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  • Baebae32
    Pro
    • Nov 2015
    • 880

    #226
    Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster

    YAK. What would you give Draymond for shot IQ

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    • youALREADYknow
      MVP
      • Aug 2008
      • 3635

      #227
      Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster

      Originally posted by Baebae32
      YAK. What would you give Draymond for shot IQ
      He's a 50 Shot IQ in the roster. He takes a lot of spot up jump shots, but isn't rushing into open looks. He also doesn't take many shots off the dribble.

      The difference between him and the players at 25 (Giannis/Simmons) is that he still takes spot up 3's at a higher rate. Giannis takes more off the dribble jumpers facing gap coverage than he does catch-and-shoot looks.

      If he keeps turning down open spot ups, then I'd drop him to 25. Draymond and Roberson were two of the toughest players to decide on because they get so many open looks from defenses focusing on their elite teammates.
      Last edited by youALREADYknow; 12-27-2018, 01:36 PM.

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      • JBCAROLINAKID
        MVP
        • Jun 2009
        • 1039

        #228
        Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster (X1)

        Do u have a roster up that has the shot iq done for all players? I'd love to give them a try

        Sent from my SM-T350 using Operation Sports mobile app
        "Aim for the bushes"

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        • YogurtProducer
          Pro
          • Sep 2012
          • 508

          #229
          Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster

          Originally posted by youALREADYknow
          He's a 50 Shot IQ in the roster. He takes a lot of spot up jump shots, but isn't rushing into open looks. He also doesn't take many shots off the dribble.

          The difference between him and the players at 25 (Giannis/Simmons) is that he still takes spot up 3's at a higher rate. Giannis takes more off the dribble jumpers facing gap coverage than he does catch-and-shoot looks.

          If he keeps turning down open spot ups, then I'd drop him to 25. Draymond and Roberson were two of the toughest players to decide on because they get so many open looks from defenses focusing on their elite teammates.
          Hey man. Your PMs are full

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          • taildog
            MVP
            • Jun 2008
            • 1161

            #230
            Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster

            Originally posted by youALREADYknow
            It's probably a good time to describe what some of the shooting attributes control in the game engine.



            Mid/3PT Open: Open stand-still jump shot percentage.

            Mid/3PT Contested: Contested stand-still jump shot percentage.

            Mid/3PT Move: Pull-up and special move (spin, stepback, sidestep, etc.) jump shot percentage.

            Shot IQ: How quickly a player recognizes they have an open shot after catching a pass and transitions from the catch animation to a shooting animation.



            These definitions all come from 2K game devs in gameplay blogs or posts on these forums (Mike Wang, Mike Stauffer, Czar).



            You will see preset Shot IQ attributes based on the type of shots that a player typically seeks to score off. Here's how the scale breaks down:

            25 for players that don't seek to catch-and-shoot

            50 for players that seek to score off the dribble and rarely catch-and-shoot (most primary ball handlers)

            60 for stretch bigs and wings that get spot up looks

            75 for good/great spot up shooters and catch-and-shoot specialists

            90 for elite spot up shooters with quick releases

            95 for the best off-ball shooters in history



            Open/Contested/Move ratings are based on the last 3 years of shot data. Manual common sense adjustments are made for players with a low shot count, especially rookies and bench players.


            How does this Shot IQ adjustment impact bigs in the post? I don’t see why they should have lower shot IQs as they should be seeking easy layups/hooks (the best shot in the game).

            Also this will impact system proficiency ratings as well, so everyone who cares should be aware of that.
            NBA 2K23 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

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            • JBCAROLINAKID
              MVP
              • Jun 2009
              • 1039

              #231
              Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster

              Originally posted by youALREADYknow
              It's probably a good time to describe what some of the shooting attributes control in the game engine.

              Mid/3PT Open: Open stand-still jump shot percentage.
              Mid/3PT Contested: Contested stand-still jump shot percentage.
              Mid/3PT Move: Pull-up and special move (spin, stepback, sidestep, etc.) jump shot percentage.
              Shot IQ: How quickly a player recognizes they have an open shot after catching a pass and transitions from the catch animation to a shooting animation.

              These definitions all come from 2K game devs in gameplay blogs or posts on these forums (Mike Wang, Mike Stauffer, Czar).

              You will see preset Shot IQ attributes based on the type of shots that a player typically seeks to score off. Here's how the scale breaks down:
              25 for players that don't seek to catch-and-shoot
              50 for players that seek to score off the dribble and rarely catch-and-shoot (most primary ball handlers)
              60 for stretch bigs and wings that get spot up looks
              75 for good/great spot up shooters and catch-and-shoot specialists
              90 for elite spot up shooters with quick releases
              95 for the best off-ball shooters in history

              Open/Contested/Move ratings are based on the last 3 years of shot data. Manual common sense adjustments are made for players with a low shot count, especially rookies and bench players.
              I tried these IQ edits out on my personal roster and like the results I'm seeing. Do you have a rough scale you go by like this for the iso tendencies and if so what is it?

              Sent from my SM-T350 using Operation Sports mobile app
              "Aim for the bushes"

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              • youALREADYknow
                MVP
                • Aug 2008
                • 3635

                #232
                Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster

                Originally posted by taildog
                How does this Shot IQ adjustment impact bigs in the post? I don’t see why they should have lower shot IQs as they should be seeking easy layups/hooks (the best shot in the game).

                Also this will impact system proficiency ratings as well, so everyone who cares should be aware of that.
                It doesn't seem to control anything in the post. Post tendencies and attributes control what a player does when they get the ball in post up scenarios. It also doesn't impact shooting when driving to the basket (i.e. fastbreaks).

                The Shot IQ attribute is specifically for catch and shoot scenarios based on my testing and previous forum posts by 2K devs.

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                • youALREADYknow
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 3635

                  #233
                  Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster (X1)

                  Originally posted by JBCAROLINAKID
                  Do u have a roster up that has the shot iq done for all players? I'd love to give them a try

                  Sent from my SM-T350 using Operation Sports mobile app
                  Download the v0.3 roster on 2KShare. Shot IQ is set for all current players (except missing players).

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                  • jakalfc
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 1615

                    #234
                    Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster (X1)

                    When will the vol1 be ready to enjoy the game by starting a mylegue?

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                    There is no particular team, I am a European with a passion for the NBA

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                    • DC
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 17996

                      #235
                      Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster (X1)

                      My man, I see you putting in work.

                      I trust you.

                      Welcome back
                      Concrete evidence/videos please

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                      • youALREADYknow
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 3635

                        #236
                        Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster (X1)

                        Originally posted by napoli
                        When will the vol1 be ready to enjoy the game by starting a mylegue?
                        I'm still trying to have it ready in early January. About two weeks away at this pace.

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                        • jetsman92
                          Rookie
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 388

                          #237
                          Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster (X1)

                          Originally posted by youALREADYknow
                          I'm still trying to have it ready in early January. About two weeks away at this pace.
                          Looking forward to this roster... From what I've tested it seems perfect... I'm gonna try it with the shot iq edits tonight... That seems intriguing to me

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                          • LockdownD_23
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2018
                            • 12

                            #238
                            Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster (X1)

                            Will this be available for PS4? Great work!

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                            • richmo
                              Almighty 2k Paper Champ
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 709

                              #239
                              Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster

                              What differentiates Shot IQ from the Shot tendencies? Seems redundant IMO.

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                              • taildog
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 1161

                                #240
                                Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster

                                Originally posted by youALREADYknow
                                It doesn't seem to control anything in the post. Post tendencies and attributes control what a player does when they get the ball in post up scenarios. It also doesn't impact shooting when driving to the basket (i.e. fastbreaks).



                                The Shot IQ attribute is specifically for catch and shoot scenarios based on my testing and previous forum posts by 2K devs.


                                Testing both in-game play and simulation?
                                NBA 2K23 - OFFICIAL TRIANGLE SYSTEM THREAD

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