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  • SPTO
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    • Feb 2003
    • 68046

    #12691
    Re: MLB Off-Topic

    Originally posted by areobee401
    I don't see MLB on Fox making a splash ratings wise head-to-head against a TNF game, even one on cable. I look at it as more of a way for Fox to maintain decent ratings on the main channel, while bringing significant eyeballs to the FS1 brand. Something they have done with other properties they own rights to in the past.
    It's also indicative of how FOX is pivoting towards more live programming whether it's sports or reality type programming.
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    • Mercury112491
      All Star
      • Mar 2007
      • 7426

      #12692
      Re: MLB Off-Topic

      Originally posted by SPTO
      It's also indicative of how FOX is pivoting towards more live programming whether it's sports or reality type programming.


      Yeah they’ve got Smackdown coming to regular Fox and NXT coming to FS1 later this year too.


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      • TripleCrown9
        Keep the Faith
        • May 2010
        • 23663

        #12693
        Re: MLB Off-Topic

        File this under longest of longshots, but Long Beach has approached the Angels about moving to their city.

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        • ShowTyme15
          LADetermined
          • Jan 2004
          • 11853

          #12694
          Re: MLB Off-Topic

          Originally posted by TripleCrown9
          File this under longest of longshots, but Long Beach has approached the Angels about moving to their city.

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          Not like it's much further. The Angels want to be in LA so bad might as well move to Long Beach and be in LA county.

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          • Majingir
            Moderator
            • Apr 2005
            • 47439

            #12695
            Re: MLB Off-Topic

            Starting today, we'll see MLB.com reveal top 10 farm systems.

            Jays, Rays, Tigers, Twins, White Sox, Astros, Braves, Reds, Dodgers, Padres are teams in the top 10.

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            • Sportsforever
              NL MVP
              • Mar 2005
              • 20368

              #12696
              Re: MLB Off-Topic

              Originally posted by Majingir
              Starting today, we'll see MLB.com reveal top 10 farm systems.



              Jays, Rays, Tigers, Twins, White Sox, Astros, Braves, Reds, Dodgers, Padres are teams in the top 10.


              Crazy that as good as the Astros are they still have a top 10 system.


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              • Majingir
                Moderator
                • Apr 2005
                • 47439

                #12697
                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                Originally posted by Sportsforever
                Crazy that as good as the Astros are they still have a top 10 system.


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                They've suddenly become the model on how to build a franchise. Not that it's a surprise the MLB draft is a complete guess, but to think, Astros are where they are because of developing guys, but despite that, they had 3 #1 picks since 2012, and only 1 turned into a big league player.

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                • Themayorofawsometown
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                  • Sep 2015
                  • 1101

                  #12698
                  Re: MLB Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by Sportsforever
                  Crazy that as good as the Astros are they still have a top 10 system.


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                  Dodgers as well considering that they have been giving away prospects for rentals for the last 3 years

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                  • Master Live 013
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 12327

                    #12699
                    Re: MLB Off-Topic
                    Major League Baseball has offered to eliminate the implementation of a pitch clock until at least 2022 as part of a wide-ranging proposal delivered today to the MLB Players Association, sources tell ESPN. Details soon on https://t.co/YgELfWbbfb and @SportsCenter.
                    — Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) February 27, 2019
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                    • Master Live 013
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 12327

                      #12700
                      Re: MLB Off-Topic
                      Among the items in the league’s proposal: the ability to implement a three-batter minimum and change roster sizes in 2020, a single July 31 trade deadline, shorter inning breaks, fewer mound visits, limits on position players pitching. Dovetails with a number of union concerns.
                      — Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) February 27, 2019
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                      • DamnYanks2
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 20794

                        #12701
                        Re: MLB Off-Topic

                        Why the **** can't they just leave the game alone? It's not pace of play holding baseball back or causing attendance levels to drop.

                        It's high ticket prices, and owners that are greedy that won't put in what they are getting.

                        Alot of teams currently constructed. Quite honestly are trash. You can't expect fans to keep supporting that garbage.



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                        • Blzer
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                          • Mar 2004
                          • 42509

                          #12702
                          Re: MLB Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by DamnYanks2
                          Why the **** can't they just leave the game alone? It's not pace of play holding baseball back or causing attendance levels to drop.

                          It's high ticket prices, and owners that are greedy that won't put in what they are getting.

                          Alot of teams currently constructed. Quite honestly are trash. You can't expect fans to keep supporting that garbage.



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                          I always wondered: when I see a team like the Reds physically have like 10,000 at the game, what's the harm in lowering the ticket prices? Halve the ticket prices, and hope that double come. Heck, even if 50% more come, you can probably get all the rest back through parking, concessions and merchandise.

                          This would be stupid if you're drawing 80% capacity all the time, but when it looks like you can't draw flies, what's the deal there? I'd charge people a buck if it meant to fill the seats, even if it was just getting the same amount of revenue back. It's a good look and an even better time out.
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                          • DamnYanks2
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 20794

                            #12703
                            Re: MLB Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by Blzer
                            I always wondered: when I see a team like the Reds physically have like 10,000 at the game, what's the harm in lowering the ticket prices? Halve the ticket prices, and hope that double come. Heck, even if 50% more come, you can probably get all the rest back through parking, concessions and merchandise.

                            This would be stupid if you're drawing 80% capacity all the time, but when it looks like you can't draw flies, what's the deal there? I'd charge people a buck if it meant to fill the seats, even if it was just getting the same amount of revenue back. It's a good look and an even better time out.
                            It's just greed man. You keep putting losers on the field year in and out. That's what you get.

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                            • Majingir
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 47439

                              #12704
                              Re: MLB Off-Topic

                              Ticket prices definitely are an issue.

                              Not all NBA or NHL teams are at 100% capacity, and they have 19,000 or so seat arenas. A baseball stadium with double the amount of seating and prices fairly similar while having fewer playoff teams and more "meaningless games".

                              In the past you could enjoy a game at half decent seats with you and 2-3 other people for under $100(for tickets).

                              Nowadays, for $100 in various places, you're paying for 2-3 people in worse seats.

                              I know Jays went crazy in boosting ticket prices as much as they could the moment they had a good team. IIRC, next to the Cubs, Jays had highest playoff ticket prices a few years back. In 00s their team was the ultimate .500 club and tickets were cheap and fans didn't want to support a bad team. Can't imagine what this year will be like with a bad team and high prices.

                              Not to mention, with things like MLBTV, would you rather attend a single game live, or pay for an entire seasons subscription to watch your team and all other teams play on TV? $90 to be able to watch your team play 162 games on TV vs $50+ for a single game ticket (factoring in lets say $25 for parking, and $15+ on food/drink, that's gonna exceed the MLBTV subscription)

                              If I'm MLB, I'm investing in VR much more. If fans can't or don't want to go to the ballpark then that's fine, but if you could give them that experience while not having to pay nearly $100 for a game, then you'd be more likely to get people watching in a way besides just TV.
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                              • tonybologna
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 9092

                                #12705
                                Re: MLB Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by Master Live 013
                                Major League Baseball has offered to eliminate the implementation of a pitch clock until at least 2022 as part of a wide-ranging proposal delivered today to the MLB Players Association, sources tell ESPN. Details soon on https://t.co/YgELfWbbfb and @SportsCenter.
                                — Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) February 27, 2019
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                                Good. But kill it forever.
                                Agreed!

                                Originally posted by Master Live 013
                                Among the items in the league’s proposal: the ability to implement a three-batter minimum and change roster sizes in 2020, a single July 31 trade deadline, shorter inning breaks, fewer mound visits, limits on position players pitching. Dovetails with a number of union concerns.
                                — Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) February 27, 2019
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                                New thing to kill: 3 batter minimum.
                                Agreed again. Did you guys read some of the other implementations that MLB is wanting to add by 2022? Geez! I was baffled by reading these things.

                                MLB is also proposing limitations on position players' usage as pitchers, getting rid of the waiver trading period, further cutting mound visits and potentially shortening inning breaks, sources said.

                                I think all of the things quoted above are just fine right now. How can they shorten inning breaks? They have got to have commercials & to me inning breaks are only a couple of commercials anyhow unlike the NFL which is like a commercial marathon the whole game. Further cutting mound visits? They have already done that & the number of visits are completely fine now. I also don't like the idea of getting rid of the waiver trading period.

                                Now, there's not usually a whole lot happens during this time but certain players do see movement so why get rid of it? They are trying to get rid of stuff that isn't effecting the time of play on top of additional stuff to speed up games now. Just too many things being thrown around in my opinion for the game of baseball. It's baseball still for a reason.

                                There is one idea that I do like & that's expanding the MLB rosters to 26 players. However, during September callups the maximum amount of players allowed on the roster would be 28 players(2 additional callups). That to me is just silly. This takes away all these young prospects at a chance for gaining some experience for a short while at seasons end. By the way, these last couple of ideas(26-man rosters & 2 extra September callups) are said to be implemented in 2020 instead of 2022.

                                MLB is also proposing limitations on position players' usage as pitchers

                                This one really irks me. The explanation as to how this will work is as follows:

                                The use of position players as pitchers would have rules attached to it, sources said. Each player at the beginning of a season would be designated a pitcher or position player, except in cases where a player is deemed a two-way player (with 20 major league innings pitched and 20 starts at a position, including designated hitter, with at least three plate appearances). Position players could pitch only after the ninth inning or following the sixth inning in games in which their team trails by at least seven runs.

                                This is just way out of bounds & just needs to be totally ditched in my opinion. WOW!
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