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Gamel could be a great signing if healthy
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Did Sean Gilmartin not perform well in the minors? I thought he was one of the better prospects in the organization? If that is the case then it's kind of odd to trade him for another C/OF.Comment
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I think Doumit helps our bench tremendously. He allows Gattis to pinch hit if they platoon, and Pena, Schafer, and Laird are good pieces too. Doumot definitely upgrades the team. Gilmartin was never going to have higher value than last offseason again especially if he put up another 5 ERA at AAA.
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He didn't have enough power. If you look at his numbers, he is averaging close to 1 hit an inning, around 1.5 HR/9, and just isn't impressive. I watched him at FSU and if he wasn't locating well, he couldn't get people out. He has a good changeup, but the other pitches aren't great. The fastball has movement, but is too slow.
He may have been suffering some from aggressive bats in the minors, but he really wasn't living up to what the Braves wanted.Comment
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When did the NL start the DH position? That is what Mr. Doumit is.. He was an upcoming catcher for the Pirates, but the wheels feel off. He is disant catcher defensively.. He is a Big Papi downgrade at the plate. If Gilmartin was not worth the No.1 that is our organization fault. It took them 3 to 4 years to cut Teheran loose. That is a BS trade...
I was listening to GM Wren speak on a local sports talk radio today. He tried to his political spin on it keeps 3 catchers on the roster. Just Really. The guy was a part time catcher in 2yrs in Minnie.... Just Really
The Braves are starting to pissed me off. Dont make a move for the sake of just making a move. This is the best rebuilding job of an organization last year. They went young and won 96 games. They knew they were not going to sign Hudson and McCann getting younger, One of the best young roster in the Majors.Comment
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I like adding Doumit. He's a switch-hitting bat off the bench with a little pop. He's serviceable behind the plate and can play 1B or the corner OF if needed. Basically, he's Eric Hinske with the ability to play catcher every now and then. Gattis will still start and Laird will be the primary backup, I'm sure.
I'm not sure I like trading Gilmartin for him. He hasn't done much, but it seems too soon to cut bait. But then, as an organization, we tend to be pretty good at knowing when to unload prospects.Comment
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I like the trade a lot. Gilmartin has a lot more value to other teams than the Braves due to the Braves' ability to develop pitching. Sean was the 6th rated pitcher in the Braves system. And that's not including the five major leaguers, four of which are, what, 26 or under. And the other is 28. It doesn't matter where he was drafted. But with all the young pitching the Braves have, even at his ceiling, he'd have a hard time cracking the rotation.
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Can't say I know much about minor league baseball but I trust that given our reputation for developing pitchers, they simply must have seen Gilmartin as expendable.Comment
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Alright guys you're right. Gilmartin might not be who they thought he was, sort of speak. I guess if we didn't sign Gamel I would be fine with the Doumit move. I do think Doumit is a way better catcher than GattisComment
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It isn't that I have a problem with moving Gilmartin…it's what we got in return for him. A 32 year old defensive liability just doesn't strike me as helping our team. Someone mentioned he's our new Eric Hinske…that's fine, but give a throw away minor leaguer for that caliber of player instead of a 23 year old LHP."People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers HornsbyComment
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I'm sure they'd have liked to give away less, but that wouldn't have gotten the deal done. Doumit, barring injury to Gattis or Laird, probably won't catch much. So he's the backup 1b/corner of. He's a very good hitter. He's a valuable pinch hitter who can also fill in at multiple positions and hits for power with a decent obp. You aren't getting that for a "throwaway" minor leaguer. The Twins got a guy who, best case scenario for the Braves, was a #3 or 4 starter a few years down the line.
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Where we disagree is that Doumit is a 'good' hitter. When he was 27 he was putting up decent numbers, but he's been in decline (see his BB/K ratio). He'll be a fine addition, but it just frustrates me when I see us throw draft picks away like this."People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers HornsbyComment
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.275/.320/.461 with 18 hr isn't good? Because that was 2012. And 2011 was better. He's not an amazing hitter, but that's a great bench bat.
And how is this throwing away a pick? Where Gilmartin was drafted doesn't make a difference. They have plenty of pitching depth. Would you rather they trade someone better just because he was drafted lower? This is baseball, where a first round pick only has a 66% chance of even reaching the majors. So if you can get a solid major leaguer, why not? Because Gilmartin might one day be your 5th starter behind Teheran, Minor, Wood, and Sims?
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