Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

[TheTruth916]

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Are you guys even looking forward to watching this team this year?

I am for sure, I like this team over last years to a degree

[dce1228]

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Congrats to Josh Barfield, the starting second-baseman for the 2006 San Diego Padres. I would've loved to watch him for another season.

[TheTruth916]

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Congrats to Josh Barfield, the starting second-baseman for the 2006 San Diego Padres. I would've loved to watch him for another season.

Dude was just nails from the start. I am happy he won, he deserved every bit of it.

[Kelverin]

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I am for sure, I like this team over last years to a degree

Could it be worse? Last years team was painful to watch. Even more painful than those 80 - 90+ loss teams in the late 90's early 2000's. At least those games/teams where fun to watch.

[TheTruth916]

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Could it be worse? Last years team was painful to watch. Even more painful than those 80 - 90+ loss teams in the late 90's early 2000's. At least those games/teams where fun to watch.

Could it be worse? No, I don't think so. In my opinion they may be better. I also believe this team will be fun to watch this year unlike last years.

[rsox]

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The Royals claimed Steve Andrade off waivers today, and with Jon Adkins and Ryan Meaux being assigned to minor league camp the Padres bullpen appears to be shaping up as:

RHP Dewon Brazleton
RHP Scott Cassidy
LHP Alan Embree
RHP Clay Hensley
RHP Trevor Hoffman
RHP Scott Linebrink
RHP Brian Sweeney

Cassidy and Sweeney seem to have snuck their way into the Pads pen, and i believe Brazleton will start the year in the pen as the long man but will be in the rotation by midseason.

[TheTruth916]

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The Royals claimed Steve Andrade off waivers today, and with Jon Adkins and Ryan Meaux being assigned to minor league camp the Padres bullpen appears to be shaping up as:

RHP Dewon Brazleton
RHP Scott Cassidy
LHP Alan Embree
RHP Clay Hensley
RHP Trevor Hoffman
RHP Scott Linebrink
RHP Brian Sweeney

Cassidy and Sweeney seem to have snuck their way into the Pads pen, and i believe Brazleton will start the year in the pen as the long man but will be in the rotation by midseason.

Dewon will not be in the pen. No way, He locked himself up in the rotation with his spring numbers and todays outing.

Chan Ho or Williams are ticketed to the pen. Cassidy was solid for the time being.. I don't know how sweeney got on.

Also Padres aquired Bullpen help today when they traded 2 minor leaguers for Philadelphia Phillies right-hander Aquilino Lopez who in 10 games last year was 0-1, 2.13 ERA

[rsox]

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Chan Ho will not be in the bullpen and there are 15 million reasons why-all of them dollars. Maybe Woody then, but it's been a long time since Williams has pitched out of the pen. Since 1995 Williams has only made 3 releif appearences. As i said i believe Brazelton will be in the rotation at some point (Park is bound to get injured, Williams could struggle or be realeased).

[TheTruth916]

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Chan Ho will not be in the bullpen and there are 15 million reasons why-all of them dollars. Maybe Woody then, but it's been a long time since Williams has pitched out of the pen. Since 1995 Williams has only made 3 releif appearences. As i said i believe Brazelton will be in the rotation at some point (Park is bound to get injured, Williams could struggle or be realeased).

After todays performance... 3.1 innings, 1 Hit....an ERA of 1.17 ERA has moved him into the #4 spot if anything. hes not ticketed to the Pen thats almost a given now.

So then If not Chan then its a given and it will be Woody Williams heading to the pen.

[BatsareBugs]

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Chan Ho will not be in the bullpen and there are 15 million reasons why-all of them dollars. Maybe Woody then, but it's been a long time since Williams has pitched out of the pen. Since 1995 Williams has only made 3 releif appearences. As i said i believe Brazelton will be in the rotation at some point (Park is bound to get injured, Williams could struggle or be realeased).

Chan Ho Park has been considered being turned into a reliever, but Bochy has stated he'll be one of the starters. Chris Young has also had Bochy's support so he'll be in the rotation. Jake Peavy in the rotation is a no brainer as well as Shawn Estes (I haven't heard much about him in ST... maybe that's a good thing), but Woody Williams, who was a prime canidate for the 5th spot in the rotation (no particular order) has pitched his way out of it in ST while Dewon Brazelton has been pretty much Peavy-like in ST. The bullpen will consist of six pitchers to being the year.

Woody Williams barring a catastrophic breakdown on Brazelton's part will be the long reliever.
Trevor Hoffman
Scott Linebrink
Clay Hensley
Alan Embree
Scott Cassidy

A seventh reliever may join the team if:

1) Klesko does require surgery and lands on the DL.
2) A position player goes on the DL.
3) Adrian Gonzalez gets sent back down.
4) A bench player gets released.

[bkrich83]

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It's pretty much been known, unless Brazelton meltsdown this last week, he's in the rotation.

However, with this bullpen, how can anyone believe this team will be better?

First Base has me worried. Klesko is already hurt from what I gather, Gonzalez has a nice glove, but doesn't appear ready to hit at the Major League level.

Chris Young, he's sure looking like a good pickup in the Eaton Deal.

This team is a mess, has no apparent direction, and on top of getting worse has also gotten much older, with little help in the farm system. I see another prolonged era of 90 loss teams coming.

[BatsareBugs]

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It's pretty much been known, unless Brazelton meltsdown this last week, he's in the rotation.

However, with this bullpen, how can anyone believe this team will be better?

First Base has me worried. Klesko is already hurt from what I gather, Gonzalez has a nice glove, but doesn't appear ready to hit at the Major League level.

Chris Young, he's sure looking like a good pickup in the Eaton Deal.

This team is a mess, has no apparent direction, and on top of getting worse has also gotten much older, with little help in the farm system. I see another prolonged era of 90 loss teams coming.

Since you've been around with baseball longer than me you do know fly ball pitchers get eaten up in Arizona with the wind blowing out and the thin air (Clay Hensley is also struggling for the same reason as Chris Young, but I believe Chris Young has been working on certain pitches which may throw off people). Now I'll be interested in seeing Chris Young's past ST performances with the Rangers since they too are in the Cactus League. Meanwhile Adam Eaton has a 8.10 ERA and only 6.2 innings pitched.

And with the bullpen last year there is no way it can be better this year. We had either a great year or good year from almost every reliever in the bullpen (Paul Quantrill, Clay Hensley, Rudy Seanez, Akinori Otsuka, Trevor Hoffman, Scott Linebrink, Chris Hammond and even Dennys Reyes did pretty well). You have to admit it's pretty hard to keep a very good bullpen when relievers are inconsistent with their seasons. One season they look like a potential closer and the next season they're just absolute gas cans.

The Padres would be better off playing Adrian Gonzalez. His production would match what we can expect from an injured Klesko.

As for the team, I don't want to sound like an apologist, but if you've been following you'd get the sense that while they're trying to win the division with aged veterans in Mike Piazza, Vinny Castilla, and Mike Cameron, they also set themselves up for a transition year if option A fails, as many of these players that will be on the team this season will be free agents next year (Castilla, Williams, Klesko, Park, Roberts, and possibly Cameron pending on if his option is exercised or not). Not to mention there are starting pitchers that could find themselves in future plans in Jared Wells, Sean Thompson, Tim Stauffer, and Cesar Carrillo (Carrillo is the only one starting in AA, everyone else is in AAA), Outfielder Ben Johnson, who would've had a starting job in RF had Giles not re-signed who most likely will be the LF in 2007 if Dave Roberts is released. 1st Basemens Adrian Gonzalez, Walter Young and Kyle Blanks (Blanks is a couple of years away and Young looks to be a potential trading chip.), 3rd Basemen Chase Headley, who may require the Padres to plug in another stop-gap third basemen in 2007 as he may not be ready by then, and Catchers George Kottaras, Nick Hundley, and Colt Morton. And I'm not getting this from the PR-hype machine. This is my opinion and of course I've had expectations for previous prospects that have fizzled out in the past.

With Grady Fuson now in charge of Minor League scouting/drafting and Sandy Alderson at the helm (Kevin Towers has to get Alderson's approval now) with his philosophy, the Padres depending on what Moores does after this season with the payroll are poised for something better than the 90's era firesales and laughingstock seasons.

Just for the record I still think this team could've been better if better choices were made a couple of years back. I'm ready to bash this team if they are absolutely horrible regardless of their record like last season but if they meet my expectations (which are again this season pretty high), then I've got nothing to complain about unless they choke up a chance at another division title if they're successful.

[bkrich83]

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Since you've been around with baseball longer than me you do know fly ball pitchers get eaten up in Arizona with the wind blowing out and the thin air (Clay Hensley is also struggling for the same reason as Chris Young, but I believe Chris Young has been working on certain pitches which may throw off people). Now I'll be interested in seeing Chris Young's past ST performances with the Rangers since they too are in the Cactus League. Meanwhile Adam Eaton has a 8.10 ERA and only 6.2 innings pitched.

And with the bullpen last year there is no way it can be better this year. We had either a great year or good year from almost every reliever in the bullpen (Paul Quantrill, Clay Hensley, Rudy Seanez, Akinori Otsuka, Trevor Hoffman, Scott Linebrink, Chris Hammond and even Dennys Reyes did pretty well). You have to admit it's pretty hard to keep a very good bullpen when relievers are inconsistent with their seasons. One season they look like a potential closer and the next season they're just absolute gas cans.

The Padres would be better off playing Adrian Gonzalez. His production would match what we can expect from an injured Klesko.

As for the team, I don't want to sound like an apologist, but if you've been following you'd get the sense that while they're trying to win the division with aged veterans in Mike Piazza, Vinny Castilla, and Mike Cameron, they also set themselves up for a transition year if option A fails, as many of these players that will be on the team this season will be free agents next year (Castilla, Williams, Klesko, Park, Roberts, and possibly Cameron pending on if his option is exercised or not). Not to mention there are starting pitchers that could find themselves in future plans in Jared Wells, Sean Thompson, Tim Stauffer, and Cesar Carrillo (Carrillo is the only one starting in AA, everyone else is in AAA), Outfielder Ben Johnson, who would've had a starting job in RF had Giles not re-signed who most likely will be the LF in 2007 if Dave Roberts is released. 1st Basemens Adrian Gonzalez, Walter Young and Kyle Blanks (Blanks is a couple of years away and Young looks to be a potential trading chip.), 3rd Basemen Chase Headley, who may require the Padres to plug in another stop-gap third basemen in 2007 as he may not be ready by then, and Catchers George Kottaras, Nick Hundley, and Colt Morton. And I'm not getting this from the PR-hype machine. This is my opinion and of course I've had expectations for previous prospects that have fizzled out in the past.

With Grady Fuson now in charge of Minor League scouting/drafting and Sandy Alderson at the helm (Kevin Towers has to get Alderson's approval now) with his philosophy, the Padres depending on what Moores does after this season with the payroll are poised for something better than the 90's era firesales and laughingstock seasons.

Just for the record I still think this team could've been better if better choices were made a couple of years back. I'm ready to bash this team if they are absolutely horrible regardless of their record like last season but if they meet my expectations (which are again this season pretty high), then I've got nothing to complain about unless they choke up a chance at another division title if they're successful.

I understand you're optimistic. You haven't been a Padres fan for long. You still can't possibly think moving Young for Eaton is a good thing.

All those players are FA's next year, so what? The Padres won't spend any money in the market to fill their shoes. They get a bunch of vets past their prime for discount or go through their usual run of minor leaguers not ready for the show. Not like we haven't seen that for the better part of a decade. Then what more "transitional years?"

The farm system is bare. Only Carillo is consdered a top notch pitching prospect, and when was the last time they really developed a top notch pitcher not named Peavy? How many Matt Clement's do we have to go through. There is next to zero positional talent on the farm also.

Bad team, bad organization, and it's time for them to quit leaning in 1998 as justification for their jobs. This team is old, getting worse, and has very little young talent in development.

Yes Ben Johnson would have started. So what? How many teams in the league do you think Johnson would actually have a chance to start for? Nevertheless make the final 25.

[TheTruth916]

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Shawn Estes is slotted as the #2 spot. Hes had a good spring.

To my knowledge they will send Adrian Gonzalez back down to Triple A even though he has spoken out that he doesn't think it will help him.

If Klesko is indeed hurt then the job needs to go to the big man "Walter Young" Hes hitting better then Adrain and has pretty good Defense.

You can't look at pitchers stats in the Catcus league its natorious for killing pitchers.

Adrain is all glove and no bat. Atleast Klesko is a pretty good defensive 1st base despite what a lot of people say. Klesko would bring you a .260 clip with 60 RBI.....Adrain would be lucky to bat .260 and drive in 40 RBI

I honestly believe this team is better then last years. Yes they are older but, they can still play.

Cameron has just been the old Cameron..***nning, hitting, Defense.....Hes the best pickup that the padres did this off season. Nady is a huge bust and a waste of talent. We won on that front.

Mike Piazza seems to be back but, alittle older granted. He can still swing the bat, the only negative out of him is that he can't throw out a person in a little league park.

Vinny will bat .260 which would be ok. Can't except a lot out of him but, his veteran leadership.

Chase Headley is still a few years away. George Kottaras I believe will be a september call-up and you will see him next season as the Backstop for the padres.

I agree with you Rags that I will bash this team if they are horrible but, I don't see it. Maybe its just me because I have faith in what I am seeing.


Now BK ( Your post, I don't want to qoute)

I belive Eaton for Young is a good trade. Eaton had a 4+ ERA in Petco, A Pitchers park. Hes now in Texas he is going to get beaten up, ERA should be around 5+. Youngs ERA in a hitters park and league had an ERA of 4 so his ERA should dip into the 3s and Young is younger to my knowledge.

I agree the farm system is pretty bare but, Fuson is improving that right now.

[bkrich83]

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Shawn Estes is slotted as the #2 spot. Hes had a good spring.

To my knowledge they will send Adrian Gonzalez back down to Triple A even though he has spoken out that he doesn't think it will help him.

If Klesko is indeed hurt then the job needs to go to the big man "Walter Young" Hes hitting better then Adrain and has pretty good Defense.

You can't look at pitchers stats in the Catcus league its natorious for killing pitchers.

Adrain is all glove and no bat. Atleast Klesko is a pretty good defensive 1st base despite what a lot of people say. Klesko would bring you a .260 clip with 60 RBI.....Adrain would be lucky to bat .260 and drive in 40 RBI

I honestly believe this team is better then last years. Yes they are older but, they can still play.

Cameron has just been the old Cameron..***nning, hitting, Defense.....Hes the best pickup that the padres did this off season. Nady is a huge bust and a waste of talent. We won on that front.

Mike Piazza seems to be back but, alittle older granted. He can still swing the bat, the only negative out of him is that he can't throw out a person in a little league park.

Vinny will bat .260 which would be ok. Can't except a lot out of him but, his veteran leadership.

Chase Headley is still a few years away. George Kottaras I believe will be a september call-up and you will see him next season as the Backstop for the padres.

I agree with you Rags that I will bash this team if they are horrible but, I don't see it. Maybe its just me because I have faith in what I am seeing.


Now BK ( Your post, I don't want to qoute)

I belive Eaton for Young is a good trade. Eaton had a 4+ ERA in Petco, A Pitchers park. Hes now in Texas he is going to get beaten up, ERA should be around 5+. Youngs ERA in a hitters park and league had an ERA of 4 so his ERA should dip into the 3s and Young is younger to my knowledge.

I agree the farm system is pretty bare but, Fuson is improving that right now.

How many games are we expecting out of Cameron, Piazza and the rest of the grey hair crew?

Eaton is just entering a pitchers prime. As has been said time and time again. I keep reading about Young getting Dead arm towards the end of the season also.

As I said horribly run organiztion, with few prospects for the future.

Agreed on Gonzalez, he looks like JT Snow to me, all glove, no bat for a corner infielder. We'll see on Young, I want to see him hit when the lights are on against bona fide major league pitching.

If this team had a good track record, I woiuld be inclined to keep the faith. But lets face it, for the last 3 decades it's been worse a hell of a lot more than it's been better. I want to see it on the field for once, I am sick and tired of seeing the same old thing year in and year out. And they look to be following that exact same pattern again this year.

They aren't a huge market team, I get that. But wasn't the new park we all voted on, supposed to allow them some revenue to pay for players? And if they don't have the revenue, how bout for once, developing some homegrown talent? As I said, outside of Peavy, what legit productive major league pitchers have they developed? And positional players? Even worse. Khalil Greene and whom else?

I hope they prove me wrong, but this team stinks and looks to for some time. And I will not apologize for their bumblings any longer. Nor will I pay my hard earned money to see such a shoddy product on the field, especially when I can go to Anaheim, just as far away, and see a team, where the owner is at least making it look like he's attempting to win.