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  • ILLCHILL
    MVP
    • Feb 2004
    • 2820

    #1891
    Re: Boston Red Sox - 2006

    Im speaking in total honesty, I feel more comfortable when Manny goes after a ball that is hit over his head than when Crisp, Pena, Nixon, or Kapler do. He always makes that catch, and has a cannon. He also plays the wall near-flawlessly. When compared to most guys with his type of run-production, his defense is very very good.

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    • Stu
      All Star
      • Jun 2004
      • 7924

      #1892
      Re: Boston Red Sox - 2006

      Linebrink, Burrell, Lugo mentioned
      The Globe's Gordon Edes threw another name into the trading hat today: San Diego relief pitcher Scott Linebrink. But Edes also said that Linebrink (6-2, 3.72 ERA) was so valuable to the Padres that it would be difficult for them to trade him. In other news on the Red Sox rumor front, the Boston Herald is reporting a rumor that would have the Sox acquiring both Jon Lieber and Pat Burrell from the Phillies, according to an American League scout. In addition, the Tampa Tribune is reporting that the Red Sox, along with the Mets and Blue Jays, have inquired about shortstop Julio Lugo.
      Am I the only one that doesn't want anything to do with Julio Lugo? This guy has Edgar Renteria written all over him. He is consistently above 20 errors a year at SS and on pace for the same this year. Granted, he's a good offensive player but Alex Gonzalez has been solid at the plate over the last two months.

      I wouldn't mind getting Burrell and/or Lieber, although it would probably mean Nixon going the other way.
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      • Thrasha
        MVP
        • Nov 2004
        • 3374

        #1893
        Re: Boston Red Sox - 2006

        Burrell, eh?

        No thanks.

        Other than the lack of power, Nixon has done pretty well aside from his recent slump.

        Plus he might be able to be had for cheap at the end of the year.
        “Nobody in the history of the game tried what I just tried. We’re talking about on the biggest stage, in New York, playing out of position and asked to hit fourth for the New York Yankees. I mean, that’s never been done.” - Sheffield on Sheffield

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        • Stu
          All Star
          • Jun 2004
          • 7924

          #1894
          Re: Boston Red Sox - 2006

          Originally posted by Thrasha
          Burrell, eh?

          No thanks.

          Other than the lack of power, Nixon has done pretty well aside from his recent slump.

          Plus he might be able to be had for cheap at the end of the year.
          If nothing else, Nixon gets you an extra draft pick at the end of the year. I honestly can't think rationally about any trades involving Nixon. I know it doesn't make sense in today's game, but it's tough to see a guy you've watched since he was a prospect leave the organization.
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          • deeman11747
            G-M*nnnn
            • Feb 2003
            • 3194

            #1895
            Re: Boston Red Sox - 2006

            Originally posted by camulos
            Am I the only one that doesn't want anything to do with Julio Lugo? This guy has Edgar Renteria written all over him. He is consistently above 20 errors a year at SS and on pace for the same this year. Granted, he's a good offensive player but Alex Gonzalez has been solid at the plate over the last two months.

            I wouldn't mind getting Burrell and/or Lieber, although it would probably mean Nixon going the other way.
            Wjhy would you guys need another SS? From what I've seen of Gonzalez he's been fantastic in the field and decent at the plate. He looks like Orlando Cabrera all over again minus some pop in his bat.

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            • Stu
              All Star
              • Jun 2004
              • 7924

              #1896
              Re: Boston Red Sox - 2006

              Originally posted by deeman11747
              Wjhy would you guys need another SS? From what I've seen of Gonzalez he's been fantastic in the field and decent at the plate. He looks like Orlando Cabrera all over again minus some pop in his bat.
              No clue. Gonzalez has been spectacular in the field with only 4 errors and countless highlight reel plays. He's also been very good at the plate over the last couple months. (.896 OPS in June, .833 in July so far) It just doesn't make sense to get a guy who has the same weaknesses that prompted us to get rid of Edgar Renteria.
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              • deeman11747
                G-M*nnnn
                • Feb 2003
                • 3194

                #1897
                Re: Boston Red Sox - 2006

                Originally posted by Thrasha
                Burrell, eh?

                No thanks.

                Other than the lack of power, Nixon has done pretty well aside from his recent slump.

                Plus he might be able to be had for cheap at the end of the year.
                Plus Nixon is 30th in the league in OPS and has a 15.8 VORP ahead of guys like Helton and Edmonds.

                And that will end my stat geekiness for the day.

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                • Stu
                  All Star
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 7924

                  #1898
                  Re: Boston Red Sox - 2006

                  Originally posted by deeman11747
                  Plus Nixon is 30th in the league in OPS and has a 15.8 VORP ahead of guys like Helton and Edmonds.

                  And that will end my stat geekiness for the day.
                  The only bad thing about Nixon is he's been slumping for about a month. His HR last night was his first since June 9th and his first extra base hit since June 27th. He's hitting .194/.307/.242 in July so far. Despite the slump though, his OBP is still over.400 for the season and he still has a respectable .841 OPS.
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                  • ILLCHILL
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 2820

                    #1899
                    Re: Boston Red Sox - 2006

                    Lieber is the only one of those three names I'd think about, and thats only because he's a SP.

                    Why would you get Burrel when you have Kapler, capable of being a everyday player for most teams, and Willy Mo, we all know what he can do, on the club. Why go outside the team for pieces you already have?

                    Lugo is ridiculous. We have Gonzalez, the best defensive player I have ever seen for the Red Sox, maybe on any team (Jim Edmonds). Plus, with that defense, a .250, 7 HR, 60 RBI woulda be accepted. To say he has been hitting the ball well the last couple months would be an understatement, he's been mashing it. To get his average up to what it is form what it was takes a helluva lotta hits.

                    So maybe, maybe Lieber. But only if he can be had for cheap.

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                    • Misfit
                      All Star
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 5766

                      #1900
                      Re: Boston Red Sox - 2006

                      The Sox don't need another shortstop and I don't think they are honestly considering benching or moving Gonzalez who has the inside track on the gold glove right now and has more homeruns than Derek Jeter.

                      Lieber would get killed in the AL, and Burrell is bad news. You wanna talk about unclutch, Burrel is a .243 hitter with runners in scoring position and a .135 hitter with runners in scoring position and 2 outs. Plus he probably would play a terrible right field at Fenway. The Red Sox already have a younger Pat Burrell on their roster, and his name is Wily Mo.

                      I honestly think that if the Red Sox are pursuing most of the names we've heard it is just to drive up their price. We know Toronto wants Julio Lugo and the Yankees are searching for a corner outfielder with power. That and most trade rumors are just speculation on the part of the writer. I think the only reason we see the Red Sox being attached to Lugo is because they were interested in the off-season.

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                      • Stu
                        All Star
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 7924

                        #1901
                        Re: Boston Red Sox - 2006

                        The Big Hurt is killing us today. Hopefully with Wells coming back, this is Snyder's last outing for the Red Sox.
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                        • TheGenius
                          The World's Smartest Man
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 1590

                          #1902
                          Re: Boston Red Sox - 2006

                          Snyder looked great for 3 innings today, then completely fell apart (Thanks a lot to the Big Hurt). Mirabelli also still looks so lost at the plate it's not even funny. When Orsillo says he's been improving his average but is still under .200...ouch.

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                          • Misfit
                            All Star
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 5766

                            #1903
                            Re: Boston Red Sox - 2006

                            I think its time to say goodbye to the Kyle Snyder experiment. He just doesn't appear to have what it takes to be a starter in the AL right now.

                            The Sox looked like a team ready to head home today as they were pretty swing-happy at the plate and never got into a rhythm. They're probably looking forward to having an off-day tomorrow.

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                            • Dispatch
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 2339

                              #1904
                              Re: Boston Red Sox - 2006

                              Ok so no game tommorow gives us time to talk about the trade deadline . What do you guys think the Red Sox do?? Personally I think all the Julio Lugo talks are just to drive up the price because I think Alex Gonzalez is doing an excelent job of playing SS and even at the plate. The only thing I think the Sox need is starting pitching, but I wouldn't be surprised if they trade Nixon considering it is his contract year and we have Willy Mo to take his place.

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                              • TheGenius
                                The World's Smartest Man
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 1590

                                #1905
                                Re: Boston Red Sox - 2006

                                Originally posted by Cisco Kid
                                Ok so no game tommorow gives us time to talk about the trade deadline . What do you guys think the Red Sox do??
                                I hope they stand pat...I mean the offense and defense have been great and there's no real holes to plug there. Bullpen has been shaky but has been OK lately and with MDC and Hansen playing a more vital part they're looking up. The starting pitching has had some problems. Lester has looked pretty good, but has probably been overperforming. The Johnson and Snyder experiments have been failing but if we can get anything out of Clement, Wells, or Wake down the stretch it'll be a big boost. Unless there's a great deal to be had, just sit with the team we've got now.

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