2K19: Return of The Sim Roster

[ch46647]

Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster

I realize your goal is to optimize on-court gameplay, which I am more than confident this roster will excel when complete.

Do you test these in MyLeague for relatively accurate SimStats?

[youALREADYknow]

Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster

I realize your goal is to optimize on-court gameplay, which I am more than confident this roster will excel when complete.

Do you test these in MyLeague for relatively accurate SimStats?

I used to be in the simulated over gameplay camp when it came to tendencies, but it's hard to do when a game needs so much help from tendencies to get sim gameplay. I'm usually the guy simulating 1,000's of seasons to get things exact too so it's tough to give up on that goal for now.

Attributes such as shooting, passing, rebounding, blocks, and steals will all be tuned for simulation stats.
Tendencies will be tuned for gameplay based on custom scales. The values will based on real-world stats, but not tied to the scale from the 2K simulation engine.

The most obvious differences you'll see are in shot selection and shot location. Most players take a lot more Inside/Close shots in real life than will play out in the sim engine with this roster. In gameplay, you'll see with crazy low tendency shot location values everyone is still taking a ton of Inside/Close shots.

[tylerjbrock33]

Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster (X1)

So this is for xbox?

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[tylerjbrock33]

Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster (X1)

Nvm just saw X1 in one of youre earlier post. Thats very very unfortunate

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[youALREADYknow]

Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster

I'm already seeing some differences in CPU/AI play that weren't listed in the patch notes. Going to take more time to retest everything to make sure it's real.

- CPU players are back to rushing some contested close range jump shots.
- Player speed feels different, the animations feel slower than before with the same movement settings. Might have to raise Speed With Ball and Speed Without Ball Max ranges because guys look like they are running in mud now.

[ch46647]

Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster

I used to be in the simulated over gameplay camp when it came to tendencies, but it's hard to do when a game needs so much help from tendencies to get sim gameplay. I'm usually the guy simulating 1,000's of seasons to get things exact too so it's tough to give up on that goal for now.

Attributes such as shooting, passing, rebounding, blocks, and steals will all be tuned for simulation stats.
Tendencies will be tuned for gameplay based on custom scales. The values will based on real-world stats, but not tied to the scale from the 2K simulation engine.

The most obvious differences you'll see are in shot selection and shot location. Most players take a lot more Inside/Close shots in real life than will play out in the sim engine with this roster. In gameplay, you'll see with crazy low tendency shot location values everyone is still taking a ton of Inside/Close shots.

Sounds good to me. Thank you for the reply. I’m don’t obsess over SIM stats, if it’s in the ball park that’s fine by me. Gameplay is far more important to me, personally.

[ch46647]

Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster

I'm already seeing some differences in CPU/AI play that weren't listed in the patch notes. Going to take more time to retest everything to make sure it's real.

- CPU players are back to rushing some contested close range jump shots.
- Player speed feels different, the animations feel slower than before with the same movement settings. Might have to raise Speed With Ball and Speed Without Ball Max ranges because guys look like they are running in mud now.

I played a little scrimmage mode this morning. Everything felt about the same to me, but I don’t notice the intricacies like you and many others on this site.

Please let me know when you update the sliders/roster, and I will make sure to download.

[ch46647]

Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster

I'm already seeing some differences in CPU/AI play that weren't listed in the patch notes. Going to take more time to retest everything to make sure it's real.

- CPU players are back to rushing some contested close range jump shots.
- Player speed feels different, the animations feel slower than before with the same movement settings. Might have to raise Speed With Ball and Speed Without Ball Max ranges because guys look like they are running in mud now.

I’ve been playing around in practice mode, but decided to play a “play now” game. Bucks (CPU) vs Warriors (user).

- Giannis had three fouls in the first quarter and the Bucks left him in the game. I believe you mentioned you updated the rotations. Personally, I do not use this feature because the CPU will not sub players in foul trouble. They will always stick to your rotation settings.

Is there a way to disable this for the CPU? I realize it is not an issue for the USER as we can manually control our subs.

- Are these sliders ideal for “real fg %” or shot timing?

Thank you!!

[youALREADYknow]

Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster

I’ve been playing around in practice mode, but decided to play a “play now” game. Bucks (CPU) vs Warriors (user).

- Giannis had three fouls in the first quarter and the Bucks left him in the game. I believe you mentioned you updated the rotations. Personally, I do not use this feature because the CPU will not sub players in foul trouble. They will always stick to your rotation settings.

Is there a way to disable this for the CPU? I realize it is not an issue for the USER as we can manually control our subs.

- Are these sliders ideal for “real fg %” or shot timing?

Thank you!!

1. I'm not sure if the AI will override rotations, but will do some testing with settings to see. I've been disappointed overall with the substitution patterns once the game goes off script and I'm not sure whether the general settings apply to CPU teams.
2. I've done all testing on Shot Timing so far. If you or anyone uses Real FG%, please post what kind of percentages you're getting.

[youALREADYknow]

Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster

Quick Update: I'm still adjusting post-patch to see how to deal with the changes and trying to tune some of the ranges for contested jumpers to improve who is taking shots in the half court offense.

I haven't added any new teams yet, but will focus on getting the Celtics and Jazz in the next release. Hopefully I'll have a new version (v0.2) of the roster and sliders by Sunday.

After we get to around 10 teams and 2K stops patching the game every week, then I'll need a long time to update the rest of the league (v1.0) and probably a break before starting on a MyLeague ready file. Hopefully the database will be further along by then to make it quicker to update each team.

[ch46647]

Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster

Quick Update: I'm still adjusting post-patch to see how to deal with the changes and trying to tune some of the ranges for contested jumpers to improve who is taking shots in the half court offense.

I haven't added any new teams yet, but will focus on getting the Celtics and Jazz in the next release. Hopefully I'll have a new version (v0.2) of the roster and sliders by Sunday.

After we get to around 10 teams and 2K stops patching the game every week, then I'll need a long time to update the rest of the league (v1.0) and probably a break before starting on a MyLeague ready file. Hopefully the database will be further along by then to make it quicker to update each team.

Sounds great! I’m really looking forward to seeing what you can do with Lebron and Westbrook down the line! What is the difference between version 1.0 and a MyLeague ready file?

Thanks!

[youALREADYknow]

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Sounds great! I’m really looking forward to seeing what you can do with Lebron and Westbrook down the line! What is the difference between version 1.0 and a MyLeague ready file?

Thanks!

I'm really trying to lock down this drive/kick/attack behavior from the AI before getting to them. It should be fun to set those squads up!

The MyLeague ready file will have free agents edited to scale, updated contracts and vitals, updated potential ratings, minor tweaks to intangibles for overall ratings to improve rotations/signings, and some guidance on MyLeague sliders to use with the roster.

I'm still going to update potential ratings and player movement in the version 1.0 roster, but the roster is more focused on gameplay than MyLeague.

[youALREADYknow]

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I'm finally happy with the drive/kick game and ball movement. ACE is killing me, but nothing we can do about that except wait for updates.

Here's the last stream of MIL (User) vs HOU (CPU) in Player Lock: https://mixer.com/youALREADYknow?vod=60842967

I'm updating rotations based on recent transactions and then working on BOS and UTA. Next version will be ready for the weekend.

[ch46647]

Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster

I'm finally happy with the drive/kick game and ball movement. ACE is killing me, but nothing we can do about that except wait for updates.

Here's the last stream of MIL (User) vs HOU (CPU) in Player Lock: https://mixer.com/youALREADYknow?vod=60842967

I'm updating rotations based on recent transactions and then working on BOS and UTA. Next version will be ready for the weekend.

What are you seeing as the biggest limitations caused by ACE to the CPU controlled teams?

[youALREADYknow]

Re: 2K19: Return of The Sim Roster

What are you seeing as the biggest limitations caused by ACE to the CPU controlled teams?

Play calling on offense, but only for certain teams. They run the same freelance sets over and over which can get predictable. I'm consistently able to stop/disrupt the half court offense of certain CPU controlled teams for 3-4 minute stretches just because I know what they are going to run every time down the floor based on the first pass.

The defensive issues with ACE can all be fixed in MyLeague with customized Coach Gameplans for Defense. The gameplay I'm able to get in MyLeague/MyGM/Season modes with custom Coach Gameplans is so much better than Play Now because the help defense and switch logic makes a huge difference on how offenses attack. Guys like Harden or Giannis are almost guaranteed 40 point games with lower assist totals every time in Play Now, but that's because ACE is the only system controlling defensive logic.