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  • ph33
    MVP
    • Oct 2014
    • 3261

    #361
    Pro Am Builds For 2k19

    In due time we will see what the OP stuff is.

    They can try and balance all they want and it's definitely welcome and necessary for sure. But if there's one thing about this community, it's that some YouTuber is gonna find a way to crack the meta and then it'll take off.

    I'll never forget you 2k15! I thought I was a master of fadeaways until I read the internets and learned everyone else was too that year [emoji17]

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    • TheFinalEvent97
      MVP
      • Jul 2016
      • 1519

      #362
      Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

      Im really struggling to choose between a 6'10 230lbs Pure Rim Protector C and a 6'11 250lbs Two Way Athletic Finisher C , i loved using my 6'10 Paint Protector in 17 and my 6'11 Two Way Athletic Finisher was great in 18
      Main Stats, Pure Rim Protector on the left

      77vs92 Standing Layup
      69vs82 Driving Layup
      72vs91 Driving Dunk
      60vs59 Open Mid Range
      62vs58 Open Shot 3
      81vs76 Rebounding
      99vs83 Steal
      98vs78 Block
      99vs80 Shot Contest
      89vs83 Vertical
      88vs73 Lateral Quickness
      81vs79 Speed
      78vs75 Acceleration
      84vs76 Strength
      My concerns are the Two Way will get overwhelmed inside and on the boards whereas the Pure Rim Protector will struggle to take advantage of mismatches on offense. Thoughts?
      Last edited by TheFinalEvent97; 09-04-2018, 07:45 AM.

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      • Rockie_Fresh88
        Lockdown Defender
        • Oct 2011
        • 9621

        #363
        Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

        Originally posted by TheFinalEvent97
        Im really struggling to choose between a 6'10 230lbs Pure Rim Protector C and a 6'11 250lbs Two Way Athletic Finisher C , i loved using my 6'10 Paint Protector in 17 and my 6'11 Two Way Athletic Finisher was great in 18
        Main Stats, Pure Rim Protector on the left

        77vs92 Standing Layup
        69vs82 Driving Layup
        72vs91 Driving Dunk
        60vs59 Open Mid Range
        62vs58 Open Shot 3
        81vs76 Rebounding
        99vs83 Steal
        98vs78 Block
        99vs80 Shot Contest
        89vs83 Vertical
        88vs73 Lateral Quickness
        81vs79 Speed
        78vs75 Acceleration
        84vs76 Strength
        My concerns are the Two Way will get overwhelmed inside and on the boards whereas the Pure Rim Protector will struggle to take advantage of mismatches on offense. Thoughts?
        I think the two way is just far more balanced . You get some finishing ability but still protect the rim . Have you considered the slashing rim protector ? It’s a good middle ground .
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        • TheFinalEvent97
          MVP
          • Jul 2016
          • 1519

          #364
          Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

          Originally posted by Rockie_Fresh88
          I think the two way is just far more balanced . You get some finishing ability but still protect the rim . Have you considered the slashing rim protector ?
          Slasing Rim Protector is kind of a worse version of both, gets the same level of Defensive Stopper and Rim Protector as the Two Way and is worse at finishing. My main problem in 17 and 18 using Pure Rim Protectors was getting outrebounded, in 19 it gets Gold Hustle Rebounder which with 89 Vertical would be super effective. In 17 my Paint Protector was either too fast or too big to deal with in transition, rolling off screens, backdown cuts etc. I had problems in 18 rebounding due to only having Silver Hustle Rebounder on my Two Way Athletic Finisher.

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          • Wejwer89
            Rookie
            • Feb 2015
            • 66

            #365
            Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

            Does anyone have max ratings for:

            PG, Pure Shot Creator, 6'3'', minumum weight and wingspan?
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            • jyoung
              Hall Of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 11132

              #366
              Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

              Slashing Defenders are good for the PG, SG, and SF positions, but for PF and C, you're better off making a Two Way Athletic Finisher.

              I wouldn't recommend making a pure defender at any position to start the year.

              Give it a couple of weeks and see if you can get by with lower-rated defenders before upgrading to a pure defender, because the deduction that you'll be taking to your offensive abilities might not be worth it if you can play good enough defense with more offensively gifted builds.

              Defensive big men became worthless pretty early in 2K18's lifespan once the 5 out wave took over the mode and every team's bigs were stretches. I don't think that's going to happen again this year, but you never know; "Cheese finds a way," as Jeff Goldblum would say.

              I do know that you can expect to see at least one, maybe two 7'0" Rebounding Stretch Bigs in people's lineups to start the year, since that is by far the best shooting big man archetype that isn't as weak as a cardboard cutout inside the paint.
              Last edited by jyoung; 09-04-2018, 09:00 AM.

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              • Korrupted
                Pro
                • Nov 2015
                • 917

                #367
                Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

                Originally posted by Wejwer89
                Does anyone have max ratings for:

                PG, Pure Shot Creator, 6'3'', minumum weight and wingspan?
                Lol I notice a lot of people are making undersized guards. I look forward to playing against builds like this. Smaller players haven't been the wave since 6'7 PG's were discovered in 2k16. Unless 2k has made speed a noticeable difference in 2k19, smaller players are about to get abused especially on PNR's. Good Luck
                Last edited by Korrupted; 09-04-2018, 08:59 AM.

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                • jyoung
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 11132

                  #368
                  Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

                  Defensively, you might be able to hide a small PG on a primary sharp if the other team has one, but you won't be able to hideout on primary shot creators this year, since their post ratings got boosted into the 80s.

                  If there's no sharp primary on the floor, then you'll have to play a rotation-based defense, which will require a fairly fast rim protector and one more fast wing defender to successfully pull off the 3-man rotation where the corner defender runs in to cover the rim, the wing defender runs down to cover the corner, and the PG runs over to cover the wing any time that there's a drive or cut to the basket.

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                  • sparkybob
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 78

                    #369
                    Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

                    Originally posted by HowDareI
                    Honest question tho, they made defense better and obviously made lockdowns better..so why'd they up the difficulty?

                    Just wondering, because it seems shootings toned down too..so yea does that mean just a bunch of slashers lol

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                    It's probably something they make easier during the lifecycle of the game after online people keep complaining about it.

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                    • Wejwer89
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 66

                      #370
                      Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

                      Originally posted by Korrupted
                      Lol I notice a lot of people are making undersized guards. I look forward to playing against builds like this. Smaller players haven't been the wave since 6'7 PG's were discovered in 2k16. Unless 2k has made speed a noticeable difference in 2k19, smaller players are about to get abused especially on PNR's. Good Luck
                      Thanks for your opinion. Don't worry about my defence. My team likes to play a 3-2 zone often so it won't be a big problem. Apart from that you don't have to be a beast on defence while playing PG.

                      6'3'' is considered to be "undersized PG" ? Aren't Curry and Irving 6'3'' , what about Westbrook? In the NBA, point guards are usually about 6' 3" (1.93 m) or shorter.
                      My Youtube channel (lot of SIM gameplay):

                      Watch it:

                      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCho...-zn9f0A/videos

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                      • shawnydee
                        Pro
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 839

                        #371
                        Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

                        Originally posted by Wejwer89
                        Thanks for your opinion. Don't worry about my defence. My team likes to play a 3-2 zone often so it won't be a big problem. Apart from that you don't have to be a beast on defence while playing PG.

                        6'3'' is considered to be "undersized PG" ? Aren't Curry and Irving 6'3'' , what about Westbrook? In the NBA, point guards are usually about 6' 3" (1.93 m) or shorter.
                        6'3 is undersized in pro am. Some people are able to get away with it but not everyone.

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                        • HowDareI
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 1900

                          #372
                          Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

                          Pretty positive I'ma just make a play sharp or pure sharp now just so I don't waste vc [emoji23]

                          While everyone else was abusing screens and snatchbacks, I was running around on offense like Kyle Korver or JJ Redick.

                          I kinda find it fun it's like running my defender thru a maze..

                          My dude used to be 6'8 tho, doubt he'll be that tall again if I do..don't wanna lose too much of my shot now.

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                          • GK_11
                            Rookie
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 159

                            #373
                            Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

                            Originally posted by shawnydee
                            6'3 is undersized in pro am. Some people are able to get away with it but not everyone.

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                            Maybe it was last year, but so was sharps consistently hitting contested 3s from 30+ feet. From everything weve seen (infro from devs, max attribute comparisons, prelude impressions) they realized how ridiculous avg position size was on my players was (near max height, weight and wingspans on 90+% of players) and have balanced size accordingly.

                            One of the things thats cool is that the attribute cost appears to be exponential - i.e: it is not a standard penalty per inch taller, the rate at which attributes drop seems to increase the further you get from default (normal) sizes. Really going to incentivize having players stay within more realistic dimensions without completely eliminating the possibility of making a plus size player - and i think also increase the viability of undersized builds.
                            Last edited by GK_11; 09-04-2018, 10:54 AM.

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                            • Korrupted
                              Pro
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 917

                              #374
                              Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

                              Originally posted by Wejwer89
                              Thanks for your opinion. Don't worry about my defence. My team likes to play a 3-2 zone often so it won't be a big problem. Apart from that you don't have to be a beast on defence while playing PG.

                              6'3'' is considered to be "undersized PG" ? Aren't Curry and Irving 6'3'' , what about Westbrook? In the NBA, point guards are usually about 6' 3" (1.93 m) or shorter.
                              Bruh this is a video game not real life lol. In terms of 2k 6'3 is a baby. I'm not counting yall out but I'm interested to see how effective smaller players are or how much of a liability they are going to be this year.

                              People tend to get caught up in ratings way too much and I see a lot of people falling victim again this year. Everybody wants 90 Ball Control but there was little to no difference between 90 and 86 in 2k18. Most of the tier 3 sizeups went unused as well. I had a 6'4 pure play with 99 speed in 2k18. I honestly stopped using him because the speed differential was minimal going up against bigger players who were much slower. Hopefully 2k fixes it in 2k19. If not....Good Luck!
                              Last edited by Korrupted; 09-04-2018, 10:15 AM.

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                              • ph33
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 3261

                                #375
                                Re: Pro Am Builds For 2k19

                                Tier 3 size-ups are really overrated unless someone can educate me otherwise.

                                All you do is flick the right stick up and watch them do a bunch of dribble moves that you're not doing, and you can break out of those just like you can with the pro size ups that work just as well.

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