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  • Blzer
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    • Mar 2004
    • 42509

    #9961
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    I was watching an ST game a couple of weeks ago, and the announcers just said that umpires are supposed to just break it up.
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    • Sportsforever
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      • Mar 2005
      • 20368

      #9962
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      Originally posted by Blzer
      I was watching an ST game a couple of weeks ago, and the announcers just said that umpires are supposed to just break it up.
      That doesn't really "do" much for pace of play. I mean, if there are no consequences than things are going to continue as they have before. Heck, we've all seen how great the umps are at enforcing "pace of play" stuff before. Not that I want the rules to begin with, but it's just funny to me that this is how they are doing it.
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      • Rocky2018
        Rookie
        • Mar 2018
        • 82

        #9963
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        Originally posted by Sportsforever
        I haven't been able to find anything on this, so maybe someone here has some knowledge to share. We have all read/heard about the new "pace of play" changes, particularly the limiting of mound visits to 6, including visits from infielders. Now, what I'm wondering is what is the penalty if a player violates the rule?



        For example, let's say it's the 9th inning of a tie game and a team has used up its 6 visits...the 3B runs in to the pitchers mound to clarify something and the umpires call him out on it. Okay...now what? I can't find anything that lists the penalties for this. Does a batter each base? Is there an automatic ball called? Is the player assessed a fine? It's weird to put out "here's the rule" without "here's what happens if you break the rule".


        I think it’s a ball awarded to the batter unless it’s a pitching change, the umpire is supposed to let the catcher know though before he goes out there that he’s out of visits to help prevent the penalty, not sure where I read that I’ll try to find it again and source it


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        • TheMatrix31
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          • Jul 2002
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          #9964
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          God that sounds terrible and clunky and dumb.

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          • JayhawkerStL
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            • Apr 2004
            • 3644

            #9965
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            This article at MLB.com by Joe Posnanski is a must read as he compares baseball in 1968 to today's game. He gets to the comparisons after this intro that helps explain 1968's significance.

            50 years ago, an Opening Day set apart
            2018 only the second time all MLB teams will open on same day


            Tragedy was at the heart of Opening Day in 1968. You have to go back that long -- 50 years -- to find the only other time every baseball team in the Majors opened on the same day. This will happen Thursday as a gigantic nationwide celebration of the game.

            And it happened in 1968, because baseball opened in the heartbreaking days after Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated.

            Every American sport went silent after the shooting of Dr. King. NBA and NHL playoff games were postponed. The PGA Tour pushed back its final round of the Greater Greensboro Open.

            "A virtual three-day moratorium on sports, unprecedented in American history, is being offered in tribute to the memory of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.," United Press International reported.

            But in 1968, it was one thing to postpone a golf tournament's final round. It was quite another to push back baseball's Opening Day, which was and is much closer to a national holiday. There was much discussion about what to do. Dr. King was shot Thursday evening, April 4, and President Lyndon Johnson declared Sunday a day of national mourning. Protest, looting and burning followed in numerous cities across America. Opening Day was scheduled in Washington and Cincinnati on Monday -- in those days, baseball always opened in Washington and Cincinnati -- but those were pushed back to Wednesday.

            Tuesday was the day of Dr. King's funeral, and all the scheduled games except one were pushed back to Wednesday. Dodgers president Walter O'Malley almost until the final moment insisted that because their game began so late in the day for most of the country -- 11 p.m. ET -- there was enough separation from the funeral to make the game respectful. The game might have been played if not for the Philadelphia Phillies, the Dodgers' opponent, making it clear they would refuse to take the field and would forfeit the game. So O'Malley relented, and the Dodgers' opener joined the Wednesday slate.

            "Mr. O'Malley is a man with tremendous ability," Jackie Robinson told a reporter, "but also a man with a total lack of knowledge of the frustration of the Negro community. It grieves me that Walter O'Malley did not understand the importance of the thing."

            And so every team opened on April 10, 1968 -- the first time all 20 Major League teams opened the season together. It was a somber but unique day in baseball history. And looking back to Opening Day 1968 is a good way to see just how far baseball has come.
            "There's something about Opening Day that gets to you whether you've been around 20 minutes or 20 years," Whitey Ford said. "Every man has his own private thoughts when they play that national anthem before the first pitch."
            The rest of the article is a great read, as Posnanski might be the greatest sportswriter of our time.

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            • CMH
              Making you famous
              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #9966
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              Originally posted by JayhawkerStL
              This article at MLB.com by Joe Posnanski is a must read as he compares baseball in 1968 to today's game. He gets to the comparisons after this intro that helps explain 1968's significance.

              50 years ago, an Opening Day set apart
              2018 only the second time all MLB teams will open on same day






              The rest of the article is a great read, as Posnanski might be the greatest sportswriter of our time.
              So is this being done to honor MLK on the 50th anniversary of his assassination?

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              • JayhawkerStL
                Banned
                • Apr 2004
                • 3644

                #9967
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Honestly, I have no idea if that was the purpose or not.

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                • SPTO
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                  • Feb 2003
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                  #9968
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by CMH
                  So is this being done to honor MLK on the 50th anniversary of his assassination?

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                  I think it's one HUGE coincidence as there had been talk of opening it up on the same day for everybody for a while before it finally happened.
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                  • redblacks75
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                    • Apr 2015
                    • 14

                    #9969
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                    I'm watching the 30 for 30 about fantasy baseball, and it's incredibly fun and amusing. Maybe in my Top 5 30 for 30s.


                    Going to have to watch that one


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                    • Blzer
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                      • Mar 2004
                      • 42509

                      #9970
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic

                      I see the new netting at AT&T Park.

                      I'm flummoxed.

                      And pissed.
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                      • TripleCrown9
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                        • May 2010
                        • 23663

                        #9971
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        Originally posted by Blzer
                        I see the new netting at AT&T Park.

                        I'm flummoxed.

                        And pissed.
                        There's a lot of reactions to things in baseball I don't understand. This is one of them.
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                        • Blzer
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                          • Mar 2004
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                          #9972
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by TripleCrown9
                          There's a lot of reactions to things in baseball I don't understand. This is one of them.
                          I won't try and persuade you, then. Just let me provide this bit of logic:

                          If they think they can charge you the same price of those tickets as before, they are out of their minds. The value of those tickets just went down tremendously in my book. I'll never sit there again.
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                          • TripleCrown9
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                            • May 2010
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                            #9973
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by Blzer
                            I won't try and persuade you, then. Just let me provide this bit of logic:

                            If they think they can charge you the same price of those tickets as before, they are out of their minds. The value of those tickets just went down tremendously in my book. I'll never sit there again.
                            To sit behind a see through screen that doesn't impair vision of the game whatsoever? Ok.
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                            • BunnyHardaway
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                              • Nov 2004
                              • 15195

                              #9974
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by Blzer
                              I won't try and persuade you, then. Just let me provide this bit of logic:

                              If they think they can charge you the same price of those tickets as before, they are out of their minds. The value of those tickets just went down tremendously in my book. I'll never sit there again.
                              I sat behind home plate 3 years ago and thought “wow this screen is really annoying” approximately zero times.

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                              • Blzer
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                                • Mar 2004
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                                #9975
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by BunnyHardaway
                                I sat behind home plate 3 years ago and thought “wow this screen is really annoying” approximately zero times.
                                Lucky you, then. It bothers me to no end.

                                Anything that separates me from the field kills the immersion factor for me that much more. Whether it is an extra row of people, sitting in an extra deck, having an extra walkway in front of me (or those planters in the outfield of some stadiums), or any sort of screen.

                                Might as well just watch it through my television screen, then. AT&T Park is too expensive for me anyway, but they'll be sure to not get my lower deck dollars in foul ground behind that net.

                                That being said, I'm all for a net behind home plate. I've explained why before. They are great seats, but if I had a choice I would rather pick the seats in the same row that is not behind the net, more off to the side.
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