**The Official New York Yankees Thread**

[NYJets]

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Hopefully you're right, since I don't actually think he's going anywhere. There does appear to be young talent coming up, so hopefully we can be patient with them. Still think its a bad job to take this long to finally have a group of prospects knocking on the door, but whats done is done.

Disagree that you can't rebuild in New York. And assuming we don't turn things around soon I hope we seriously consider being sellers at the deadline.

[CMH]

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I don't know why people say you can't rebuild in New York.

Don't listen to what Lupica feeds fans. The Mets rebuilt and they are doing just fine in terms of attendance and success.

You can rebuild. The media thinks you can't. And any fans that walk away from the team do not concern me. The Yankees are probably the only team that can literally afford to rebuild. It wouldn't hurt them much at all considering how big their popularity.

[H8ter2]

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Your both right technically you can rebuild in NY, it just would be a nightmare media wise and I think that's why I put it that way, you can yes but it would be a nightmare day after day for x time it takes getting bombarded in media. With that said I never have and never will walk away from my Yankees, I sat through the very dismal years of the 80's and early 90's so I know how bad it can get.

Either way they go about it, I honestly feel like theirs a plan in place now, a legit one. Will it work only time will tell, fingers crossed it does

In another note this team is starting to show some life and coming off life support winning against good teams 3 series in a row now


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[DamnYanks2]

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I expect Teixera's bat to come alive here soon. I predict a homerun tomorrow. He did have a double today.

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[Rocket32]

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The problem is this plan you mention is not the first time it was the plan.

They've said before, we aren't spending, we aren't going to give guys big stupid contracts. And we are focused on youth.

Instead they gave up immediately on guys like Ian Kennedy, Austin Jackson, Cirvelli, and never fully supported Hughes (as if making him a reliever was some failure despite him being good at it) or Joba which was their own doing.

Then they went ahead and gave Beltran a contract and signed Ellsbury to a long dumb deal.

They've done good by keeping Gardner, betting on Headley (it hasn't worked out but it was a good idea), and making trades for guys like Eovaldi, Castro, Gregorious and Chapman.

It's just half foot in, half out. Need a commitment. And Counting your eggs on Harper is absolutely stupid.

I really don't think they are going back on that this time. They do actually seem focused on youth for real now. The Beltran deal hasn't been that bad, He still is very capable of producing and is so far and he isn't blocking anyone this year still. Judge is there but is he MLB ready yet? I would say no, not until next year or as a September call up this year and Beltran will be gone after this season. I will agree with you on the Ellsbury contract being terrible though. Plus you can still retool in the 2018 offseason with other guys except Harper. That's why that class is going to be so huge, many other guys will be out there along with Harper. Yes some will very likely end up extended before then but there's going to be plenty of talent like Machado, Fernandez, and Harvey.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Im not convinced that Cashman is the guy we need to retool our system honestly. He's great at low key trades for value guys (Castro, Prado, etc.) but how many players have we homegrown in his tenure? Cano, Gardner, Dellin? Im just not convinced. We had a magic trio of pitching prospects years ago (Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, Jobs) who were going to come up and anchor our rotation. Then it was the Killer B's (Brackman, Betances, Banuelos). Jesus Montero had a lot of hype and just died out. Austin Romine was well regarded at one point. I just am not totally convinced that Cashman (or whoever directly runs our system) is any good at finding or recognizing potential. Then we had an opportunity for just money (which we know yo the Yankees is damn near endless) and CHOSE not to sign a top prospect for nothing more than money. I don't know man, I like Cashman but I'm not sure he's a rebuilder. I guess we'll find out.

[DamnYanks2]

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Yes I have to admit, we didn't go hard enough after Moncada.

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[DieHardYankee26]

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"I definitely feel like I can be the ace, but right now I feel like that's not my role. I want to go out there and have good outings, and put together consistent outings." Eovaldi

Strange thing to say IMO, I guess I understand what he means, but on any given day it doesn't matter who the ace is, we only have one starting pitcher. That guy needs fo be an ace everyday. I just find it strange that he feels this way. Hardly the "alpha" mentality you hear about a lot of athletes having, seems like a guy who lacks confidence. Not sure this is the place for that guy lol. Maybe a couple more good outings in a row and he can start feeling himself a little bit, I feel like it's important to go out there and pitch with swagger and have no fear out there.

[Themayorofawsometown]

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I think eovaldi is saying he believes he can be the ace and wants it so he says this as a subtle way of saying hey I can be the ace but since I'm not I'm gonna do good in the meantime

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[DieHardYankee26]

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Knew the game was over after Donaldson, last years AL MVP, executed a sac bunt to move runners to 2nd and 3rd with 1 out and we got out of it unscathed. That's just desperate baseball, fishing for a run.

Good to see the team playing well again but I don't have any illusions of this team being better than they are. I would definitely prefer to go closer to .500 than lose 95 games. I wonder what will happen to the pen as we get later in the season, seems like we're in a great spot to really jump start the rebuild and dumping 2 or all of them if we can get a package like the ones closers were fetching last offseason. Gotta figure Chappie is a guarantee to be traded.

[H8ter2]

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I think a little different from bullpen perspective. I think they keep Chap and Betances and move Miller either at trade deadline or in off season, he gets too much money to not be the closer and for what the Yanks are trying to do money wise. Both Chap and Betances are young and at or near top of their game, they give you a Wetland/Mo type of 1-2 punch like the start of the 90's dynasty

I think this team tips out at 10 games over .500 as they will be streaky all year IMO, unless the starters can really keep it up through rest of season, hitting will fall off planet at times with the age.


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[DieHardYankee26]

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What's the point of having 2 dominant relievers when our best case is letting our contracts expire and then trying to go all in for 2019? I think if we can get a package of decent prospects, especially starters, we have to do it. I'd love to see Dellin stay as he came up here, but if we're going to win 85 games and miss the playoffs we could get more value out of the package he brings back, especially if they can season in the minors and be ready for when we go back into free agency.

[DamnYanks2]

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That's been something I've been thinking about quite a bit. We have three of the best relievers in the game. Each one can close with the best of them. A team on the verge of a playoff push or a win now philosophy, could give us something pretty nice in return for just one of them.

I love having all three, but if the right trade was offered, it would have to be considered.

Yanks definitely have some trade chips, and Beltran's stock is definitely going up the way he's been hitting home runs.

A package deal with Beltran, and Chapman could really be attractive to a win now team, and could net some good prospects in return.

That being said the East is wide open in my eyes right now. I don't think the Red Sox have enough pitching to cement a foothold, and Eovaldi is quietly becoming a good pitcher. Yanks could make a run at this thing. I don't think that's that crazy to say.

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[DieHardYankee26]

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I don't disagree that we could make a run to the playoffs, but I don't think we have any shot at a title without making a move for another reliable starting pitcher (or Severino coming back and being what we need him to be) and I don't expect big moves to be made. Maybe Cashman can find another decent guy off the scrap heap like he did with McCarthy and looks like he did with Eovaldi.

The issue with trying to compete this year is that Chappie's deal runs out this year, so he's basically a shoe in to be traded. There's just no reason for us not to try to cash in on some fringe contender trying to lock down the back of their bullpen. I think he's the best option because like I said his deal is running out, he's 28, and going to be looking for big money. I don't know what too many closers are making but I looked up Kimbrel and saw he's making 13 mil, Chappie is already making 11.something, Miller is only making 9, 31, and signed for 2 more years at that price after this one. Dellin hasn't even hit arbitration, trading him to me would require a great package obviously and be a last resort, no need to deal him. The other side to Chapman is the end of the season, we give him a QO, and someone else signs him do we get a draft pick? I'm not sure how that works with us just having had him for this year. So IMO we trade/attempt to trade Chapman first, if we can deal him and have enough time to get a deal done for Miller, we dump him too. If someone blows us away with a crazy package for Dellin, go for it, but I think he's actually super special in how many innings he can eat. How many closers can go 100 innings in a year?

[CMH]

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There's a reason Chapman is the closer. I'm 100% sure of it. It's definitely to make him an attractive trade piece.