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  • KSUowls
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    • Jul 2009
    • 5893

    #46
    Re: 2021 Atlanta Braves

    Especially when we are already carrying such a massive bullpen. We really don't need the roster spot. It's not like snit will end up using any of the guys who get called up anyway

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    • canes21
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 22931

      #47
      Re: 2021 Atlanta Braves

      If Ozuna is found guilty and Atlanta does not have anything in the contract allowing them to save some money then that is a gigantic failure by the front office.

      Anyone else still think this team will end up winning the division? At this point I do, but not because I think a switch will be hit, I just think the rest of this division is trash, which it has been all year, and I expect the Mets to be the Mets and struggle to be a .500 team by the end of the year.

      I still laugh at how some people legitimately though the NL East would be one of the deepest divisions in baseball this year. It really shows how the "experts" know nothing so often. This team is pretty bad, but the NL East may be even worse than it has been in any of the last 5 years when I've been calling it the worst division in baseball. I don't think I'd find anyone this year disagreeing with me now like many did in the past citing the AL Central as the worst.

      With how bad this team is and with how the team plays in the postseason, watch this be the team that limps to a division championship or wildcard appearance and then finds themselves in the World Series. It wouldn't be the most surprising thing given how many great teams this franchise has had that constantly fell short of expectations in October. Maybe our garbage team will be the one to exceed expectations if they make it.
      “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


      ― Plato

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      • KSUowls
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        • Jul 2009
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        #48
        Re: 2021 Atlanta Braves

        The Mets are the favorite to me. They are leading it now despite having sustained massive amounts injuries. They seem like the most likely to "right" the ship if they can just get healthy. Their pitching isn't going anywhere. So, if they can get any offensive production at all then they will be fine.

        I do think that Atlanta still has a shot. Like you said, this division is not good. As bad as they have played they are still just 3.5 back with over 100 games left to be played. I don't think that they are winning anything without some roster additions either via trade or callups though. As bad as Morton has been for most of his starts, as bad as Smyly has been, as bad as Fried was for a stretch, as inconsistent as the offense has been all season, etc...this team is 1 really good bullpen arm away from being about 6 wins better than they currently are. Problem is though that unlike some of the starters or the offense, I don't know that the bullpen has really underperformed. They just weren't very good to begin with.

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        • canes21
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 22931

          #49
          Re: 2021 Atlanta Braves

          I agree that the pen simply didn't have much talent, but they've still disappointed at times. Outside of their lack of talent, their management has been the worst part of it all. Snitker has never managed the pen well.

          Freddie not being a good bat has been a major pain for the offense as was Ozuna not being able to hit anything on the field before his injury. If Freddie becomes what we're used to seeing, combining that with the hot Swanson, newfound Riley, and Acuna is a good offense that should be more consistent.

          The pen needs 2 solid arms added to it and we need at minimum one consistent starter at the back of the rotation. They'd still be a bit off from being a true contending team, but they'd definitely be able to win the division with a couple of right moves.

          Like it was said, despite all of these issues we've seen all year the team is only 3.5 back. The pen has given away about 10 games to this point, the offense was terrible to start the year and that added a handful of losses that really shouldn't have happened. The starting pitching took over 25 games to start playing okay.

          There is talent in the lineup to make some noise. A young arm needs to come up and stay up in the rotation and the pen needs 2 arms to solidify it and this team can take the division.
          “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


          ― Plato

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          • canes21
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2008
            • 22931

            #50
            Re: 2021 Atlanta Braves

            Anyone else actually somewhat unsurprised we won the series? It only makes sense with this unpredictable year. I'm more surprised that we were one bad 5th inning away from a sweep than I am we took the series.

            I still believe within a few weeks this team will be over .500 and first in the division, but only time will tell.

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            • KSUowls
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              • Jul 2009
              • 5893

              #51
              Re: 2021 Atlanta Braves

              Absolutely nothing surprises me with this team anymore.

              Friday was horrible to watch. I turned it off after the 2nd walk with bases loaded, and I couldn't bring myself to watch any more over the weekend.

              I am very curious where Atlanta ranks in walking/hitting batter with bases loaded. I feel like I've already seen more instances of that this year than I did in the previous decade.

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              • KSUowls
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                • Jul 2009
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                #52
                Re: 2021 Atlanta Braves

                Obviously I know the answer but...

                Why was Will Smith pitching tonight with a 4 run lead after he pitched 3 times in 4 days before the off day?

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                • LowerWolf
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 12270

                  #53
                  Re: 2021 Atlanta Braves

                  Originally posted by KSUowls
                  Obviously I know the answer but...

                  Why was Will Smith pitching tonight with a 4 run lead after he pitched 3 times in 4 days before the off day?
                  And tomorrow Tomlin will probably be in there in a one-run game in the 9th, and Snitker will complain you can’t use your best relievers every night.

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                  • LowerWolf
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 12270

                    #54
                    Re: 2021 Atlanta Braves

                    Will Smith. Drew Smyly. Cole Hamels.

                    AA should never be allowed to sign a LHP FA again.

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                    • KSUowls
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                      • Jul 2009
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                      #55
                      Re: 2021 Atlanta Braves

                      As bad as Will Smith has been. I said this in the game thread, but I'll say it again here....he pitched 4 times in 5 days. Maybe if the Phillies hadn't seen him last night or simply had an extra day of rest after a 4 run lead, then maybe he would have been more effective tonight.

                      At least Tucker Davidson put together another solid outing....how long until AA ships him back to Gwinnett?

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                      • KSUowls
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                        • Jul 2009
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                        #56
                        Re: 2021 Atlanta Braves

                        My prediction from a few weeks ago is missing some data after the 2 rainouts against the Mets. That's the only thing keeping me from burying this team in the division race this year.

                        The Mets currently have a .556 win rate which ranks last among all division leaders. So, that should be relatively easy to maintain going forward. This puts them on pace for right at 91 wins.

                        In order to match that 91 win total, Atlanta has to go 62-38 the rest of the way. That 62% win rate would make them roughly on par with San Fran who has the best winning % in baseball.

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                        • canes21
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 22931

                          #57
                          Re: 2021 Atlanta Braves

                          I think before today's loss the Braves had won 9 of the last 15 games. That's essentially what they'll have to continue doing the rest of the year to stay in the race. Two series against New York are coming up soon. And 7 games between the Reds and Pirates is coming up somewhat soon as well. Those are where you have to find wins.
                          “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


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                          • KSUowls
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                            • Jul 2009
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                            #58
                            Re: 2021 Atlanta Braves

                            Originally posted by KSUowls
                            My prediction from a few weeks ago is missing some data after the 2 rainouts against the Mets. That's the only thing keeping me from burying this team in the division race this year.
                            2 days later allow me to official bury this team's playoff hopes for 2021. The context of losing 2 against Miami makes it even worse, but the math just works against them at this point.

                            I'm glad that I watched a movie last night and didn't look at the start time for today's game. This team has been dreadful to watch, and I think that June 12th is a good time to stop believing that there is any chance they can turn things around.

                            I wonder what the chances are of moving Morton and Smyly before the trade deadline are for a bucket of balls. This offense could use them for BP so that maybe they will stop striking out 10x per game.

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                            • canes21
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 22931

                              #59
                              Re: 2021 Atlanta Braves

                              This team is garbage. Hopefully this leads to the dismissal of Snitker and a retooling of the organization.

                              I'll also just flat out say it, AA has not been a successful GM for us. The team is definitely underachieving and more talented on paper than they've shown, but all of that talent was here before him. He didn't get us Albies, Acuna. Freeman, Riley, Fried, Soroka, and those guys.

                              Everyone he brings in tends to fizzle out or be a failure from the get go. The bullpen was his number one priority when he got hired. The bullpen is a bigger weakness now than it was when he was hired.

                              The team is in a worse position now than they were years ago. He simply hasn't been a successful GM for the Braves.

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                              • KSUowls
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                                • Jul 2009
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                                #60
                                Re: 2021 Atlanta Braves

                                I hate this team. Yeah it sucks that it's always something different that results in a Loss. Starter gets knocked out early, bullpen blows a solid start, offense can't get a hit with runners on, etc...

                                It's such an infuriating brand of baseball though to see the offense strike out 5 times in their first 6 outs. I turned it off after watching that ineptitude at the plate. I just checked the box score to see that they've tied it up, but also half of the 20 outs that they have committed through 6.2 have been strikeouts.

                                That and the complete inability by the pitchers to throw strikes when the alternative is walking a run in....I hate this team.

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