can't dunk with my shot creating/slasher

[Dwiddie05]

can't dunk with my shot creating/slasher

My Slashing Shot-Creator is dunking perfectly fine now!!! I am 87 overall, 6’4” 220lbs I think. Contact dunk is an 83 and driving dunk is the same. I just played this morning and got 4 contact dunks in the first quarter and this is playing on hall of fame. I noticed after I started earning badges and stuff my dude started dunking more.

It was weird because I experienced the same problems from day one. I could dunk in the Mycourt and warmups but that was it. Now I am straight up putting balls in grown men’s faces [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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[ViolenceFight]

Re: can't dunk with my shot creating/slasher

To be the same build I'd consider that they are the same by position, archetype setup, height and weight, and wingspan.

I don't know anyone with the exact same builds experiencing extremely different dunking tendencies. I don't think this is intentional on a whole front. There are Association players in My Team and Official Roster who are known to posterize but 2K has given them extremely low Driving Dunk tendencies. It's affecting those users the same way as My Player users here.

I do think they want to reduce dunk tendencies because Beluba has said that but he himself also added not to this effect so I consider this as part of "not to this effect".

Following your lead, what variable(s) do you imagine is/are causing two individuals with the same build to experience extremely different rates on driving dunking tendencies? While here, I think the conflict is also due to the global tendencies that Beluga can control for each mode. Without changing the characters tendency: raising the global tendency can cause others to continue to dunk but at a more extreme rate which already seems to be the case.

It'll be a constant juggle act until you get the character to a sensible rating on his tendency. I understand your impression is different and you hold out belief that it could be a different underlying factor and I will hold that as a possibility as well. I'll point to tendency for now because that's the only evidence I'm ready to accept until someone has a 25 driving dunk tendency and is driving dunking at a rate far higher than that (75% or higher).

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We got 2 reporting that they are dunking now. I feel like it's 2k14. You gotta get a few in game dunks, then it starts pushing your tendancy up. Basically you gotta break the seal.

Also, I got way more dunks after bronze poster. It took a grind to get it, but then It took over.

Tendancies for association players are one thing, Hanz, but we have a bit of control over our myplayer tendancies. That's why they are different colors(usually green for raising, or red for lowering) when you check them.

Ashaman was basically my build, only I run the 2, not PG. And going back to same height/etc. 2 characters of the same height have the same stats, give or take wingspan. Been that way since last year. I know you know this fact, so I'm not sure the exact relevancy of that. If I'm 6'4, and he's 6'4, we're basically the same if our archetype is the same.

This is also why I've been asking if they dunked in the prelude, at all.

My theory, which is feeling more true with the last couple posts, is this:

Fact 1: The Game uses the prelude as a Guage for the player. If you do really bad, the game will actually start you on Rookie in career, which is the only way to use that difficulty.

Fact 2: Tendancies affect our guy in game, but we also influence them with our personal play style in career.

If you went through the prelude and did no dunks, and subsequently didn't do any in the career mode at first, then your tendancy is low due to that. That means that for the guys not used to the new systems, who may have not did much in the prelude, essentially caused their own problem. They need just a couple in game dunks to fix it. How to go about that is a good question, and one I don't have an answer to. Maybe call for Alleys? Worked for my old PF in 14 that never dunked. Had to force a few alleys down to get it going.

The reason I'm gravitating towards this theory is because people are starting to get dunks once they get badges, and also it makes the most sense. I did not really want to post it, because it's way easier to blame a faceless corporation and because people who spent money(Even voluntarily like VC purchasing) will always look for someone to fix something because they can't be wrong, they are a customer.

What I will say is this: I DO NOT believe that people making secondary characters and experiencing the same problem are having this issue because of coding. Especially with a lot of people chiming in that their 60 overall is tearing the rim off when their 90 can't. I think the prelude/tendancy theory makes sense based off the facts we have.

At this point, we wait to see 2k's response, if there is one.

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[49UNCFan]

Re: can't dunk with my shot creating/slasher

My player is dunking! Your Arch has to correlate along with your packages! I noticed being a slasher that explosive layup works best for me then crafty and so forth

[hanzsomehanz]

Re: can't dunk with my shot creating/slasher

@ViolenceFight, I don't accept your facts as facts because there is no given proof this is how it works in 18. I'm not buying buying the whole "do dunks early in prelude" etc and you will build your "dunk cred" package.

If that turns out to be the case, then I'll definitely accept it as gospel but for now we are both basically grasping for answers from the dark until 2K has knowledge and information for us to give closure on the matter.

I used the Association players as an example to fit with the theory that it's linked to tendencies. What I do accept as possible is that 2K is randomly handing out different tendencies to My Player builds.

BTW, not running the 2 versus the 1 is a difference. If you don't accept it as a major difference that's fine but I accept it as a possibility that the two different positions with different archetypes are holding different tendencies. It was slight difference in 17 between same builds and heights for some positions at certain heights it probably still is in 18 but a 25 Driving Dunk tendency is a huge discrepancy and we don't see that rating until we reach 90.

To have to recreate the same build just to possibly get a different tendency is not a plausible fix for a build that should already be attempting dunks in the open without a hitch.

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[hanzsomehanz]

Re: can't dunk with my shot creating/slasher

We got 2 reporting that they are dunking now. I feel like it's 2k14. You gotta get a few in game dunks, then it starts pushing your tendancy up. Basically you gotta break the seal.

[...]

My theory, which is feeling more true with the last couple posts, is this:

Fact 1: The Game uses the prelude as a Guage for the player. If you do really bad, the game will actually start you on Rookie in career, which is the only way to use that difficulty.

Fact 2: Tendancies affect our guy in game, but we also influence them with our personal play style in career.

If you went through the prelude and did no dunks, and subsequently didn't do any in the career mode at first, then your tendancy is low due to that. That means that for the guys not used to the new systems, who may have not did much in the prelude, essentially caused their own problem. They need just a couple in game dunks to fix it. How to go about that is a good question, and one I don't have an answer to.

[...]

What I will say is this: I DO NOT believe that people making secondary characters and experiencing the same problem are having this issue because of coding. Especially with a lot of people chiming in that their 60 overall is tearing the rim off when their 90 can't. I think the prelude/tendancy theory makes sense based off the facts we have.

At this point, we wait to see 2k's response, if there is one.

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The reason I stubbornly disagree with your theory is simple but still related. My impression is if your tendency reflects that of a non dunking player such as John Stockton out the gate: your Driving Dunk tendency is basically dead from the moment you sign those registration papers as a walkon in the Neighborhood.

At the most extreme, your mind has attempted to wrestle the problem by suggesting a call for oops. The enthusiasm you have to defeat this as a user is remarkable and it has its place but I don't put this onus on the user to work his way out of a 0 driving dunk tendency (most extreme). You are not afforded leisure to endure this kind of hardship with the game let alone invest money to reach 85 only to have a suggested ability gimped by a tendency that is indeed fighting against your best efforts to carry out a simple action.

You mentioned some cases were resolved. You will see some more people dunking now that couldn't before and those reports came just as quickly as when Beluba reported he had adjusted the Dunking tendencies from his end. It's possible a dunk tendency closer to 50 is the threshold that is benefiting from Beluba's tuning but 25 is still in the basement. I'm still stubbornly believing there is more work to be done on 2K's end.

If you have opportunity to dunk in Prelude but your player willfully chooses not to then you are essentially at odds with your own character. It could very well be the users not dunking are totally incapable due to the bottleneck tendency rating, I mean c'mon, wide open fast break, hold turbo and use button or stick: voila - a dunk should manifest lol. You know how bad the design is if you need to prove you can dunk? I mean beyond the rating and badge you need some way to prove this? Is this what you're supporting or advocating as the intended design? Play 5 games against bots as a Walkon and prove you can dunk. X amount of dunks over attempts will raise or lower your dunk chances in your NBA career. These 5 games as a 60 overall hold the cards to your future, not those ratings and badges you're grinding for lol. I take you serious but this suggested design theory is not respectable for my understanding. It would work if you could always force your player to attempt a dunk regardless of his ratings and size and regardless of the defender in front of you. The current mechanics and conditions don't allow for this game design to work as presented which is kind of how we have arrived to this discussion.

You and I basically continue to reach different verdicts based on same information based on the nature of our philosophies. You put your hat on and go to work and make your field fit for you. I'm expecting they make "their" field fit for me because I don't see myself as a farmer in this situation - I see myself as a consumer of the farmer's goods. If you need me to work, at least serve tools that are in good shape and yes even slaves needed good working conditions so serve me prosperous working conditions.

This is a problem I see them needing to fix on their landscape not a problem the user fixes on his landscape let a lone a user created problem. I'm also waiting to see what develops but the PG position is a position I'm avoiding if I want to dunk. I'll also avoid some of the two-way SG builds. This is a measure I'll take to raise my chances of avoiding this trouble.


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[hanzsomehanz]

Re: can't dunk with my shot creating/slasher

My player is dunking! Your Arch has to correlate along with your packages! I noticed being a slasher that explosive layup works best for me then crafty and so forth

What's your build?

Are you saying that your experience was layup packages were affecting / interfering with your driving dunk tendencies?

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[49UNCFan]

Re: can't dunk with my shot creating/slasher

What's your build?

Are you saying that your experience was layup packages were affecting / interfering with your driving dunk tendencies?

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6'4 195 I believe PG

[nba2kpdx]

Re: can't dunk with my shot creating/slasher

This thread scared me a little bit, but I finally made a shot creating slasher SF (6'8") and got him up to 85.

No problems contact dunking even though I have no badges. It's nice to have a midrange game too.

[Hustle Westbrook]

Re: can't dunk with my shot creating/slasher

Weird glitch. I have a Shot Creating/Sharpshooter and have no problems dunking in game. About a 74 driving dunk rating with no dunking badges.



I actually tried to check his dunking tendencies but I couldn't find out where the tendencies are hidden.

[andrewthaggard]

Re: can't dunk with my shot creating/slasher

Weird glitch. I have a Shot Creating/Sharpshooter and have no problems dunking in game. About a 74 driving dunk rating with no dunking badges.



I actually tried to check his dunking tendencies but I couldn't find out where the tendencies are hidden.

Yep, my Slasher would never do that^^^^

Ugh it hurts just to watch it even.

[supdog]

Re: can't dunk with my shot creating/slasher

When I upped my layup stat is when I stopped dunking, not sure if that's why but something to look at.

[andrewthaggard]

Re: can't dunk with my shot creating/slasher

Thought I would update everyone on my experience:

91 overall, have started to chip away at silver posterizer however, I can only dunk within 3-5 feet of basket. 6'4, Slashing Playmaker. I am able to get dunks off but very rarely can I get to within 5 feet without the bigs coming over to help. Mind you, in "mycourt" and pregame warmups, I am able to fly from the free throw line and dunk how I meant to. I still truly believe that I have some sort of glitch and wish I knew what to do at this point. I've put so much time into this player and he's meant to SLASH! Argh.

[Rsnake21]

Re: can't dunk with my shot creating/slasher

Guess this issue kinda got put on the back burner? Still no acknowledgment from the devs besides that hot fix a while ago that didn't really fix the problem?

[JustCallMeSleepy]

Re: can't dunk with my shot creating/slasher

I kind of waited till now to say something, but I’ve been on PS4, with a 6’5 Playmaking SC PG, and a 6’3 Sharpshooting SC and been able to dunk consistently since Day 1. Sometimes in traffic, sometimes in the half court, but always when uncontested. So if people are still having problems, I’m gonna have to call it a bug for some, but certainly not all.


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[YouAllReadyKnow]

Re: can't dunk with my shot creating/slasher

I can't hit mid range jump shots with and this is with the boosts.... my contested mid Shot is 98 my open is 98 and movin is 96 and I have my jump shot down it's an quick one sec release and I still miss way to much... iv tryed ever game difficulty and there all the same when it comes to my game