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  • kehlis
    Moderator
    • Jul 2008
    • 27738

    #9976
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    Originally posted by Blzer
    I won't try and persuade you, then. Just let me provide this bit of logic:



    If they think they can charge you the same price of those tickets as before, they are out of their minds. The value of those tickets just went down tremendously in my book. I'll never sit there again.

    They can still charge the same and they will. There will be plenty of people in line to buy seats from those that don’t want to sit behind the netting.

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    • BunnyHardaway
      Banned
      • Nov 2004
      • 15195

      #9977
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      Originally posted by Blzer
      Lucky you, then. It bothers me to no end.

      Anything that separates me from the field kills the immersion factor for me that much more. Whether it is an extra row of people, sitting in an extra deck, having an extra walkway in front of me (or those planters in the outfield of some stadiums), or any sort of screen.

      Might as well just watch it through my television screen, then. AT&T Park is too expensive for me anyway, but they'll be sure to not get my lower deck dollars in foul ground behind that net.

      That being said, I'm all for a net behind home plate. I've explained why before. They are great seats, but if I had a choice I would rather pick the seats in the same row that is not behind the net, more off to the side.
      The only way it’s a problem is if you make it a point to be annoyed by it. It’s barely noticeable if you’re paying attention to literally anything else going on. If a thin layer of netting that’s preventing fans from being hit by flying balls and/or bats effects immersion, that’s a you problem, not a net problem.

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      • Blzer
        Resident film pundit
        • Mar 2004
        • 42509

        #9978
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        Originally posted by kehlis
        They can still charge the same and they will. There will be plenty of people in line to buy seats from those that don’t want to sit behind the netting.
        No, I agree that they will. I just don't think it's right. But people will buy; I just won't is all.
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        • TheMatrix31
          RF
          • Jul 2002
          • 52897

          #9979
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          I sat behind the dugout unobstructed last year and it was incredible. Sat behind home plate during a Kershaw start once a couple years ago and the net annoyed the **** out of me. I wouldn't spend any real money to watch from behind a net ever. What might not bother you might bother someone else. I don't understand this insistence that everyone's perspective and preferences must be the same. Worse yet, the mocking.

          I'd rather (and do) sit on the third level anyway so I can see everything.
          Last edited by TheMatrix31; 03-27-2018, 02:15 PM.

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          • kehlis
            Moderator
            • Jul 2008
            • 27738

            #9980
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            Originally posted by Blzer
            No, I agree that they will. I just don't think it's right. But people will buy; I just won't is all.

            I generally agree with you on the netting, was just disagreeing with the statement “if they think they can charge the same, they are out of their mind.”

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            • TripleCrown9
              Keep the Faith
              • May 2010
              • 23663

              #9981
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              If I've got those seats, I'd much rather just enjoy the game than having to worry about having Major League reflexes if a foul comes towards my face.
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              • BunnyHardaway
                Banned
                • Nov 2004
                • 15195

                #9982
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                If I've got those seats, I'd much rather just enjoy the game than having to worry about having Major League reflexes if a foul comes towards my face.
                I always leaned on the side of “people should pay attention” until I sat third base line last year and heard the sound of a foul line drive hit the empty seat a few rows over when I looked down to take a bite of my food. Don’t want that in or around my head area thank you.
                Last edited by BunnyHardaway; 03-27-2018, 03:50 PM.

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                • DieHardYankee26
                  BING BONG
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 10178

                  #9983
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                  I don't understand this insistence that everyone's perspective and preferences must be the same. Worse yet, the mocking.
                  Didn't you say you lost respect for Joe Torre thinking the extra innings minor league rule may lead to a more entertaining game?
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                  • Jr.
                    Playgirl Coverboy
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 19171

                    #9984
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                    Didn't you say you lost respect for Joe Torre thinking the extra innings minor league rule may lead to a more entertaining game?
                    Don't try to follow the logic. Just laugh at the hypocrisy and move on.

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                    • DieHardYankee26
                      BING BONG
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 10178

                      #9985
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      You're right.

                      Blzer, did you see it in person or is there a picture out there? How bad is it really? Are we looking at the beginning of Arena league baseball?
                      Originally posted by G Perico
                      If I ain't got it, then I gotta take it
                      I can't hide who I am, baby I'm a gangster
                      In the Rolls Royce, steppin' on a mink rug
                      The clique just a gang of bosses that linked up

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                      • BunnyHardaway
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 15195

                        #9986
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                        Didn't you say you lost respect for Joe Torre thinking the extra innings minor league rule may lead to a more entertaining game?
                        That’s facts.

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                        • Blzer
                          Resident film pundit
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 42509

                          #9987
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by BunnyHardaway
                          The only way it’s a problem is if you make it a point to be annoyed by it. It’s barely noticeable if you’re paying attention to literally anything else going on. If a thin layer of netting that’s preventing fans from being hit by flying balls and/or bats effects immersion, that’s a you problem, not a net problem.
                          That sounds like the pace of play talk that's been going on since Manfred took office. It's only a problem because he keeps talking about it.

                          I'll never let this die though, on a personal level that is. This, the automatic walks, NL obtaining a DH in the future possibly, Bonds maybe not getting into the hall... never. If I don't bring it up again (and I'm sure you won't want me to), that doesn't mean I've turned to being okay with the idea.

                          Originally posted by kehlis
                          I generally agree with you on the netting, was just disagreeing with the statement “if they think they can charge the same, they are out of their mind.”
                          Gotcha. I just feel that they are "getting away with something." They've literally decreased the value of the seat once they put the netting up (unless their argument is that the value of safety replaces that, which is understandable but one I simply don't agree with).

                          Originally posted by DieHardYankee26
                          You're right.

                          Blzer, did you see it in person or is there a picture out there? How bad is it really? Are we looking at the beginning of Arena league baseball?
                          Well, I saw it on TV, but I've seen the live netting before since I've been to ball games, so I know what it's like.

                          When they said they were going to extend the netting, I initially thought it was going to stop short of the dugout. Then I thought it was just going to be a low-hanging net for the first few rows, or slanting on its way down. I couldn't believe what I saw in the game as far as how long it extended. I'll capture a shot of it to show you.

                          And note, I'm not capturing a picture to show how "obstructive or unobstructive" it is, I'm capturing it to show how far out it goes. Arena League Baseball it almost becomes.

                          I wonder if other teams are doing netting to this extreme.
                          Last edited by Blzer; 03-27-2018, 05:22 PM.
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                          • ImTellinTim
                            YNWA
                            • Sep 2006
                            • 33028

                            #9988
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by Blzer
                            Gotcha. I just feel that they are "getting away with something." They've literally decreased the value of the seat once they put the netting up (unless their argument is that the value of safety replaces that, which is understandable but one I simply don't agree with).
                            They haven't literally decreased the value of the seat though. To YOU they have. But not to the next guy in line to buy it. That was his point.

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                            • Blzer
                              Resident film pundit
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 42509

                              #9989
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              At any rate, here it is at AT&T Park (I drew in Paint on the last one to outline its height and reach):








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                              • TripleCrown9
                                Keep the Faith
                                • May 2010
                                • 23663

                                #9990
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by Blzer
                                That sounds like the pace of play talk that's been going on since Manfred took office. It's only a problem because he keeps talking about it.

                                I'll never let this die though, on a personal level that is. This, the automatic walks, NL obtaining a DH in the future possibly, Bonds maybe not getting into the hall... never. If I don't bring it up again (and I'm sure you won't want me to), that doesn't mean I've turned to being okay with the idea.



                                Gotcha. I just feel that they are "getting away with something." They've literally decreased the value of the seat once they put the netting up (unless their argument is that the value of safety replaces that, which is understandable but one I simply don't agree with).



                                Well, I saw it on TV, but I've seen the live netting before since I've been to ball games, so I know what it's like.

                                When they said they were going to extend the netting, I initially thought it was going to stop short of the dugout. Then I thought it was just going to be a low-hanging net for the first few rows, or slanting on its way down. I couldn't believe what I saw in the game as far as how long it extended. I'll capture a shot of it to show you.

                                And note, I'm not capturing a picture to show how "obstructive or unobstructive" it is, I'm capturing it to show how far out it goes. Arena League Baseball it almost becomes.

                                I wonder if other teams are doing netting to this extreme.
                                OMG, what on Earth are they "getting away with"? Is someone in his office twirling his bad guy mustache saying, "Aha, we sure tricked those fools! They have to pay the exact same price but now, get this, the seats are safer! Hahaha idiots!"
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