCL repaired. You win some, you lose some.
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                            • Jr.
                              Playgirl Coverboy
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 19171

                              #8174
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                              Anyone remember the Drew Pomeranz for Anderson Espinoza deal last deadline season? How the Red Sox overpaid etc etc.

                              Well Pomeranz hasn't missed many starts for Boston, is performing just fine, and now Espinoza is the next to get his UCL repaired. You win some, you lose some.
                              Remember the Shelby Miller for Dansby Samsonite trade?

                              Looks like everyone lost that one so far
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                              • Chip Douglass
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Dec 2005
                                • 12256

                                #8175
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by Jr.
                                Remember the Shelby Miller for Dansby Samsonite trade?

                                Looks like everyone lost that one so far
                                Braves got Ender Inciarte in that deal too. I'd still say they're the winners.
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