**The Official New York Yankees Thread**

[DieHardYankee26]

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If that's the price for a rental Chapman, the haul for Miller would be bananas.

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Definitely agree, and I've been thinking about this a few ways.

First, I dont think he gets traded. The price for Chapman (as a rental), I dont even know how you scale that up to Miller, with the extra control.

This plays in our favor though because we dont have to trade him. I dont know what his value is but an article yesterday made me think it's even higher. I was looking at it from our point of view, but the article basically used the example that if the Indians did trade their prospects and didn't win out, they could then flip him again in the winter...thats how valuable he is. Those extra 2 years at 9 mil are unreal value. Chappie's fake extension talk was 15 per, that's not unreasonable and could end up higher. An elite reliever for 2 more years at almost half of what the market value is? Where do the talks even start? We just got our new 1 and 5 (according to MLB.com) prospects in a deal for 2 months of Chappie, and Miller is actually better both from a statistic and a monetary standpoint.

I guess my question is when do we go into reload. Obviously the big free agent class is after 2018, this seasons free agent class is awful, so we won't be able to get a ton better even for next year, even a quick look at 2017 looks bad. We've got Judge hopefully who'll be ready for RF next year. Mateo and Torres are both 19 year old shortstops in A, that could be our double play combination of the future, but that'll probably be late 2018-2019 at the earliest. Gary Sanchez can take over for McCann after his contract runs out (holy hell, just looked that up, had no idea he was signed for so long). Im interested to see what Severino can do now that he's had some time back down, that and of course we've got the Birdman. It's exciting to look forward, I like that our farm is strong up the middle, having 2 elite shortstop prospects is great, that athleticism can play all over the field.

Im really curious what Cashman can pull of for Beltran. That's another move that makes a ton of sense, but I could see ownership wanting to keep our best hitter while we're still "in it", whatever they think "it" is.

[DamnYanks2]

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Yankees now have 7 players in the top 100 prospects according to mlb. Times are uh-changing.

It definitely feels good to have a stocked farm system again, and gives the team multiple ways to improve the team going forward.





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[NYJets]

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Not a Cashman fan, but he's had a great deadline. Strong return, and convincing clowns like Levine and Hal to sell probably wasn't an easy task

[DieHardYankee26]

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Not a Cashman fan? After this? I want Levine given a new title or just be made an adviser and Cashman to be named President of Baseball Operations and put his own GM in like Theo. This is all the evidence I needed that he needs to not be getting overruled on everything. He's never had the chance to do this, and then he turns a rental reliever we paid nothing for, a 39 year old rental DH, and the best reliever in the AL who he signed to a below market deal that looks even better now that the reliever market has skyrocketed into 2 top 30 prospects, another top 100 guy, and this is all on top of the fact that we already had a top 15 system. And I want the change to happen quickly, before we get to the trade deadline next year and Hal starts losing his mind over ticket sales and other stuff and tries to undo everything. Having votes go 2-1 for money because the President of Baseball Ops is a money guy is no bueno.

Excited for the next couple months honestly, should be fun to watch the new kids come up and try their hand. Gary Sanchez (top catching prospect) will be up tomorrow. I'll be paying super close attention now to our AAA team. When Judge comes back, him and Frazier in the same outfield is going to be a glimpse at our next decade if everything works out.

Can't begin to say how excited I am about Frazier the more I hear about him. They did a Q&A with the Indians guys on SBNation on our return from the Miller trade.

http://www.pinstripealley.com/2016/8/2/12347128/yankees-trade-andrew-miller-justus-sheffield-heller-feyereisen

He's built like a tank, but has great speed. He's a true five-tool talent with speed, a great arm, excellent defense that can play all positions–but will likely settle in a corner outfield slot–an ability to make hard contact with his super quick bat speed, and he definitely has high power potential. There's a reason he's now your highest-rated prospect.

He's also the most competitive player I've ever seen. That's a great quality to have in a budding prospect.

Justus Sheffield is a bit more of a work in progress, but is also very talented. Yes, he's short at 5'10, but he can still throw low-90s as a southpaw at 20 years old and is developing quite nicely. Other than Mike Clevinger, he was probably the next closest starter in the Indians system who projected to be better than a #5. I can see him being a #3 starter some day as long as he continues progressing.

He made an adjustment around the All-Star break for High-A (he was an All-Star) and he's really ramped up his strikeouts. You never know with pitching prospects, but he's definitely one of the Indians' best at this point.

These two might be the "other guys" according to the fans, but Heller and Feyereisen were absolute steals. Ben Heller is the best bullpen arm in the Indians system. I've read he can hit 100 mph, but I've only ever seen him get up to 97 in person. He blows hitters away and is ready to roll right now. He destroyed Double-A hitters at the beginning of the year as the closer for Akron and has really settled in as a late game arm for the Triple-A team in the last month.

J.P. Feyereisen, also a late game bullpen prospect, is good enough to be promoted to Triple-A right now. While it would be a bit premature to promote him to the majors this season, he's definitely capable of adding bullpen depth after the Yankees traded Chapman and Miller. I foresee him making his MLB debut in 2017. He started his MiLB career with an incredible 31 scoreless innings streak which allowed him to accelerate very quickly through the Indians system.

Both Heller and Feyereisen hail from Wisconsin and they're good friends. Many Indians fans expected them to be future 8th and 9th inning battery-mates for the Tribe. I think you'll be very happy with both of these young bullpen arms.

Cashman is my hero.

[H8ter2]

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Unfortunately Cashman from most people will never get his true props, people stay fixated on the same tired arguments when it comes to the Yankees. "It's easy or should be easy being GM for a team with tons of money" or "they only win because of their money they spend" or they harp forever on the one bad deal someone makes. I've heard more people complaining about the Clippard deal then the fact the guy just revamped our entire minor league system and put a bright light on the future.

Need justification of how good he's done, look at the experts now saying the Yankees are a top 3 system right now and a much younger team especially when these contracts fall off during off season, when over the last few seasons all you heard was too old, over paid and terrible system, that's changed damn near overnight


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[DieHardYankee26]

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Clint Frazier has already tried to go at an Instagram model on Twitter.

Respect. Use that Yankee status bro.

Also Severino, back in the rotation, starting Tuesday. He's been great out of the pen, hopefully he can keep it up.

[NYJets]

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Need justification of how good he's done, look at the experts now saying the Yankees are a top 3 system right now and a much younger team especially when these contracts fall off during off season, when over the last few seasons all you heard was too old, over paid and terrible system, that's changed damn near overnight


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You know Cashman is responsible for that too, right? You shouldn't need to have a firesale to build a farm system. This isn't like the George years when we would trade all our young players for rentals. Cashman said 10 years ago that we were going to make the farm system a priority. He's tried, and the results haven't been good.

I mean I gave him his props, I said he did a great job this trade deadline. But you act like he just got here and needs time to clean up the mess he inherited. He got here over 15 years ago, and inherited a team that was already beginning a dynasty. He did a good job of adding pieces to that team, but since then its been 1 championship in 16 years, despite having a huge financial advantage over most of the league. And as the CBA changes lessened that advantage, we haven't adjusted.

As far as ownership, I think Hal and and Levine are morons, and they've done some stuff to get in his way. But lets not act like they are 1980's George either. It would be great if they said "Ok, you have $225 million to spend per year, do whatever you think is best, we'll just sign the checks" but it typically doesn't work like that.

[DieHardYankee26]

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I ****ing love Teixeira man. Thanks for everything. Legit in tears watching some of these videos.

"It wasn't always enough. But I tried my best and I'm proud to have a world series ring with the Yankees. Something I'll never forget."

[Rocket32]

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I ****ing love Teixeira man. Thanks for everything. Legit in tears watching some of these videos.

"It wasn't always enough. But I tried my best and I'm proud to have a world series ring with the Yankees. Something I'll never forget."

Agreed. A shame to see him retire. Glad he's retiring as a Yankee though instead of going to some other team after this year since the Yankees likely wouldn't bring him back.

In other news, Alex Rodriguez and the Yanks are holding a press conference at Yankee Stadium tomarrow. It will include Cashman and Girardi. As Yankees fans we can only hope it's to announce his retirement, effective immediately. It may be wishful thinking though as I think he would likely play out the rest of the season. He should just retire now in my opinion, it's kind of obvious he has nothing left.

[CMH]

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If Alex is retiring, then he got his money. There is no way he's walking away from $30 mm to be the good guy. He's tried being the good guy and the same people still dislike him. If he's trying again, he needs to fire his PR guy.

I will assume it's to announce his retirement. But it probably came after the Yankees were honest with him about 2017 playing time and giving him his money. This way they don't have to disgrace anyone by releasing him.

[DieHardYankee26]

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Sad to say but I won't be sad to see him go, all my good memories of A-Rod have been replaced with knowledge of his cheating and the extensive nature of it, can't look at him the same. Wouldn't be surprised if he stays on as a coach or something. He obviously is very passionate about the game, or he could get a job with a network pretty quickly. He was great in the world series last year.

Great career, wish I had more positive memories of him but at this point it's whatever. Another one bites the dust.

[DamnYanks2]

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I don't understand why Hicks gets so much playing time, I know it's temporary, but their are better options, just about anybody can do what Hicks has done.

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[DieHardYankee26]

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I should be amazed that after all the **** he's been through A-Rod still can't take one for the team and lie and just say "I wanted to let the young guys get some burn" or "2 starts is all I asked for". I'm equally upset at Girardi for all of his stupid *** comments about playing him if he wanted to, should've never said that in the first place, especially with no intention of following through.

But even then, A-Rod has to separate himself, it couldn't have been a group decision. He has to be surprised and disappointed. Just shut the **** up and collect your game checks until the end of the week, and then never show your face around here again. Being a Yankee doesn't mean anything to this guy, not that is has to, but reading opinions like the Yankees owe him anything other than his paycheck is making me lose it. This is unbelievable. I firmly believe Ortiz did steroids, he terrorized the Yankees for years, and I still don't hate him anywhere near as much as A-Rod. This guy has a talent for being unlikable.

[CMH]

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I guess we will disagree.

I think being a Yankee means everything to Alex. And it's the only reason he's retiring instead of taking a job elsewhere to reach 700.

[DieHardYankee26]

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He's not retiring. He got cut. Every answer he gives makes it seem like he'll be in another uniform by next Monday. He made it very clear that it wasn't his decision and then Cash did the same when he said "Given the performance, we had no choice" . Honestly this entire saga is a PR disaster, I don't get it. They cut the guy, said he's retiring in a statement, and basically no one has stuck to that story. Michael Kay asked him if he was done and he said "I haven't thought past Friday".