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**ShowTyme15** · 02-13-2015, 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by redsox4evur

Ok so I was just reading an article on Bleacher Report about upcoming lefty pitching prospects. And like I usually do I go into the comments sections to see what angry fans are saying that they missed pitcher x he is going to be nasty this year. And the most recent comment on the article was this:
Pretty excited about having kershaw, urias 1,2 punch potentially end of this year or next year..Grienke probably will be gone by then so for LA to stay as an elite rotation, urias will need to have an impact..ryu will still be there by the time urias gets a shot so only thing is I'm worried about the rotation being a little lefty heavy..anyone have thoughts?

Showtyme, is this at all possible that Urias makes his debut this year and is the Dodger number 2 next year? I mean there's no chance right he hasn't pitched above the Rookie League yet.

It's very possible he could be called up this year. I definitely can see him in the to rotation if Greinke leaves and we don't land David Price. He pitched well during spring training and is considered the next big pitching prospect.

**redsox4evur** · 02-13-2015, 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by ShowTyme15

It's very possible he could be called up this year. I definitely can see him in the to rotation if Greinke leaves and we don't land David Price. He pitched well during spring training and is considered the next big pitching prospect.

Yea I could see him in the rotation next year. But as the number 2 starter? I don't/can't see that. I would go Kershaw, Ryu, McCarthy, number 4, Urias. This with Greinke opting out and not signing Price.

**ShowTyme15** · 02-13-2015, 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by redsox4evur

Yea I could see him in the rotation next year. But as the number 2 starter? I don't/can't see that. I would go Kershaw, Ryu, McCarthy, number 4, Urias. This with Greinke opting out and not signing Price.

He has the ability to be a top of the rotation guy. I think he'll get there I just don't know when. A few things have to happen first. Injuries, trades, if McCarthy falls apart, Greinke leaves, we don't get Price etc....... Friedman and Zaidi like Urias a ton so I wouldn't be surprised if we see him this year if not then in the next 2. He'll be here sooner rather than later.

**redsox4evur** · 02-13-2015, 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by ShowTyme15

He has the ability to be a top of the rotation guy. I think he'll get there I just don't know when. A few things have to happen first. Injuries, trades, if McCarthy falls apart, Greinke leaves, we don't get Price etc....... Friedman and Zaidi like Urias a ton so I wouldn't be surprised if we see him this year if not then in the next 2. He'll be here sooner rather than later.

Yea I think he will get there as well but I don't see it being this year or next year that like the guy had said.

**ShowTyme15** · 02-13-2015, 03:44 PM

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American League will be the home team at next years ASG in San Diego.

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http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/13/the-american-league-will-be-the-home-team-for-the-2016-all-star-game-in-san-diego/

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**Majingir** · 02-13-2015, 04:39 PM

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Originally posted by ShowTyme15

American League will be the home team at next years ASG in San Diego.
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...-in-san-diego/

Ya, that makes sense. Lets just have every ASG at NL stadiums, but make up for it by calling AL the home team.....

Originally posted by AC

You're that pessimistic after acquiring two elite players in the same offseason? lol

Originally posted by SPTO

Why are you so pessimistic man? The Jays played meaningful baseball up til September last year and that team got decimated by injuries. This year's team looks to be more durable AND better with the young kids making strides and the addition of Donaldson and Martin.

Not saying the moves they made weren't great, it's just that seems like so many years there's always some kind of hype, and they've never lived up to it once. And the big moves they made,does improve their offense alot, but offense hasn't been Jays problem past several years. Pitching has been main problem. 11th ranked rotation in AL last year and 12th ranked bullpen. Sure,they had 4th best offense/defense in AL last year, but they won't make playoffs unless their pitching is in top half of the league.

Can't blame me for not being so confident in Jays when they haven't made playoffs in 20+ years.

**Master Live 013** · 02-13-2015, 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by kehlis

When you look at that chart and eliminate anything pre-1990 (TV era) the length of game goes up pretty evenly with runs per game until about the late 2000's when ad revenue really started to take off.

No reason to believe that trend wouldn't continue with more offense.

The commentator is basing his argument off of a world we don't live in anymore.

Ok, so let me clarify so we don't talk past each other.

According to the article:

"As you can see, average time of game has been trending up steadily, and doesn't actually seem to track the changes in run environments all that closely."

"And this phenomenon essentially repeated itself in 1994 -- when the Steroid Era kicked offense into hyperdrive -- as we see run scoring increase rapidly while time of game barely moves at all. Twice in the past 40 years, MLB has significantly increased run scoring, and both times, the average length of the games was essentially untouched."

"And then, maybe most interestingly, we can see that the length of game has really started trending upward over the past five years -- the same time period when offense is cratering."

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Scoring goes up, rate of growth of average length of game "essentially untouched". That implies no correlation between run scoring average and average length of game. No matter how many times one repeats it it doesn't make it any more true.

Length of game might be increasing, in part, because as you say, the game being structure around TV broadcasting and a higher number of advertisement.

Originally posted by kehlis

No reason to believe that trend wouldn't continue with more offense.

True, there is no reason to believe that the trend of longer games wouldn't continue with more offense. There is also no reason to believe that the trend of longer games wouldn't continue with less offense since the amount of offense doesn't seem to be the determining factor as to how long games are in a macro sense.

**TheMatrix31** · 02-13-2015, 05:30 PM

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Stop. ****ing. With. Baseball.

**Master Live 013** · 02-13-2015, 05:40 PM

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Well, I would like to see some changes (****ing?) in baseball.

For example,

the ability for teams to trade picks.
All-Star Game not determining homefield advantage.
Tougher PED policy (It can always be tougher).

**Majingir** · 02-13-2015, 05:43 PM

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For game time, is the overall length cause of the game itself,or cause of the team/network?

Cause this graph below, while Rays are #1, look at many other teams at top. Red Sox,Dodgers,Yankees,Tigers. Teams you'd expect to see on the big network games. Bottom of the list with teams like Mariners,Padres,Royals are teams you won't expect to see on the big national games.

So maybe that might have something to do with overal game lengths being longer? If MLB wants to cut average game lengths to under 3hrs, maybe theres stuff they can do to the national games to help reduce lengths,cause almost half the league already is below 3hrs.

Spoiler

**Master Live 013** · 02-13-2015, 05:47 PM

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Well, there has been some talk about making it so a reliever has to faces more than batter to cut pitching changes.

Meh, don't like it.

**Majingir** · 02-14-2015, 12:55 AM

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They shouldn't change that, but they should change amount of time between reliever changes. It's a full commercial break during pitching changes! I know it's difference pitching on the mound than in the bullpen,but surely they get warmed up enough in the bullpen that they don't need to spend 2 minutes throwing off the mound or something before play resumes.

**ImTellinTim** · 02-17-2015, 06:20 PM

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Will be adding Angel Stadium and Citizen's Bank Park to the list this season. Just bought a Phillies ticket and just need to figure out exactly what Angels game I'll be going to. I think they're playing the Royals when I'm in Palm Springs, but it's also right around Coachella time, and I don't want to be in that traffic.

And maybe Wrigley too, but that one is just a matter of time since my brother lives near it.

**SPTO** · 02-18-2015, 11:00 PM

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Did someone in the Jays organization pay Dan Plesac off? The man is the biggest Jays fan at MLB-N. Just today he declared the Jays his choice to win the AL East and Josh Donaldson is his MVP.

**Master Live 013** · 02-18-2015, 11:03 PM

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Well, that isn't that far fetched.

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