NBA 2K19 Play Now Online Thread

[jeebs9]

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I used the Warriors for the first time last night...Wow....Like Wow... I was learning releases in the first quarter and only scored 5 points (to 17)...Cut the lead at halftime down by 4. Ran him over in between the third and fourth. You just got to move the ball. I think it's hilarious watching people run pick and roll over and over. But here are the 2 most shocking things I've seen when facing the Warrior Users. People never use Draymond Green... And I'm not talking about jumpers. But as a passer. When he rebounds the ball. Push it with him. That's when the Warriors are the most dangerous. Same goes for Cousins. He's actually a really good passer and face up big man. The Warriors freelance is even more dangerous if you sprinkle in some dribble hand offs. I played a few guys last night after the above game. They are dangerous.

[m29a]

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I think people spam PnR so much because it's just better than the alternatives.

I mean, with how physical the defense is now this year, you can't just ISO most guys up anymore, so the PnR is the easiest and fastest way to get some space from the defender.

Aggressively passing all the time can be risky and result in too many turnovers.

Going to the post can be hit or miss, hook/fades can feel like a wasted possession when you consider the success of the 3pt shot.

Running plays is a good idea, but they can take too long to develop and be unreliable.

[knockinJs]

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I think people spam PnR so much because it's just better than the alternatives.

I mean, with how physical the defense is now this year, you can't just ISO most guys up anymore, so the PnR is the easiest and fastest way to get some space from the defender.

Aggressively passing all the time can be risky and result in too many turnovers.

Going to the post can be hit or miss, hook/fades can feel like a wasted possession when you consider the success of the 3pt shot.

Running plays is a good idea, but they can take too long to develop and be unreliable.

Yeah tbh 90% of what I see ppl complaint about in here I have no problem with. Like somebody mentioned setting the defense to smother, Ive found when my opponent does that they close out too hard and give up good driving lanes. Especially if the C is kinda a stiff, the poll and roll is really easy with a hard roller.

P&R is annoying but I get why my opponent does it. Not because it’s super OP, just the alternatives aren’t good unless you’re using KD, Harden or Bron.

Steal spamming I’ve never had a problem with in almost 100 games. If I’m using a weak ball handler, I pass it to someone else. Or if somebody with a high steal rating is guarding my guy, I go through someone else. I played a game as the Kings vs 98 Knicks and Charlie Ward was harassing Fox and my backup PG. My solution: have Buddy or Boggy take it up.

Offball defense can be problematic if I’m playing lazy. Can you imagine how OP offball D could be if PnR was nerfed? I really despise playing tier 1 games just because of how OP the tier 1 teams are. TOR is nearly impossible to defend. PHI is terribly difficult to penetrate against. Literally when Embiid isn’t on the floor, PHI’s defense is garbage IRL. In game? Doesn’t matter if Boban is C because nobody is getting into the lane. But back to offball defense, just pick your spots and it’s important to have a Pick and Popper on the court. If you’re just gonna blindly dive into the paint expect kick out opportunities, play at the beginning tier and don’t move into the next tier.

[Mintsa]

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One more damn win......one more........

Then I’m out.

Time to watch way more real ball on tv now.

[mb625]

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I think people spam PnR so much because it's just better than the alternatives.

I mean, with how physical the defense is now this year, you can't just ISO most guys up anymore, so the PnR is the easiest and fastest way to get some space from the defender.

Aggressively passing all the time can be risky and result in too many turnovers.

Going to the post can be hit or miss, hook/fades can feel like a wasted possession when you consider the success of the 3pt shot.

Running plays is a good idea, but they can take too long to develop and be unreliable.

This. The last PNO game I played was a while ago. I had my usual classic Sonics, opponent was the Jazz. He was literally just straight 1-5 or 2-5 PNR and strictly off-ball D with the center. I was up 10 in the first half, bad things started happening, and ended up losing by 10. He came on the mic and was like "man, you choked," and I'm just sitting here like... not really. You did the things that are guaranteed to work, I ran plays. It didn't have anything to do with me choking. Your style is far less prone to mistakes than mine. There are just so, so many things that are out of my control when trying to play a sim style that it's borderline not worth doing in a PNO setting.

[mb625]

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Exactly...Kush has done a great job making videos after videos about the "little things" that plague the game. At the basic level, the game is not that bad. I get more mad about the "little things" than my opponent attempting to abuse certain aspects of the game.

Little things like....

• Blocking the ball 2 times in a row for it to be grabbed by the offense.
• Passing the ball to the corner only for your teammate to dart into the paint at the last possible moment (legacy problem).
• Good boxout on the rebound, the player behind you still gets it due to better badges and ratings.
• Tipping the pass, and it still magically makes it back to the offense.
• Contested shots (need I say more?).
• Missing open putbacks underneath the basket after pump faking the shorts off your opponent (need I say more?).
• Bad PnR suction animations.
• Untimely AI turnovers (Offensive 3 seconds in the key for example)
• Simple passes being fumbled in catch and shoot situations.
• Simple passes not being caught in the backcourt.

There's more, but I really hate fighting more against the "little things" than actually playing the game.

My BIGGEST issue is user timing with steals and blocks. Dudes get rewarded for making bad plays waaay too much.

[ksuttonjr76]

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My BIGGEST issue is user timing with steals and blocks. Dudes get rewarded for making bad plays waaay too much.

OMG! I played a game last night like that against a Portland user. My typical "I know that I'm better than this f*cking dude, but the game is giving him every opportunity to win" game. He drives hard, he gets 20 FTs while I get one block with Tuner. I drive hard and get 5 FTs while he racked up 8 blocks and forced a ton of misses. He drives with only layups with no regards to the defense while I'm using euro steps, cradles, and proper driving angles.

It's like this game rewards stupidity and brain dead tactics more over playing just smart basketball.

[Mintsa]

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I love how so many of us now (basically all of us). Now see/admit/believe that 2K “keeps the scores close”.

It’s really a stupid/cheap way to try to keep “the game” competitive........can they do away with this garbge next year and kinda go old school.......user vs user.

Not better user vs crappier user (plus boosts in all kinds of areas).

[ksuttonjr76]

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I love how so many of us now (basically all of us). Now see/admit/believe that 2K “keeps the scores close”.

It’s really a stupid/cheap way to try to keep “the game” competitive........can they do away with this garbge next year and kinda go old school.......user vs user.

Not better user vs crappier user (plus boosts in all kinds of areas).

I'm not ready to subscribe to the "the game keeps the score close" theory yet :wink:, lol. Honestly, I just think all various badges add way too many numerical variables while trying to add some element of RNG to make the game "fair". It's like the game can't decide consistently whether to award you for a good a boxout or award the player behind you due to the higher ratings and "hustle rebounder" badge. The PnR is the most abused play, because it simply activates the most badges in one play which mostly negates any defense that's being played.

The presence of badges is the main reason why I've been pushing so hard for a lobby that removes everything (badges, shot meter, playart, etc), and why I believe that NBA 2K11 was still the best H2H game for online matches. NBA 2K11 was the last game where stick skills and basketball knowledge mattered. For me, NBA 2K19 has been really solid, and I get frustrated like everyone else when I have one of "those" games of battling the random stupidity or predetermined (using this term loosely) outcomes. I have a roster offline where I removed all the badges and made some minor tweaks, and the gameplay is night and day different.

[mb625]

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I'm not ready to subscribe to the "the game keeps the score close" theory yet :wink:, lol. Honestly, I just think all various badges add way too many numerical variables while trying to add some element of RNG to make the game "fair". It's like the game can't decide consistently whether to award you for a good a boxout or award the player behind you due to the higher ratings and "hustle rebounder" badge. The PnR is the most abused play, because it simply activates the most badges in one play which mostly negates any defense that's being played.

The presence of badges is the main reason why I've been pushing so hard for a lobby that removes everything (badges, shot meter, playart, etc), and why I believe that NBA 2K11 was still the best H2H game for online matches. NBA 2K11 was the last game where stick skills and basketball knowledge mattered. For me, NBA 2K19 has been really solid, and I get frustrated like everyone else when I have one of "those" games of battling the random stupidity or predetermined (using this term loosely) outcomes. I have a roster offline where I removed all the badges and made some minor tweaks, and the gameplay is night and day different.

I started playing in 16. For my money, that was the best 2k I've played in terms of "the better user wins." Technically I had 13 on the previous gen too, but I never played that online to know how that went.

The other thing, I don't think I'd call it 2k "keeping it close." I think that the game mechanics just lend themselves to making it easier for guys who don't have the most basketball sense to hang around with simple actions. I'm waiting for the 2k where running a set offense is going to beat a vanilla scheme on a consistent basis.

[El_Tercero]

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So mad I can’t get demoted from GOAT league. Soooo tired of getting matched with all time teams no matter what tier I play with.


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[knockinJs]

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It’s really a stupid/cheap way to try to keep “the game” competitive........can they do away with this garbge next year and kinda go old school.......user vs user.

Not better user vs crappier user (plus boosts in all kinds of areas

This is made up and prob why you lose. Users who lose leads/can’t close games and chalk it up to the game and not their lack of adjustments often make this excuse. In this thread and on Reddit.

[mb625]

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This is made up and prob why you lose. Users who lose leads/can’t close games and chalk it up to the game and not their lack of adjustments often make this excuse. In this thread and on Reddit.

Ehhh... maybe, maybe not. I can adjust things all I want, but when I'm losing possessions via random illegal screens off the ball, weird animations off set plays, plays breaking and overall just being somehow less effective than the same look repeatedly, and even when they do work, it seems as though it's even more of a crapshoot as to whether you make the shot than off the plain PNR, there's not a whole lot the user can do. Going back to the Jazz game I mentioned, I changed a bunch of things. To the point where I think I ran out of pauses (dude continued, to his credit). Like, I was changing things up all game, just couldn't make up for all the unforced errors that the game was handing me.

I don't think the answer is that the user is just plain not good. That may be the case occasionally, but I do think that when you get down to it, there are a lot of things within this game that are just plain out of your control and I don't think that's too surprising to anyone.

[knockinJs]

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Ehhh... maybe, maybe not. I can adjust things all I want, but when I'm losing possessions via random illegal screens off the ball, weird animations off set plays, plays breaking and overall just being somehow less effective than the same look repeatedly, and even when they do work, it seems as though it's even more of a crapshoot as to whether you make the shot than off the plain PNR, there's not a whole lot the user can do. Going back to the Jazz game I mentioned, I changed a bunch of things. To the point where I think I ran out of pauses (dude continued, to his credit). Like, I was changing things up all game, just couldn't make up for all the unforced errors that the game was handing me.

I don't think the answer is that the user is just plain not good. That may be the case occasionally, but I do think that when you get down to it, there are a lot of things within this game that are just plain out of your control and I don't think that's too surprising to anyone.

Sure I can agree the animations are out of the user control. That’s just the way it is. The illegal screen is just bad RNG luck. It sucks but that’s sport video games. There isn’t an algorythym in the game that puts the losing player at an advantage. Or the less skilled player, etc.. There’s not a code that says “up by 6, chance of illegal screen jumps from 5% to 50%” that sounds crazy and if it were in the game, somebody would’ve found it by now.

Going from like tier 8 through about the euro league, I won like 18 of 20 games or whatever. The skill level of players at those beginner levels is absolutely atrocious yet I was demolishing competition. Seriously. Take a look at the global weekly and monthly rankings. You have guys sitting in the first tier (think it’s HS off top of my head) going like 50-0.

As ****ty as the OP 3 ball is, I’ve found that I’ve forced more quits this year because noobs at the early levels try to hide on post bigs and don’t know how to defend a pick and pop. I literally had a 30pt half in my 4th or so game with Magic’s nikola vucevic. The guy was absolutely clueless. The OP 3ball gives skilled offensive users a more consistent offense. Which is a pro and con. It’s unrealistic and a Pain in the Butt to defend actually good users but at same time, I’ve lost less games from not respecting my opponent’s skill (this is what it really is; not some attribute boost your opponent gets). The guys who constantly post “the game screwed me again!!” For the the 100th time is prob not actually as good as he actually is. Did MJ ever say “man I’m actually a great 3pter I’m not gonna practice it.” When he’d shoot poorly on the season? No! He actually became respectable by working on it. Same with Magic Johnson, Jason Kidd, etc. they didn’t blame the ball or the size of the hoop.

[Mintsa]

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I’m done for this year boys. See you in September. Good lord was this year a grind like it’s never been before.....

200-124 overall.

100-40 (first hundred wins, so yeah lots of the losses came in the second half of the season).

Worst/most amount of losses ever. Contributed to being stuck in GOAT from win 103 to 200, not using the raptors for those early tier 2/tier 3 league rank up games, getting the perfection trophy so early and losing “the drive” and just overall not being as good as I use to be. I’m old now....

I got the GOAT trophy at win 103 which was my quickest ever.

I used the tier 1 current raptors every chance I could and used them every single game since win 103 as I just repeated the tier 1 GOAT over and over and over again. And did get 2-3 alltime lakers wins because at 2-3 points in the season I went crazy and just needed to reset my mind on how damn easy it is to win with those teams.

So in my mind I used my team whenever I could and still ranked up until I reached the top and then just used my team and road out the second half.

I dashedboarded a zillion times.......it is what it is.........

That’s it. I’ve complained numerous times, no need to re-hash the same. This mode sucks, it’s gettiing worse since it came into affect. I guess there trying to encourage using different teams but the more they change/tweak, the worst it’s getting.

Sometimes less is more, what’s not broke doesn’t need fixing and “the way it use to be” isn’t a bad thing.

I usually post a pic with my stats but I’m sure no one really cares to see it and I’m also pretty sure everyone believes my numbers. I don’t lie, never have here, never will.

Anyways. Good luck to those of you still playing, I’ll check you guys again in early September.

I’m off to the JRC/ProAm where I basically get destroyed by everyone and their mother.....lol. But that doesn’t phase, that’s not my mode and I don’t take it even 1% as seriously as I do PNO. I just waste the spring/summer away fooling around in there just for fun no commitment. I have over/around 200,000 VC I made
from PNO games plus the VC I get with the game, I just “buy my guy” and fun......nothing serious.

Again. Peace out, your all my PNO boys. Good luck. So you in September.