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  • ClipsFanSince98
    Rookie
    • Sep 2015
    • 67

    #46
    Re: How did 2K fall so far from grace? Fan reviews are in

    Originally posted by Yesh2k
    Congrats dude, really happy for you.

    They nerfed the xp across the board by about 30%, the community kicked off, zach promised to put it back as it was, but with an added boost for park players, gave the boost to park players but still nerfed xp for some of us.

    Thanks man! Dang that sucks.

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    • burter
      Rookie
      • Jun 2007
      • 455

      #47
      Re: How did 2K fall so far from grace? Fan reviews are in

      I play offline, so VC doesn't affect me. I see how they don't really care about upsetting people though. It's because little kid Chad telling his mom that he needs money for this new game so he can get stuff. Mom doesn't care so gives him 100 bucks or whatever the cost is.

      2k doesn't need to worry about us for online, they are worried about those teenagers that still live with their parents that have money to hand out. We work for our money, so we aren't going to be handing it out to a game if we feel like they are robbing us. Kids, however, do not care and only care about being number 1. Parents just want a relaxing day after work, so they just hand over the money.

      Only reason they changed their mind is because social media is huge so it can negatively affect them, but they also know that kids and their parents probably the number 1 buyers of VC.
      NFL 2k5 When Sept. Ends.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cuvk8OQNTDc

      Quotes lines from Mr. Schwarzenegger
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      How to not get your a** kicked by the police.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=uj0mtxXEGE8#!

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      • Junior Moe
        MVP
        • Jul 2009
        • 3856

        #48
        Re: How did 2K fall so far from grace? Fan reviews are in

        Originally posted by osk9
        /\
        THIS
        Just play the damn game lol. I never..ever have purchased VC. I always wind up with 2 or three builds in the 90s ovr. I don't get it..maybe I'm a dumb dumb, maybe I'm a naive sucker for buying this game..or...maybe I actually WANT to have to work hard to achieve things. I know..odd concept. Here's another odd concept for some of you folks that aren't happy.

        maybe...just maybe..you're the minority. You deserve to be angry..you deserve to complain..but you're also not the majority. The majority are playing..taking the good with the bad, realising that they can't actually make a better game themselves. Do the same..or don't buy..or do buy and complain..regardless..welcome to the new world of video games. If you think it's going to go away, you're bonkers.

        I'm not telling you guys to just accept this product..but to accept that this is the product. Fight it..speak with your wallet..organise a rally, write your governor, Tweet like a madman..I'm actually with you..I believe in your cause...I just love playing this version of digital basketball and I don't have the strength that you warriors have. Go get em boys..let me know when you have accomplished your mission..I'll gladly give you all the credit for making widesweeping changes to the industry with your vc revolution.

        BUT

        Imma play the socks offa this game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        You'll find that the people who genuinely enjoy the game, play and enjoy it. We collaborate and try to make whatever experience we prefer better. For whatever reason, the ones who hate it or prefer Live or Fortnite spend all their time here complaining and *****ing about one thing or another. There are guys on this forum complaining about the game and they don't even own it. And watch every single one of them somehow end up with the game knowing all these allegedly predatory and unfair practices are still in it.

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        • triplechin
          Pro
          • Jul 2010
          • 594

          #49
          Re: How did 2K fall so far from grace? Fan reviews are in

          Originally posted by 23
          Yes I do. The very first my player had the real grind in it. Combine, summer league..drills,the works.

          You can take a guess why summer league was removed,and it wasn't due to 2kjust wanting it out
          Wasn't all that stuff for offline? I'm good with the grind being whatever you want for offline (which is one reason why I think they should be separate) but for an online game the grind is ridiculous, especially when you're locked into a build and if you have a life and a couple other games in your rotation it makes it really hard to experience more than one or two builds. Bad design for the online aspect.
          51 & 55

          FRANCHISE OVERHAULED
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          PROGRESSION OVERHAULED
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          • Schnoodle321
            Pro
            • Jul 2018
            • 519

            #50
            Re: How did 2K fall so far from grace? Fan reviews are in

            They lost me as a long time fan.
            Their target audience is the fornite crowd now who love meaningless additions and throw money at them through micro transactions which really, if people continue to do it they can’t be blamed for.
            But nba basketball has taken a back seat for a game that has nba in the title which is really unfortunate

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            • prestwood90
              Banned
              • Nov 2013
              • 1253

              #51
              Re: How did 2K fall so far from grace? Fan reviews are in

              Take two simply takes advantage of modern day society’s impatience, but modern day entitlement also affects the reviews lol double edged sword


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              • Junior Moe
                MVP
                • Jul 2009
                • 3856

                #52
                Re: How did 2K fall so far from grace? Fan reviews are in

                Originally posted by Schnoodle321
                They lost me as a long time fan.
                Their target audience is the fornite crowd now who love meaningless additions and throw money at them through micro transactions which really, if people continue to do it they can’t be blamed for.
                But nba basketball has taken a back seat for a game that has nba in the title which is really unfortunate
                So why are you here? Serious question.

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                • 23
                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #53
                  Re: How did 2K fall so far from grace? Fan reviews are in

                  Originally posted by Schnoodle321
                  They lost me as a long time fan.
                  Their target audience is the fornite crowd now who love meaningless additions and throw money at them through micro transactions which really, if people continue to do it they can’t be blamed for.
                  But nba basketball has taken a back seat for a game that has nba in the title which is really unfortunate
                  From whats being played NBA basketball has not taken a backseat.

                  There are definitely things in this game that are straight up NBA, from signature styles, mannerisms, offenses, team schemes, series offenses, freelances, team defensive schemes, MyLeague, MyGM, and so on.

                  While i do wish they'd do a bit more, looking at metrics, those other modes demand attention too.

                  Cant say the same for NBA Live though.

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                  • Detroit Red
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 124

                    #54
                    Re: How did 2K fall so far from grace? Fan reviews are in

                    I just watched Jim Sterling essentially call the game absolute trash due to the micro-transactions and I was shaking my head the whole time. The comment section for that video was so hard to read, they just see 2K as a dumb sports game that releases each year with no changes and extorts their idiotic fanbase with micro-transactions.

                    The perception non sports gamers have over this stuff is so radicalized their opinions are practically irrelevant. "Journalists" like Jim Sterling have the loudest voices and the least experience or knowledge of the game so it's impossible to take them seriously.

                    Offline this 2k19 is exceptional and the hard work gone into each game mode, AI and everything else should be pretty evident for those that sit down and actually play it.

                    That's my 2 cents.

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                    • ranger91
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 46

                      #55
                      Re: How did 2K fall so far from grace? Fan reviews are in

                      Originally posted by Jaysonguy
                      The reason you're not seeing the sales drop is that they did a bait and switch.



                      They paid to have everyone on social media spread that the earnings were fixed and not as outright evil this year. Once the game launched and early access then started doing well with rewards that led more to buy it. Now that people are invested in the game and those who were going to avoid it didn't because the VC problem was fixed they went and changed it.


                      Don’t really follow sales news that closely to know what you’re referring to exactly, I just feel like most of their sales are from people like me. People who bought the previous years game, enjoyed playing it, and buy it again next year. Games like this that come out every year won’t survive if they don’t have a large percentage of returning costumers that bough the year before and decide to purchase again. If people hated it so much, the return customer base wouldn’t be there year after year.


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                      • T.B
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2018
                        • 115

                        #56
                        Re: How did 2K fall so far from grace? Fan reviews are in

                        Originally posted by Schnoodle321
                        They lost me as a long time fan.
                        Their target audience is the fornite crowd now who love meaningless additions and throw money at them through micro transactions which really, if people continue to do it they can’t be blamed for.
                        But nba basketball has taken a back seat for a game that has nba in the title which is really unfortunate
                        Really ? This is the best gameplay in years

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                        • goillini03
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 1247

                          #57
                          Re: How did 2K fall so far from grace? Fan reviews are in

                          Originally posted by Schnoodle321
                          They lost me as a long time fan.

                          Their target audience is the fornite crowd now who love meaningless additions and throw money at them through micro transactions which really, if people continue to do it they can’t be blamed for.

                          But nba basketball has taken a back seat for a game that has nba in the title which is really unfortunate


                          I just played a great game in my league that was the best NBA basketball experience that I can remember. Not sure what game you are referring to, but is it not 2k19.

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                          • Black Bruce Wayne
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2015
                            • 1459

                            #58
                            Re: How did 2K fall so far from grace? Fan reviews are in

                            Originally posted by tetoleetd
                            i understand the frustration with the microtransactions.



                            but as an offline only player(i might jump online to play with friends occasionally but thats it) i realllllly dont care about how bad the microtransactions are. it effects me 0%.



                            so i just want people like me to know that they should not be discouraged by the poor user reviews if you mostly just stick to myleague and dont care about making your myplayer a 99 overall.
                            This has been my thing since myplayer became not so fun anymore. I'll keep myself in myleague

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                            • Black Bruce Wayne
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2015
                              • 1459

                              #59
                              Re: How did 2K fall so far from grace? Fan reviews are in

                              Originally posted by ClipsFanSince98
                              https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/nba-2k19

                              Yikes. 2.6 fan/audience score out of 10. Mainly due to accusations of pay to win and insane grinding. Has 2K gotten too greedy?
                              I think the bad reviews come from microtransactions and kids who cant cheese the way they want to. It's a tough balance

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                              • jk31
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 2654

                                #60
                                Re: How did 2K fall so far from grace? Fan reviews are in

                                the reason why i would give them a Bad score is Not because of An vc related Stuff. i dont even Touch these myplayer Modes or MyTeam. the reason is simply because every year they take something away that worked before.
                                right now, the online Leagues, which are the only Mode i Play on a regular Basis and the only reason i buy this game, are just filled with Bugs and errors.

                                they praised their New Series System but in online Leagues you cant access Series Nor can you edit your Playbook with normal plays, as 50% of plays right now are Not accessible.
                                they also made Things harder, by reintroducing the necessity to advance the week through the calendar. a state where we have already been 6 years ago in nba 2k13 and a state where we Know that it brings Problem to the Mode.
                                when Player get injured, the game gets stuck in that state.
                                what others mentioned is that contract extensions are Not possible during the season and restrictedfree agency is Not working.

                                that Mode in short words went from fully funktional (regards to what was supposed to be possible) to completely broken down because of so many errors.

                                thanks 2k,another year where i stand There Not even a week after Release and think, that it's another wasted year.... 2k20 cannot come fast enough.

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