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Baseball is dying.
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I believe the pace of play of the sport is only a problem because they keep saying that it is a problem. This is going to be a stupid statement, but if nobody made a fuss about it, then nobody would be making a fuss about it.
I've heard people say "baseball is boring," and although I disagree I never thought it to be regarding the pace of play, but their idea of the sport in and of itself. That's totally their prerogative if they believe that, and I don't think we should try and change our sport to accommodate them. I don't think increasing this is helping anybody, really. Just hurting the fans who already like watching it, especially at the ballpark itself.
That automatic walk is a travesty. First time I saw it at a live ballpark (Mother's Day last year), I was totally shamefaced... almost embarrassed and trying to act apologetically to my mom about what happened and the rule. She was bamboozled about what was happening on the field since nobody on the ground explained it.
Yes. the replay system for "taking a body part off the bag" is totally destroying the spirit of the rule.Last edited by Blzer; 02-24-2018, 01:21 PM.Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60Comment
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Y'all remember how amazing the World Series was?
Just sitting here reminiscing about Games 2 & 5.Boston Red Sox
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As someone who likes looking back in history that's pretty awesome that you got to peruse a baseball magazine from that time period. Boy, that writer would be screaming like Peter Finch in Network if he saw how long some games are today LOL!
Those were some of the best games ever yet, I recall the day after some in the media were pouting and complaining about how long the games were and herein lies the problem with the whole pace of play issue. A lot of people (including the commissioner) seem to equate pace of play exclusively with time of the game. That's a large part of the puzzle indeed BUT it's not that black and white. As we saw last fall games can be pretty damn long but still exciting as hell. The issue is not strictly about the time it takes to play the game but the pace at which the game moves. If you have a game that is moving at a regular clip and isn't bogged down by ritualization by hitters at the plate or excessive dawdling by pitchers, not to mention excessively long replays then I think we can all be content with a 4+ hr game.
The commissioner and media are pushing the idea that the only way the game can be entertaining is if it's played within a 3 hr window at most. I'm sorry folks, this isn't a TV show. Baseball is a sport without a clock and it can go as fast or as slow as the pace dictates. Some of the pace of play ideas are actually good though (hitters staying in the box, shorter commercial breaks, getting pitchers to pitch in a rhythm even if it means having a dreaded clock in there) but either they aren't enforced or the rule will never see the light of day due to kvetching by the Union.
I guess we'll see what happens especially with this mound visits thing.Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club
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I think that if a player is safe initially but their foot comes off the bag for 1 second, he should be safe so I agree. Of course...
Then we'd disgress into the "is he in the area, is he off the area" type of scenario, like the NFL did with the catch rule.Originally posted by Gibson88Comment
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He spent seemingly the entire game criticizing what was happening, mocking visits to the mound and pitching changes and late game stuff. It was really obnoxious and it was a national broadcast if I remember correctly. Like dude, the country is watching and all you can do is **** on the sport?
It was like that Yankees/Cubs extra innings game that was on Sunday Night Baseball. Good grief that was infuriating.
Baseball needs to get rid of the slide rule, the home plate rule, and the tag rule. Less obfuscation and confusion will serve the sport best, unlike what the NFL has done. I had to spend 20 min last week explaining to my uncle why the two touchdowns at the end of the Super Bowl were actually clear cut no doubt whatsoever catches and touchdowns.Last edited by TheMatrix31; 02-25-2018, 03:21 AM.Comment
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Thanks for the explanation Matrix. Much appreciated.
And I agree.
Replay reviews are hurting every sport.
Fans don't even know if they should celebrate when anything happens anymore.
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What is the tag rule?
The home plate and slide rules are the same as every other level of baseball, and it hasn't been an issue since about a month after they were instituted. People are blowing this stuff way out of proportion.
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The "holding the tag through" blah blah whatever stuff.
Way too much controversy and nitpicking. Way too much scrutiny. Seemed like the same sorta thing came into play dozens of times last year. It's a joke. Talk about drawing and keeping new fans. They tune in and see that **** and they think "what the **** is this muddled garbage?"
Cubs were involved in a high profile home plate rule and a tag rule in the playoffs last year, if you recall. They come into play way, way, way too often. The rules and the subsequent requirement of interpretation are numerous, tedious and absurd and go against everything baseball is. I don't care what level they're in place in. You look at something and say "oh he's out" or "oh he's safe" and anyone can see that and someone comes in and is like ACTUALLLLLLLLLLLLYYYY.
It's just nonsensical. Less nonsense por favor.Last edited by TheMatrix31; 02-25-2018, 08:33 PM.Comment
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The big difference (and I know you know this) is that in the MLB it can be reviewed and scrutinized to death.
In college umpires tend to go with their gut and get it right a majority of the time.
I don't really think it's fair to compare a rule between leagues when in one it can be reviewed versus another that it can't be reviewed.Comment
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Well no, I don't hate reviews. I think pretty much everything should be reviewable. I just think the "oh he's blocking the path!" "oh his foot came off for a tenth of a second!" "oh he slid too hard!" nonsense needs to go.
Review should be a corrective measure more than an interpretive measure.Comment
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So it's the review of the rule, not the rule itself. The play you're talking about in the Cubs game was called correctly on the field if I remember right and review supported that.
My point is that everyone was up in arms about the plate rule after it was instituted about how it was ruining the game, then the players adjusted and now it's pretty much an afterthought. We see a review of it maybe once per week throughout baseball. It's just not that big of a deal except when people want to complain about how the game is changing.
I guess, but again, how often are those calls overturned because of a review? I know with 2 and 3 man crews, the umpires can rarely even see those kinds of plays so I doubt the rule is even thought about unless it's egregious (which is what it seems to be like at the MLB level, too, despite the ability to slow it down and scrutinize it through replay).
It sounds like people are upset about them being reviewable rather than the rules themselves.
I just think the people that complain all about the changes are as guilty of hyperbole and exaggeration as the people complaining about the need for changes.Comment
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