Online leagues 2k15, The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

[amedawg00]

Re: Online leagues 2k15, The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

question.

so, you cam play a league with just 2 guys right?

does that mean both guys play against cpu teams? or just is the schedule just user vs user?

No cpu teams are allowed. If you create a 2 person league with a 82 game schedule, you and your friend are scheduled to play 82 home and away games against each other and only each other...lol. Rob Jones clearly misspoke during the press row podcast when he said CPU teams would be allowed in OL this year. He was also misleading when he said that robust customization were in leagues this year. Now lets just hope his assertion that two of their best engineers being charged with improving online stability will hold up during release week as we get ready for our online league pre season.

[Guard-ian]

Re: Online leagues 2k15, The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

Keep in mind guys leagues are still playable , you just need a close knit group of dedicated guys to play with. No randoms who will quit because they frustrated

Yeah, that's a must. But you know, it is normal to express frustration when we are lacking so many admin and customization options we used to have 7 years ago (I remember from 2k8 at least) but not now in the new generation...

For instance, I used to be in an online league with 30 other human users which try to play sim (I accept other's opinion, but in my book, that is the most amazing "sim experience" you can have with any 2k game, as you can be the gm, the coach and the players...) but from time to time, perhaps one of us don't have the time to run the team, so we like to be able to delegate the franchise (for a couple of weeks, or a month for instance) to other users and then get it back later... That would be easy with the kick/invite users options once the league started... and we can go on and on with examples for the others tools we are lacking in 2k15...

In the end, perhaps we will be able to adjust and enjoy the mode again (let's see) but it is kinda disappointing as, in the end, we are not asking for the moon, we just want to recover most of the things we already had years before...

Cheers! ;-)

[Da_Czar]

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You mean like, sort of what we've been doing for the past 4 years? I have not frequented every post every in Operation Sports but I do frequent it enough to know that the Devs are quick to respond to offline modes and brag about stuff they've been working on but when it comes to other topics such as server issues and online associations it's crickets. Time and time again.

I see this get posted from time to time and I feel it is misleading in the sense that there are not any Dev's who work on those two things to my knowledge who post regularly on OS. There never have been AFAIK.

I know your pissed and want answers but If I/we who post here don't have any / didn't make any decisions regarding this mode, it's not productive to come in here and post. IMHO YMMV etc.

[Guard-ian]

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I see this get posted from time to time and I feel it is misleading in the sense that there are not any Dev's who work on those two things to my knowledge who post regularly on OS. There never have been AFAIK.

I know your pissed and want answers but If I/we who post here don't have any / didn't make any decisions regarding this mode, it's not productive to come in here and post. IMHO YMMV etc.

But Czar, with due respect, is there a way for us to let you (or the people who can decide on it) know our concerns and how important it is this mode for many people, the things we are missing (and perhaps are not so difficult to be included in a patch), and so on and on...?

Thanks in advance, Presidente! ;-)

[amedawg00]

Re: Online leagues 2k15, The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

I see this get posted from time to time and I feel it is misleading in the sense that there are not any Dev's who work on those two things to my knowledge who post regularly on OS. There never have been AFAIK.

I know your pissed and want answers but If I/we who post here don't have any / didn't make any decisions regarding this mode, it's not productive to come in here and post. IMHO YMMV etc.

Thanks for stopping by Czar. I am enjoying the gameplay and playcalling in this years game thanks in no small part to your tireless efforts. I know you are not involved in the creation or production of this mode but it would be of immense help if you can relay the communities concerns about this mode to the powers that be. Again, the game is amazing. I even called in sick to work this morning to play it all day without distractions, with the woman being at work herself..lol

[lvnba]

Re: Online leagues 2k15, The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

I know your pissed and want answers but If I/we who post here don't have any / didn't make any decisions regarding this mode, it's not productive to come in here and post. IMHO YMMV etc.

We appreciate very much your honesty and dedication to the community, it is unparalleled in this franchise.

You are damn right in what you say, as well.

We can only hope for someone like you in the future working in our mode.

[Boilerbuzz]

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Boilerz, #1, I never said a word about MYLeague or MyGM.

I KNOW. That's my point. If you want to make an argument that they didn't spend their time on the right things, then you need to call out the time they spent on THOSE modes. Those are the modes that cost time on THIS mode. Get it?

# 2. besides trying to police this and other threads for no reason, what exactly is your purpose in these posts?

Police!? I'm here complaining just AS much as anyone else. What are you talking about?

You keep carrying on about how you want other people to post a certain way but last time I check different people voice things differently I am not cursing, disrespecting, or making derogatory comments about anyone here or in general, I believe as a grown man I can say what I want.

Then I'm SURE as a "grown man" you should understand my point when I say just staying focused on the issues instead of crying about where they focus their time (which we know NOTHING about), or how you're heading to Live (like some have) gets us NO closer to getting these issues fixed. Is that REALLY that tough?

I'm sure when operation sports is looking for a mod you would breeze thru the interview process and fit right in. But for now please stop quoting and nitpicking everything I, and others are saying.

I couldn't be a mod here because I'd be booting people left and right. And too much of that is bad for business. How about we make a deal - you fulfill MY request, and I'll fulfill your's. Does that sound good?

[stillfeelme]

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VC for whatever reason can't get this done right for what most consider basic features. I will not make excuses for them. My opinion is this game mode doesn't bring in enough revenue to justify whatever resources they decide to devote to this, that appears to be their thinking. The online league community is a small, small portion of their revenue it has to be.

Basically we are a like a gnat to them in the grand scheme of their overall plan and revenue stream and it could easily be offset by expansions to MyCareer, MyPark, MyTeam. It is clear as day to me and that is a decision their Execs decide what they are going to implement for each development cycle. I believe their long term goal is to get a Myleague version online but we are probably a year or two away from that.

• No CPU controlled teams? I thought in that podcast they said this was in.
• Admins can't boot people? That had to be a miss a huge miss.
• No Free Agents, No game plan rotations like MyLeague? I knew no custom playbooks were in but expected something from MyLeague would be in. I don't see a work around for free agents unless you are talking after a season is over you load a new roster. It seems like you have to start with a roster you can't or don't appear to be able to load a roster to your league as you are going.
• All the customization that is not in is basically so that they don't have to code and test.
• The dev responsible for this mode hands are tied and he/she probably had a small budget/small time =barebones

[Taer]

Re: Online leagues 2k15, The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

I see this get posted from time to time and I feel it is misleading in the sense that there are not any Dev's who work on those two things to my knowledge who post regularly on OS. There never have been AFAIK.

I know your pissed and want answers but If I/we who post here don't have any / didn't make any decisions regarding this mode, it's not productive to come in here and post. IMHO YMMV etc.

I understand your point and totally agree with it.

With that being said: LD2K should be involved with this type of thread - its his job to make sure that major concerns are conveyed to those on your team who need to be made aware of the issues posted in this constructive thread.

This is not a whinny thread made to vent or rant, this thread is one of constructive criticism where issues with a mode of this year's implementation are being discussed in detail.

You even posting this much is great Da_Czar and to expect you to do the additional footwork of conveying all these concerns should not be dumped on you. I just feel that LD2K should be here at least saying he would get everything needed to the correct team members.

Now I'll go back to lurking.

[Boilerbuzz]

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If you're not an undercover dev, as far as I know, you are just speculating as much as we do. Stop playing mod, man...

I LOVE it when people have NO real, logical rebuttal to what I say, and come with stuff like this. Let's me know I'm getting somewhere.

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: Online leagues 2k15, The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

No cpu teams are allowed. If you create a 2 person league with a 82 game schedule, you and your friend are scheduled to play 82 home and away games against each other and only each other...lol.

I'm literally speechless here. I don't see how this would work. For example:

You have 32 guys starting a league. Everything is good. 1 of those guys has to drop. So, he quits on his own - since that is allowed in the OL, right?

So, what happens with that team? Does the team just disappear from the schedule? Does it force someone else to own the team? Or does the AI take over that team?

Frustrated and confused are the operative words for me today.

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: Online leagues 2k15, The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

But Czar, with due respect, is there a way for us to let you (or the people who can decide on it) know our concerns and how important it is this mode for many people, the things we are missing (and perhaps are not so difficult to be included in a patch), and so on and on...?

Thanks in advance, Presidente! ;-)

This thread is doing it. That's my point. Keep the thread non-toxic and the guys that make those calls will see it. If I'm wrong, Czar can correct me.

[amedawg00]

Re: Online leagues 2k15, The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

I'm literally speechless here. I don't see how this would work. For example:

You have 32 guys starting a league. Everything is good. 1 of those guys has to drop. So, he quits on his own - since that is allowed in the OL, right?

So, what happens with that team? Does the team just disappear from the schedule? Does it force someone else to own the team? Or does the AI take over that team?

Frustrated and confused are the operative words for me today.

Good questions. Will look into it shortly when I use my other profile to leave the league, leaving the just the human controlled team and see how the game handles it.

[ChillRobP]

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I'm literally speechless here. I don't see how this would work. For example:

You have 32 guys starting a league. Everything is good. 1 of those guys has to drop. So, he quits on his own - since that is allowed in the OL, right?

So, what happens with that team? Does the team just disappear from the schedule? Does it force someone else to own the team? Or does the AI take over that team?

Frustrated and confused are the operative words for me today.

You never played 2k11? When a player dropped or was booted, that team just had no user, and you had to wait for someone to fill the team before you could play against that team or trade or do anything. it would just be left as an "open" team.

Seems like you really had no involvement in any real online leagues before.

[amedawg00]

Re: Online leagues 2k15, The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

You never played 2k11? When a player dropped or was booted, that team just had no user, and you had to wait for someone to fill the team before you could play against that team or trade or do anything. it would just be left as an "open" team.

Seems like you really had no involvement in any real online leagues before.

You're exactly right. Can confirm that's what happens. Forgot about that aspect in past iterations of leagues pre 2k12. It's been such a long time since we had issue free leagues with 2k11. They were damn near perfect, especially with the companion websites, which I am assuming 2k has all but abandoned this year; could be wrong but doubt it. The OA implementation was flawed but had immense potential when we played inspite of the bugs that plagued that mode.