Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

[DarthRambo]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

The more I think about it the better it sounds. I'm not sure what he's worth. I think you said it is the Nets pick? that should be pretty early in the 2nd round. I guess thats pretty fair.

yeah, the Warriors own the Nets 2nd rd pick for 2012 so I'd give the Suns that...basically the way I look at it is the Suns are getting a free young rookie for Grant Hill. Warriors are getting screwed more than the Suns IMO lol

[bedwardsroy19]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Like many of you pointed out, you can only make it as realistic as 2K will let you. That being said, here are some of the trades I made in mine.

Portland gives up Wesley Matthews, Gerald Wallace, Lottery protected 2012 1st Rounder

Lakers give up Metta World Peace, Devin Ebanks, Darius Morris, Andrew Goudelock, Unprotected 2012 1st Rounder

Sixers give up Andre Iguodala, Tony Battie, Craig Brackins

Portland receives Andre Iguodala

Lakers recevie Gerald Wallace, Tony Battie, Craig Brackins

Sixers receive Wesley Matthews, Devin Ebanks, Darius Morris, Andrew Goudeluck, Metta World Peace (Amnestied), LAL 2012 1st Rounder, POR 2012 1st rounder (lottery protected)

This next trade I pretended that Sacramento had their backs against the wall, and the Cousins situation was not resolved...

Warriors give up Ekpe Udoh, Klay Thompson, Kwame Brown, Charles Jenkins, 2013 top 8 protected 1st round pick

Kings give up DeMarcus Cousins, Francisco Garcia (Bad contract)

Okay here is my Howard trade, not really sure about this one but it was good enough for me...

Dallas gives up Ian Mahinmi, Brendan Haywood, Lamar Odom, Shawn Marion, Vince Carter, 2012 unprotected 1st Rounder, 2014 unrotected first rounder

Orlando gives up Dwight Howard, Hedo Turkoglu, Larry Hughes, Earl Clark

And naturally had to pair Howard with Williams

Nets give up Deron Williams, Johan Petro

Mavericks give up Jason Kidd, Jason Terry, Rodrigue Beaubois, 2013 unprotected 1st rounder, 2015 unprotected 1st rounder, 2016 lottery protected 1st rounder

Finally I had to do a trade for my Cavs... I realize this might not be entirely fair lol

Cavs give up Ramon Sessions, Omri Casspi, Rights to Sacramento's first rounder

Grizzlies give up OJ Mayo

[zay916]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Guys, i know it's your association, but i really don't see nash and hill getting moved irl. They both wanna retire as suns, and once they retire, the suns can start the rebuilding process.
PS. Bedwardsroy19, can you make edits to aaron brooks and just put all his ratings on a CAP in a draft class?
I already started my association and i really want to rebuild the suns.

[Dpauley23]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Portland gives up Wesley Matthews, Gerald Wallace, Lottery protected 2012 1st Rounder

Lakers give up Metta World Peace, Devin Ebanks, Darius Morris, Andrew Goudelock, Unprotected 2012 1st Rounder

Sixers give up Andre Iguodala, Tony Battie, Craig Brackins

Portland receives Andre Iguodala

Lakers recevie Gerald Wallace, Tony Battie, Craig Brackins

Sixers receive Wesley Matthews, Devin Ebanks, Darius Morris, Andrew Goudeluck, Metta World Peace (Amnestied), LAL 2012 1st Rounder, POR 2012 1st rounder (lottery protected)

The only problem is that you can't amnesty players once their traded. So Sixers wouldn't be able to amnesty Metta WorldPeace

[bedwardsroy19]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

The only problem is that you can't amnesty players once their traded. So Sixers wouldn't be able to amnesty Metta WorldPeace

I guess I will just have the Lakers amnesty him to begin with.

[Damien7]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Finally found a solution to get Granger to my Clippers.

Clippers get: Danny Granger and Austin Daye
Pacers get: Ben Gordon, Charlie Villanueva, Eric Bledsoe, Randy Foye and 1st pick 2013 ( from LAC )
Pistons get: Mo Williams, Dahntay Jones, Jeff Foster, Terrico White and 2nd pick 2012 ( from Pacers, who are doing a very bad season for now ).

Seems not fair for the Pistons but it really is though, they have now three pick for the 2012 draft, and also before this trade they were 8M$ over the salary cap, after the trade they are 9M$ under the cap.
Clippers have now a strong 5, but the bench is very limited, only one player over 70 ovr. Pacers still have a solid 5 and solid bench, hope this will help them to improve their season because they only are 13th in the East for now.

Did some modifications regarding position so the new starting 5 are

LAC: Paul/Butler/Granger/Griffin/Jordan ( sixth man is Billups )

PAC: Collison/B.Gordon/George/West/Hibbert ( sixth man is Hansbrough )

PIS: Mo Williams/Stuckey/Prince/Maxiell/Monroe ( sixth man is Jones ).

What you think ?

[Dpauley23]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

I guess I will just have the Lakers amnesty him to begin with.

The amnesty wouldn't transfer to 76ers though

[Dpauley23]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Finally found a solution to get Granger to my Clippers.

Clippers get: Danny Granger and Austin Daye
Pacers get: Ben Gordon, Charlie Villanueva, Eric Bledsoe, Randy Foye and 1st pick 2013 ( from LAC )
Pistons get: Mo Williams, Dahntay Jones, Jeff Foster, Terrico White and 2nd pick 2012 ( from Pacers, who are doing a very bad season for now ).

Seems not fair for the Pistons but it really is though, they have now three pick for the 2012 draft, and also before this trade they were 8M$ over the salary cap, after the trade they are 9M$ under the cap.
Clippers have now a strong 5, but the bench is very limited, only one player over 70 ovr. Pacers still have a solid 5 and solid bench, hope this will help them to improve their season because they only are 13th in the East for now.

Did some modifications regarding position so the new starting 5 are

LAC: Paul/Butler/Granger/Griffin/Jordan ( sixth man is Billups )

PAC: Collison/B.Gordon/George/West/Hibbert ( sixth man is Hansbrough )

PIS: Mo Williams/Stuckey/Prince/Maxiell/Monroe ( sixth man is Jones ).

What you think ?

The Pacers are getting screwed. None of the players they received are better than Granger and you took away their future cap space to sign players

[bedwardsroy19]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

The amnesty wouldn't transfer to 76ers though

I didnt start the season before the move was made...

Either way it happened before season so Artest would be a free agent

[SiRRreal]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Can someone explain how to amnesty a player?

[DarthRambo]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Finally found a solution to get Granger to my Clippers.

Clippers get: Danny Granger and Austin Daye
Pacers get: Ben Gordon, Charlie Villanueva, Eric Bledsoe, Randy Foye and 1st pick 2013 ( from LAC )
Pistons get: Mo Williams, Dahntay Jones, Jeff Foster, Terrico White and 2nd pick 2012 ( from Pacers, who are doing a very bad season for now ).

Seems not fair for the Pistons but it really is though, they have now three pick for the 2012 draft, and also before this trade they were 8M$ over the salary cap, after the trade they are 9M$ under the cap.
Clippers have now a strong 5, but the bench is very limited, only one player over 70 ovr. Pacers still have a solid 5 and solid bench, hope this will help them to improve their season because they only are 13th in the East for now.

Did some modifications regarding position so the new starting 5 are

LAC: Paul/Butler/Granger/Griffin/Jordan ( sixth man is Billups )

PAC: Collison/B.Gordon/George/West/Hibbert ( sixth man is Hansbrough )

PIS: Mo Williams/Stuckey/Prince/Maxiell/Monroe ( sixth man is Jones ).

What you think ?

Pacers trade Granger for Ben Gordon?? Not gonna happen...Trading Foster and Jones(both on expiring contracts too? Not gonna happen...Only way Pacers trade Granger if they get a SG in the likes of Eric Gordon, or a Kevin Martin; not an almost 29yr old, past his prime Ben Gordon who is a better 6th man not a starter.

Pistons trade a young prospect in Daye for Mo Williams? Only guy Pistons trade is Prince to get rid of his contract

[qpc123]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Ok, so after about month in my association the Magic are 4-8 and the Nets and Lakers are 6-7.

I'm thinking of moving Dwight, most likely to the Nets. Here's a 3-team trade I've been working on.

Nets get:
D. Howard from ORL
G. Henderson from CHA

Magic get:
Okur from NJ
Maggette fron CHA
Diaw from CHA
2012 1st round pick from NJ
2013 2nd round pick from NJ

Bobcats get:
Turkoglu from ORL
Lopez from NJ
A. Morrow from NJ
2012 2nd round pick from NJ
2013 1st round pick from NJ

Nets basically give up on the Draft for 2 years but they get Dwight to go with D. Will.

Magic get Maggette to replace Turkoglu, Okur and Diaw are on 1 year deals and NJ first rounder 2012, 2nd rounder 2013.

Bobcats get Hedo which is kinda sucky but they also get Lopez, Morrow and a first rounder in 2013. Perhaps not that realistic but, let's face facts. a)Bobcats are going nowhere in the next few years and no big name FA's will sign there. b) Jordan isn't exactly a great GM(Kwame Brown anyone) and has a history of making questionable deals. c)Charlotte gets to help weaken a team in there own division by taking Hedo and clearing the way for Dwight to leave. Adding Hedo and Morrow also gives them some outside shooting which they are lacking.

I feel like if Orlando were to trade Dwight for anyone other than Bynum they would most likely have to blow up the roster. They are built around having Dwight down low and surrounding him with 3-point shooters. This gives them some CAP space(not a lot but some) and they will pretty much be in the running for a high lottery pick to go with the one they get form Jersey. Also, Maggette is on a 2 yr deal so they will have a lot of CAP space in 2013, the 2012 FA class isn't that great and Orlando should be able to draw a big name FA at some point, like they did with Grant Hill(though that was disaster due to his injuries).

Your thoughts?

[Adomluka]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Ok, so after about month in my association the Magic are 4-8 and the Nets and Lakers are 6-7.

I'm thinking of moving Dwight, most likely to the Nets. Here's a 3-team trade I've been working on.

Nets get:
D. Howard from ORL
G. Henderson from CHA

Magic get:
Okur from NJ
Maggette fron CHA
Diaw from CHA
2012 1st round pick from NJ
2013 2nd round pick from NJ

Bobcats get:
Turkoglu from ORL
Lopez from NJ
A. Morrow from NJ
2012 2nd round pick from NJ
2013 1st round pick from NJ

Nets basically give up on the Draft for 2 years but they get Dwight to go with D. Will.

Magic get Maggette to replace Turkoglu, Okur and Diaw are on 1 year deals and NJ first rounder 2012, 2nd rounder 2013.

Bobcats get Hedo which is kinda sucky but they also get Lopez, Morrow and a first rounder in 2013. Perhaps not that realistic but, let's face facts. a)Bobcats are going nowhere in the next few years and no big name FA's will sign there. b) Jordan isn't exactly a great GM(Kwame Brown anyone) and has a history of making questionable deals. c)Charlotte gets to help weaken a team in there own division by taking Hedo and clearing the way for Dwight to leave. Adding Hedo and Morrow also gives them some outside shooting which they are lacking.

I feel like if Orlando were to trade Dwight for anyone other than Bynum they would most likely have to blow up the roster. They are built around having Dwight down low and surrounding him with 3-point shooters. This gives them some CAP space(not a lot but some) and they will pretty much be in the running for a high lottery pick to go with the one they get form Jersey. Also, Maggette is on a 2 yr deal so they will have a lot of CAP space in 2013, the 2012 FA class isn't that great and Orlando should be able to draw a big name FA at some point, like they did with Grant Hill(though that was disaster due to his injuries).

Your thoughts?

I ran this through the ESPN trade machine and got this:
With this trade you have decreased the Orlando Magic's projected wins by 18, and increased New Jersey's projected wins by 16.

The Magic want a good athletic big man in return for Howard, not Okur. In my opinion, the Magic could do way better for themselves come the trade deadline.

[Steven123]

Re: Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

Any trade for Dwight to Nets have to involve Magics getting Lopez. The Magic still want to win, they're not in rebuilding mode

[qpc123]

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Any trade for Dwight to Nets have to involve Magics getting Lopez. The Magic still want to win, they're not in rebuilding mode

While true in real life in my alternate NBA universe they are terrible at the moment at rebuilding may be there best bet.

That said I'm going to hold off for now as New Jersey is still competitive and may be better off trying for Dwight in the offseason.

Thanks for the input.