2014 Cincinnati Reds Thread

[redsrule]

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Never forget the bum watching strike 3 called game 5 against Giants Gtfo

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Scott Rolen made a costly error against San Fran. Does that mean he is a bum too? Get out of here with that ****. Hanigan is an excellent game manager, look at the numbers of the staff between him and Mesoraco catching. It's night and day.

[redsrule]

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Lol jocketty continuing to prove me right he hasnt a clue

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They just got a decent guy that can fill in if a pitcher gets hurt next year. Much better option than Villareal or Reynolds. Not to mention they won't have to rush Stephenson into the big leagues. Decent return for a "bum".

[Dogslax41]

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Never forget the bum watching strike 3 called game 5 against Giants Gtfo

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Or that bum calling both of Homer's no hitters.

Bottom line is he is a fantastic catcher and an average to above average offensive player.

[HustlinOwl]

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Scott Rolen made a costly error against San Fran. Does that mean he is a bum too? Get out of here with that ****. Hanigan is an excellent game manager, look at the numbers of the staff between him and Mesoraco catching. It's night and day.

Look at offense night and day your point

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[Dogslax41]

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They just got a decent guy that can fill in if a pitcher gets hurt next year. Much better option than Villareal or Reynolds. Not to mention they won't have to rush Stephenson into the big leagues. Decent return for a "bum".

Holmberg is another lefty arm to compete. We'll see if Price can do something with him because he didn't impress in the debut last season.

[redsrule]

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Look at offense night and day your point

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No doubt he had a bad year offensively. That doesn't mean he still isn't worth a spot on a roster, especially when he is one of the BEST defensive catchers in baseball. The offense sucked because nobody could hit outside of Choo, Votto and Bruce.

[Dogslax41]

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Lol jocketty continuing to prove me right he hasnt a clue

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Hasn't a clue? That's just a flat out moronic statement. With the salary structure and roster makeup of this team he has been a magician. Do you see the middle market Reds putting playoff rosters together one year and then fire selling the next like most of the league? He single handed has undone all the damage Schott did to the farm system and Lindner's team did to the club's financials.

That Choo for Stubbs deal was a real headscratcher right. I mean the sky would have been the limit if he didn't make that move.

[TheShizNo1]

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Guys, ignore list is a lot easier than back and forth.

Sad to see Hanigan go.

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[HustlinOwl]

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Hasn't a clue? That's just a flat out moronic statement. With the salary structure and roster makeup of this team he has been a magician. Do you see the middle market Reds putting playoff rosters together one year and then fire selling the next like most of the league? He single handed has undone all the damage Schott did to the farm system and Lindner's team did to the club's financials.

That Choo for Stubbs deal was a real headscratcher right. I mean the sky would have been the limit if he didn't make that move.

Made it further with stubbs was a one year rental

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[HustlinOwl]

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Guys, ignore list is a lot easier than back and forth.

Sad to see Hanigan go.

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Nothing like drinking the koolaid and being a homer agreeing with every move god forbid having a different take

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[HustlinOwl]

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Hasn't a clue? That's just a flat out moronic statement. With the salary structure and roster makeup of this team he has been a magician. Do you see the middle market Reds putting playoff rosters together one year and then fire selling the next like most of the league? He single handed has undone all the damage Schott did to the farm system and Lindner's team did to the club's financials.

That Choo for Stubbs deal was a real headscratcher right. I mean the sky would have been the limit if he didn't make that move.

dont forget Didi was included in that deal and sure looks a lot better than Cozart right now

[Dogslax41]

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dont forget Didi was included in that deal and sure looks a lot better than Cozart right now

Not sure what you are looking at but Cozart's first MLB season smashed Didi's first (he almost doubled his WAR) and even struggling this season, Cozart's line was almost exactly the same as Didi's (higher WAR).

Stubbs might not even make Cleveland's team this year and was miserable.

Jockety took a player that was locked behind another and a flame out and traded them for an all star season that had players not slumped or hit injury issues (Votto, Broxton, Chapman, Marshall, Cozart, Frazier) could have been a tipping point in a playoff run.

Having a different take is one thing. Ignoring the tightrope that he has walked and what he has done to remake this roster and create a long term viable solution is another.

Hindsight 20/20 it would have been great to still have Didi and potentially be able to see if he can play second and get rid of Phillips, but you couldn't predict Phillips would have gone Chad Johnson this year. I still dont think you can count Choo as definately gone yet. More than likely yes but if we can get a hometown discount after shuffling some money...maybe.

[Dogslax41]

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With Granderson talking to the Mets about a three year deal I hope the Reds try to bring him in and play him in center this year to give Hamilton another year of minor league pitching and then move Granderson to left when Ludwick's deal is up after this year.

Would add some much much needed power, only issue is that gives you three lefty power bats that are an easy strategy in later innings. But they are left so you at least get the benefit of 70% of starting pitching being right handed.

[jasontoddwhitt]

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I personally love the deal. We pave the way for Devin Mesoraco to become the #1 catcher, we get a young lefty who we'll have six years of control, and we cut payroll.

Sad to see Hannigan go, but I feel it was time. Rays fans, you will enjoy him. He's one of the best defensive catchers in the game (right up there with the Molinas), and has a quality that the Mad Scientist will enjoy (he gets on base). He had a down year last year because of injury, but I think he'll bounce back next year.

As for Reds fans who are worried about the keys to the staff being handed to Devin, his catcher ERA was the same as Hanigan's last year (never was the case before), so I think Devin has gotten better at that aspect of the game.

The thing that excites me is getting Mesoraco's bat in the lineup more. When he was playing nearly everyday when Hanigan was on the DL, Mesoraco had his best stretch of the year.

I don't think we've seen the last of the moves.

[jake44np]

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dont forget Didi was included in that deal and sure looks a lot better than Cozart right now

Yeah thats why i just read that the DBacks are looking for a SS.