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  • PhantomPain
    MVP
    • Jan 2003
    • 3512

    #601
    Re: "This one belongs to Reds fans" Official 2012 Cincinnati Reds

    After my last post I check the box score and low and behold, Stubbs 0-3 with 3k's. Yes, clearly he should continue to play.
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    • PhantomPain
      MVP
      • Jan 2003
      • 3512

      #602
      Re: "This one belongs to Reds fans" Official 2012 Cincinnati Reds

      Something else I saw today that I found interesting. As bad as Stubbs is, before today's game he was hitting .279 against left handers. Now with Dusty's love of platooning players, why not platoon him with Heisey or Paul? That way when Stubbs does play, it is against LH pitching and maybe he could actually contribute offensively? Heisey is batting .280 against RH pitchers. Of course he bats .275 against LH pitchers but if you have to play Stubbs, then put him in a position to be successful.

      BTW, Dusty has already said he isn't sitting Rolen for Frazier when Votto comes back.
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      • jake44np
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        • Jul 2002
        • 9563

        #603
        Re: "This one belongs to Reds fans" Official 2012 Cincinnati Reds

        Originally posted by PhantomPain
        After my last post I check the box score and low and behold, Stubbs 0-3 with 3k's. Yes, clearly he should continue to play.
        Ended up with a big hit late in the in game. 45-6 now when he scores.
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        • jake44np
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          • Jul 2002
          • 9563

          #604
          Re: "This one belongs to Reds fans" Official 2012 Cincinnati Reds

          Originally posted by PhantomPain
          Something else I saw today that I found interesting. As bad as Stubbs is, before today's game he was hitting .279 against left handers. Now with Dusty's love of platooning players, why not platoon him with Heisey or Paul? That way when Stubbs does play, it is against LH pitching and maybe he could actually contribute offensively? Heisey is batting .280 against RH pitchers. Of course he bats .275 against LH pitchers but if you have to play Stubbs, then put him in a position to be successful.

          BTW, Dusty has already said he isn't sitting Rolen for Frazier when Votto comes back.
          Paul isnt a center fielder.
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          • PhantomPain
            MVP
            • Jan 2003
            • 3512

            #605
            Re: "This one belongs to Reds fans" Official 2012 Cincinnati Reds

            Originally posted by jake44np
            Ended up with a big hit late in the in game. 45-6 now when he scores.
            And if he did something in the first 7 innings we wouldn't need his "big" hit. I'm sorry, Jake, but Stubbs sucks and likely wouldn't start for any other MLB team. You can talk about how great he is defensively and how his one big hit every 15 games made a difference until you are blue in the face, but I will never relent on the fact that I think he sucks and shouldn't be playing CF for the Reds. At least not on an everyday basis.

            If I had any motivation, I could throw together stats to show how many times his suckiness didn't help and how he has been a hinderence, but alas, I am too lazy for that.

            To be frank, I am literally beside myself that ANYONE would defend Stubbs being the everyday starting CF and batting at the top of the order.

            With that said, I respect your opinion. It just isn't the right one this time :wink:
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            • PhantomPain
              MVP
              • Jan 2003
              • 3512

              #606
              Re: "This one belongs to Reds fans" Official 2012 Cincinnati Reds

              Originally posted by jake44np
              Paul isnt a center fielder.
              Stubbs isn't a hitter.

              So don't platoon Paul with him. I guess in your mind, Heisey isn't good enough to take over the job either?
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              • jake44np
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                • Jul 2002
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                #607
                Re: "This one belongs to Reds fans" Official 2012 Cincinnati Reds

                Originally posted by PhantomPain
                Stubbs isn't a hitter.

                So don't platoon Paul with him. I guess in your mind, Heisey isn't good enough to take over the job either?
                Right now u are correct Heisey would be the better option over Stubbs.
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                • PhantomPain
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 3512

                  #608
                  Re: "This one belongs to Reds fans" Official 2012 Cincinnati Reds

                  Originally posted by jake44np
                  Right now u are correct Heisey would be the better option over Stubbs.
                  YES! We finally agree on something!!!!
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                  • jake44np
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                    • Jul 2002
                    • 9563

                    #609
                    Re: "This one belongs to Reds fans" Official 2012 Cincinnati Reds

                    Originally posted by PhantomPain
                    YES! We finally agree on something!!!!
                    No we both agree that Cal is a great college ball coach.

                    So will the reds try to turn billy Hamilton into a cf next year?
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                    • PhantomPain
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 3512

                      #610
                      Re: "This one belongs to Reds fans" Official 2012 Cincinnati Reds

                      Originally posted by jake44np
                      No we both agree that Cal is a great college ball coach.

                      So will the reds try to turn billy Hamilton into a cf next year?
                      Very true! As for Hamilton, I have read a few articles recently with the talk of him potentially coming up and one of them mentioned Jocketty saying he would possibly play other positions in the Fall League. It pretty much has to be CF though. I think and hope that if he works on it he can be average at worst. But we'll see. He definitely won't be a shortstop going on everything I've read about his fielding ability there.
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                      • redsrule
                        All Star
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 9396

                        #611
                        Re: "This one belongs to Reds fans" Official 2012 Cincinnati Reds

                        Latos in on a 6 game hitting streak.
                        As of now, I think our top 3 in the rotation can hang with the top teams, 4 & 5 are the ones that been very inconsistent. All in all, great sweep of Arizona and I'm very excited for Votto coming back Saturday. If you would have told me in April that they would have had the best record at this point with Votto missing this much time, I probably would have called you mean things :/
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                        • Buckeyes_Doc
                          In Dalton I Trust
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 11918

                          #612
                          Re: "This one belongs to Reds fans" Official 2012 Cincinnati Reds

                          Originally posted by redsrule
                          Latos in on a 6 game hitting streak.
                          As of now, I think our top 3 in the rotation can hang with the top teams, 4 & 5 are the ones that been very inconsistent. All in all, great sweep of Arizona and I'm very excited for Votto coming back Saturday. If you would have told me in April that they would have had the best record at this point with Votto missing this much time, I probably would have called you mean things :/
                          The Reds have decent hitting pitchers. Latos can hit and so can Leake.
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                          • slickdtc
                            Grayscale
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 17125

                            #613
                            Arroyo launches one every now and then as well.
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                            • Son of Sam99
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1307

                              #614
                              Re: "This one belongs to Reds fans" Official 2012 Cincinnati Reds

                              Originally posted by jake44np
                              No we both agree that Cal is a great college ball coach.
                              Not to get all technical on you but I think you meant to say Cal is a great college recruiter.
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                              • IowaAJ
                                Rookie
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 433

                                #615
                                Re: "This one belongs to Reds fans" Official 2012 Cincinnati Reds

                                You are overlooking his defense Stubbs is one of the best center fielders in the game rarely get's burned and has the speed to make all the plays. Obviously in a perfect world he would hit better but he gets on streaks good and bad. The Reds are a better team with Stubbs than without him.

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