Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

[TheTruth916]

Re: Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

Cameron can still play 100+ Games. You act like he can't play? Cameron was one of the best Centerfielders in the game and still is IMO. Mike Piazza will play about 100 games if not 100 Games.

Adam Eaton is always going to have something wrong with him, oh and He got injured in today Padres games. He hurt the same finger that he hurt last season. So thanks for Chris Young Texas.

Klesko has been placed on the DL and Adrain will stay on the roster instead of being sent back down to Triple A. (Adrain also just hit a HR in the Padres/Texas Game and a double)

I was wondering the samething BK about the Revenue. I think Moores is like Dean Spanos...Lots of money but, just sits on it. Pathetic.

I don't think this team stinks and I just don't see it sucking for sometime.

I'd go to Anaheim over SD. I was born their and always have been an Angles fan first.

[BatsareBugs]

Re: Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

Just a heads up about Adam Eaton. He left today's spring training earlier than expected because of injury. I believe it is finger soreness but it could be something else.

[BatsareBugs]

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I was wondering the samething BK about the Revenue. I think Moores is like Dean Spanos...Lots of money but, just sits on it. Pathetic.

I wouldn't call putting $75 million into the team just sitting on it after increasing it from the $65 million the previous season. It's more like mismanagement on Kevin Towers part with that...

But still, I'd like to see a higher payroll.

[TheTruth916]

Re: Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

I wouldn't call putting $75 million into the team just sitting on it after increasing it from the $65 million the previous season. It's more like mismanagement on Kevin Towers part with that...

But still, I'd like to see a higher payroll.

Yeah, I agree

[bkrich83]

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Cameron can still play 100+ Games. You act like he can't play? Cameron was one of the best Centerfielders in the game and still is IMO. Mike Piazza will play about 100 games if not 100 Games.

Adam Eaton is always going to have something wrong with him, oh and He got injured in today Padres games. He hurt the same finger that he hurt last season. So thanks for Chris Young Texas.

Klesko has been placed on the DL and Adrain will stay on the roster instead of being sent back down to Triple A. (Adrain also just hit a HR in the Padres/Texas Game and a double)

I was wondering the samething BK about the Revenue. I think Moores is like Dean Spanos...Lots of money but, just sits on it. Pathetic.

I don't think this team stinks and I just don't see it sucking for sometime.

I'd go to Anaheim over SD. I was born their and always have been an Angles fan first.

I disagree on Spanos, he's always spent money. They just always spent it on the wrong players.

Eaton will be fine. Don't know if we'll be thanking Texas for Young when he gets dead arm again in July.

I don't see how you could possibly think this team will be any good with that lineup and that pitching staff, or with how dreadfully barren the farm system is they will get better any time soon.

And no Rags, All this increased spending on FA's we were promised when WE decided to foot the bill for Petco, have not been remotely met.

It's time to win now, or make major changes. I don't see either happening soon. Kevin Towers will continue to be the most overrated GM in baseball.

[TheTruth916]

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I disagree on Spanos, he's always spent money. They just always spent it on the wrong players.

Eaton will be fine. Don't know if we'll be thanking Texas for Young when he gets dead arm again in July.

I don't see how you could possibly think this team will be any good with that lineup and that pitching staff, or with how dreadfully barren the farm system is they will get better any time soon.

And no Rags, All this increased spending on FA's we were promised when WE decided to foot the bill for Petco, have not been remotely met.

It's time to win now, or make major changes. I don't see either happening soon. Kevin Towers will continue to be the most overrated GM in baseball.

Eaton will not be fine if he is going to continue to get hurt throwing offspeed or his curveball. He hurt his middle finger in yesterday's spring training game against the Pads in the 2nd inning. He will now miss 2 months of action.

2005 Catchers:
- Roman Hernandez
- Miguel Olivo

2006 Catchers:
- Mike Piazza
- Doug Mirabelli

We are better off with the catchers we have coming into this season at least will know that these guys will not quit on us like Roman did last year when the Pads needed him the most he was never there. Granted Roman had 2 big games, but it wasn't enough.

2005 Starting Position Players (excluded C):

1B: Phil Nevin
2B: Mark Loretta
3B: Joe Randa
SS: Kahlil Greene

2006 Starting position Players (excluded C):

1B: Klesko/Adrian Gonzalez
2B: Josh Barfield
3B: Vinny Castilla
SS: Kahlil Greene

So, going into this year for 1B that is a push or leaning towards the group we have this year as being better. Josh Barfield and Mark Loretta will end up being a push in my view, because Loretta was horrible coming back from his injury last year and it doesn't help when he's getting up there in age. Randa and Vinny are a push, but again it can lean towards Vinny this year as Randa hardly did anything for the Padres when he came over..the only thing he did well was his defense at 3rd.


2005 Starting OF:

LF: Ryan Klesko
CF: Dave Roberts
RF: Brian Giles

2006 Starting OF:

LF: Dave Roberts
CF: Mike Cameron
RF: Brian Giles

The OF this year is 10x better than what the Pads had last year. Not to mention Cameron will put up better OF numbers than Klesko would/did in the OF.

So, just by doing comparisons from last years team, this team as a chance to be a little better than what they were last year on offense.

2005 Starting Pitchers:

- Jake Peavy
- Adam Eaton
- Woody Williams
- BLaw
- Chan Ho Park

2006 Starting Pitchers:

- Jake Peavy
- Chris Young
- Dewon Brazelton
- Shawn Estes
- Woody Williams/Chan Ho Park

Eaton has a worse injury to worry about than a Dead Arm that young had, it has happened only 1 time in his career. Despite that the Rangers say he can't last a full 6 months because of a dead arm, Young still managed to pitch effective in that final month and a half. He finished with 196 IP. So, you know that Young will give you almost 200 innings and you can't be so sure if the dead arm will comeback this year.The Middle Finger of Eaton is more of a concern than the dead arm as Eaton can't even squeeze a baseball right now that is how bad the finger is, also if the injury came back already he's going to be in for a long season. Dewon Brazelton has shown control and good location all of spring training and might be a sleeper. He was a former #1 pick at one point who showed that in Spring...so I can't wait to see what he does in a regular season game. Estes is better than Blaw or that might be a push. So, again in the end the Pitching staff has a chance to also be better than what it was last year. The only question mark I have is the bullpen this year.

Yeah, the time now is to win. But also the Padres Payroll will never reach into the $80M. So the padres will always have to work with what they have. The Padres don't need to dip into the Farm System yet unless you want them to head into a rebuilding mode right now.

[bkrich83]

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Eaton will not be fine if he is going to continue to get hurt throwing offspeed or his curveball. He hurt his middle finger in yesterday's spring training game against the Pads in the 2nd inning. He will now miss 2 months of action.

2005 Catchers:
- Roman Hernandez
- Miguel Olivo

2006 Catchers:
- Mike Piazza
- Doug Mirabelli

We are better off with the catchers we have coming into this season at least will know that these guys will not quit on us like Roman did last year when the Pads needed him the most he was never there. Granted Roman had 2 big games, but it wasn't enough.

2005 Starting Position Players (excluded C):

1B: Phil Nevin
2B: Mark Loretta
3B: Joe Randa
SS: Kahlil Greene

2006 Starting position Players (excluded C):

1B: Klesko/Adrian Gonzalez
2B: Josh Barfield
3B: Vinny Castilla
SS: Kahlil Greene

So, going into this year for 1B that is a push or leaning towards the group we have this year as being better. Josh Barfield and Mark Loretta will end up being a push in my view, because Loretta was horrible coming back from his injury last year and it doesn't help when he's getting up there in age. Randa and Vinny are a push, but again it can lean towards Vinny this year as Randa hardly did anything for the Padres when he came over..the only thing he did well was his defense at 3rd.


2005 Starting OF:

LF: Ryan Klesko
CF: Dave Roberts
RF: Brian Giles

2006 Starting OF:

LF: Dave Roberts
CF: Mike Cameron
RF: Brian Giles

The OF this year is 10x better than what the Pads had last year. Not to mention Cameron will put up better OF numbers than Klesko would/did in the OF.

So, just by doing comparisons from last years team, this team as a chance to be a little better than what they were last year on offense.

2005 Starting Pitchers:

- Jake Peavy
- Adam Eaton
- Woody Williams
- BLaw
- Chan Ho Park

2006 Starting Pitchers:

- Jake Peavy
- Chris Young
- Dewon Brazelton
- Shawn Estes
- Woody Williams/Chan Ho Park

Eaton has a worse injury to worry about than a Dead Arm that young had, it has happened only 1 time in his career. Despite that the Rangers say he can't last a full 6 months because of a dead arm, Young still managed to pitch effective in that final month and a half. He finished with 196 IP. So, you know that Young will give you almost 200 innings and you can't be so sure if the dead arm will comeback this year.The Middle Finger of Eaton is more of a concern than the dead arm as Eaton can't even squeeze a baseball right now that is how bad the finger is, also if the injury came back already he's going to be in for a long season. Dewon Brazelton has shown control and good location all of spring training and might be a sleeper. He was a former #1 pick at one point who showed that in Spring...so I can't wait to see what he does in a regular season game. Estes is better than Blaw or that might be a push. So, again in the end the Pitching staff has a chance to also be better than what it was last year. The only question mark I have is the bullpen this year.

Yeah, the time now is to win. But also the Padres Payroll will never reach into the $80M. So the padres will always have to work with what they have. The Padres don't need to dip into the Farm System yet unless you want them to head into a rebuilding mode right now.

Actually they don't know how long Eaton will be back.. It may only be 3 weeks. Still take him over Chris Young.

As far as assesing this team, you're drinking way too much of the Towers kool-aide. The only reason this team even remotely has a chance to be competetive is because of how bad this division is, and even then it would be tough.

And we can't dip in to the farm system, as it's NON-EXISTENT. The Padres farm system is considered one of the worst in the league right now. They had 1, count'em 1 player on the last Baseball America Top 100 list I saw.

Again I ask, since no one wants to answer, name the last legit position player the Padres developed not named Khalill Greene, or the last legit pitcher not named Peavy?

With their track record, why blindly continue to believe the complete horsecrap Kevin Towers and Sandy Alderson continue to spew. Dave Roberts, Mike Cameron, Brian Giles. That's a good outfield to you? Yikes. You also realize Cameron is a lifetime .249 hitter don't you? Roberts would be a 4th outfielder on just about any team but the Padres.

[bkrich83]

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Yeah, the time now is to win. But also the Padres Payroll will never reach into the $80M. So the padres will always have to work with what they have.

That's part of the problem. They don't spend the money, yet that was exactly what was promised to us, around ballot time 1998.

[TheTruth916]

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Actually they don't know how long Eaton will be back.. It may only be 3 weeks. Still take him over Chris Young.

Sorry but, thats not true at all...He will miss up to 2 months maybe if hes lucky only a month

here are some links

Click Me article 1

Click Me article 2

[bkrich83]

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From Buck Showalter

"This could be long-term, but it could be a three-week thing," Showalter said. "I'm still hoping for the best."

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2390470

Front page of ESPN.com

[TheTruth916]

Re: Official San Diego Padres Thread - 2006

From Buck Showalter


http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2390470

Front page of ESPN.com

Thats a qoute from a coach..they are always praying its not as bad as it seems. Still says atleast a month not 3 weeks

Rangers | Eaton could miss up to three months
Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:13:41 -0800

Updating previous items, the Associated Press reports Texas Rangers SP Adam Eaton (finger) could be out of the team's rotation for one to three months with a strained tendon in the middle finger on his pitching hand. He was sidelined with the same injury last season.

Oh and Padres announced the rotation

1. Peavy
2. Estes
3. Young
4. Brazelton

Woody and Chan Ho Park are in the bullpen till April 13th and only one of them will be called on for the 5th spot.

[bkrich83]

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Thats a qoute from a coach..they are always praying its not as bad as it seems. Still says atleast a month not 3 weeks




Oh and Padres announced the rotation

1. Peavy
2. Estes
3. Young
4. Brazelton

Woody and Chan Ho Park are in the bullpen till April 13th and only one of them will be called on for the 5th spot.

Ok so a month instead of 3 weeks. Although I'll take the word of the manager over a beatwriter.

Nice rotation. Can you say 72-90.

[BatsareBugs]

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If you're going to take the coaches word, you're going to have to consider when he said " "This could be long-term". The only people that will know are the Rangers until more is given out but considering that it's flared up again I'm giving it just over a month before he's recovered from it.

And another thing. I guess we shouldn't watch this season anymore. Because BK is always right about his predictions and the Padres are only going to go 72-90 this year with a worse record than last year with a better team?

I'm sorry, but I'm not buying into the pessimist views nor am I buying into the optimistic view of this team. They'll do mediocre at best, but there is no way they're going to crash and burn and no way they're are going to be WS champs this year.

[BatsareBugs]

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Sorry but, thats not true at all...He will miss up to 2 months maybe if hes lucky only a month

here are some links

Click Me article 1

Click Me article 2

Is it ironic that the two starting pitchers that the Padres trade have gotten injured during Spring Training?

And I find it funny how we traded for Brazelton and Burroughs is no longer a starter. Brazelton hasn't had a chance to give us returns so Im not about to praise that move.

How about Cameron and Nady? Cameron sure has looked more impressive playing CF than Nady ever has. I gotta ask Mets fans if Nady is going to playing in more games than Diaz.

Maybe I would be pessimistic about the Padres if I didn't see a dramatic turnover that provided more talent than last year's team. Sure the bullpen isn't going to be as good as last season, but even if we kept Seanez and Hammonds I'd doubt they'd duplicate last season's performances.

People can say teams will be bad or good, but there's a reason why teams play the games instead of just forfeiting to the words of experts and analyst who already give the crown to some teams and the shovel of poo to another.

[bkrich83]

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If you're going to take the coaches word, you're going to have to consider when he said " "This could be long-term". The only people that will know are the Rangers until more is given out but considering that it's flared up again I'm giving it just over a month before he's recovered from it.

And another thing. I guess we shouldn't watch this season anymore. Because BK is always right about his predictions and the Padres are only going to go 72-90 this year with a worse record than last year with a better team?

I'm sorry, but I'm not buying into the pessimist views nor am I buying into the optimistic view of this team. They'll do mediocre at best, but there is no way they're going to crash and burn and no way they're are going to be WS champs this year.

It maybe right.

Again, rags, you aren't old enough to have been a Padre fan as long as I have. You weren't at the games in 93 when there were literally 4,000 fans at the games. You weren't a fan in '92 when they were 1 starting pitcher away from making the postseason, and they made zero moves.

4 POSTSEASON APPEARANCES in almost 40 years. With that track record, and their pencant for doing the same things year and year out why keep the faith? Plus you say there's no way they will be WS champs. Then why even bother with the season. If you aren't even going to attempt to win, why even bother. And that's where my problem is. This team isn't even trying to win games, they are trying to be mediocre to stay respectable, and that's no longer good enough for me.