NBA 2K13 Hands-On Preview From 2K Sports Team Up (vannwolfhawk)

[iLLosophy]

Re: NBA 2K13 Hands-On Preview From 2K Sports Team Up (vannwolfhawk)

Just one thing I wanted to address

It has always bugged me when the post entry pass is made and I go to double team the post with my guard and I swipe at the ball 10+ times without even touching it. I loved how this was in the early years and I believe it was 2k1 with “the glove”. That being said it was mixed because I did go down and swipe with LBJ once and knocked the ball out. Other times I would still swipe away (testing purposesJ) to no avail. I think the post player shouldn’t have all day to make a post move. If the double comes they should pass out and swing the ball to the open man and make the defense pay for doubling down on them, but at the same time I don’t think the offense should receive such an advantage in the post to have all day to make a move and back guys down. In real life, post players need to make decisions quickly so I would like to see that better implemented.

This is fine if you are playing single player, but in a User vs User game your suggestion would be problematic. In this scenario, the double teamer's biggest weakness is he's turning his back to the man he's supposed to be guarding. In real life, that guy would be free to get open without his defender knowning. That doesn't hold when playing user vs user because both players can see the entire court. This is one of those cases where "don't play video games, play basketball" philosophy doesn't hold. So there needs to be some leeway for post players when playing against other humans. This is even more problematic if the offense player who's not being guarded is just standing in one place (from your read and shady's, it sounds like this might've been addressed).

[Goffs]

Re: NBA 2K13 Hands-On Preview From 2K Sports Team Up (vannwolfhawk)

great read! now I look forward to the playbook insight.

[aloncho11]

Re: NBA 2K13 Hands-On Preview From 2K Sports Team Up (vannwolfhawk)

Very nice read. Despite being a hardcore sim guy, your review really sums up pretty well every single aspect of this game. And like you said, I also have the feeling this will be the best basketball game so far.

[NYCD@Future]

Good article.. So you are saying that Spin Dunks is back in 2k13?? Have you seen it..

[LD2k]

Great stuff! I might add this man had an entire book full of notes - was very happy as he was able to sit down with Rob Jones, personally, and get through his notes.

[eko718]

Re: NBA 2K13 Hands-On Preview From 2K Sports Team Up (vannwolfhawk)

Great read, thanks for the write-up. I like what I've heard from you and smallz...getting excited all over again.

[fsufan4423]

Re: NBA 2K13 Hands-On Preview From 2K Sports Team Up (vannwolfhawk)

Props for the write up in great detail. Can't wait to play this game.

[mrmass413]

How was the walk up animations....thanx for you impression it was very nice to read you covered alot

[spankdatazz22]

Re: NBA 2K13 Hands-On Preview From 2K Sports Team Up (vannwolfhawk)

Excellent, very detailed read. Enjoyed it!

[chandlerbang]

Re: NBA 2K13 Hands-On Preview From 2K Sports Team Up (vannwolfhawk)

Incredible write-up.

My favorite addition might be the players able to get hot. It's been missing in bball games since forever.

Question:
Did you see any issues with rebounding. Guys jumping straight up and bending their arms toward the ball instead of having their entire body jump towards the ball for rebounds? I've seen it in several videos and hoping to get an answer on it if any of you there noticed it as well.

thats been in the last 6 2k bball games bro.

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: NBA 2K13 Hands-On Preview From 2K Sports Team Up (vannwolfhawk)

Just one thing I wanted to address



This is fine if you are playing single player, but in a User vs User game your suggestion would be problematic. In this scenario, the double teamer's biggest weakness is he's turning his back to the man he's supposed to be guarding. In real life, that guy would be free to get open without his defender knowning. That doesn't hold when playing user vs user because both players can see the entire court. This is one of those cases where "don't play video games, play basketball" philosophy doesn't hold. So there needs to be some leeway for post players when playing against other humans. This is even more problematic if the offense player who's not being guarded is just standing in one place (from your read and shady's, it sounds like this might've been addressed).

That is great part that I noticed is AI not only for CPU but the users AI as well would relocate or cut. So, if you defend or double the post and the player relocates and the ball gets kicked out your in trouble. In the past where you pass the ball and player stays in same spot your theory is unfair. Now that being said another key point is without all the player sliding and some momentum in their player weight on cuts and recoveries is to slow to play both guys in 2k13! that is a good thing and that is kind of what I meant by defenders speed needs to be sped up a bit, but not to much. If you guard or double a post as of now you can not recover to guard against the pass back out IMO. I think offense speed is good, defense just needs to be tweaked SLIGHTLY! In 2k13 this would work because of the new changes. 2k12, no. Does that make sense?

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: NBA 2K13 Hands-On Preview From 2K Sports Team Up (vannwolfhawk)

Great stuff! I might add this man had an entire book full of notes - was very happy as he was able to sit down with Rob Jones, personally, and get through his notes.

Best part of the day for me hands down! Besides of course our time spent together that is. LOL :-) I won't lie I was a bit concerned I wasn't gonna get all my stuff out there! HAHA!

[aloncho11]

Re: NBA 2K13 Hands-On Preview From 2K Sports Team Up (vannwolfhawk)

This could be nit picking, but how did you find the AI adjusting to different defensive situations during the game. Did you noticed any counter tactics from the AI on screen settings (go under, over, switch), individual defensive intensity or different defensive matchups?

[2_headedmonster]

Re: NBA 2K13 Hands-On Preview From 2K Sports Team Up (vannwolfhawk)

That is great part that I noticed is AI not only for CPU but the users AI as well would relocate or cut. So, if you defend or double the post and the player relocates and the ball gets kicked out your in trouble. In the past where you pass the ball and player stays in same spot your theory is unfair. Now that being said another key point is without all the player sliding and some momentum in their player weight on cuts and recoveries is to slow to play both guys in 2k13! that is a good thing and that is kind of what I meant by defenders speed needs to be sped up a bit, but not to much. If you guard or double a post as of now you can not recover to guard against the pass back out IMO. I think offense speed is good, defense just needs to be tweaked SLIGHTLY! In 2k13 this would work because of the new changes. 2k12, no. Does that make sense?

on a hard double they shouldn't be able to recover to close out well. A gifted athlete maybe, but they should typically give up the clear shot with a desperation close out or close short in hopes of a hesitant shooter.

in your experience did the next perimeter defender rotate over as he should in those situations opening up opportunities to swing the ball as rotations chase?

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: NBA 2K13 Hands-On Preview From 2K Sports Team Up (vannwolfhawk)

This could be nit picking, but how did you find the AI adjusting to different defensive situations during the game. Did you noticed any counter tactics from the AI on screen settings (go under, over, switch), individual defensive intensity or different defensive matchups?

This was talked about that it is in the final build. They didn't have plays and there was no down screens off ball in our build we played, but it was discussed and confirmed that it is in. Did I notice it in gameplay from the build I had, no.