Poll: Reach in fouls rate

[S2Hastie3]

Re: Poll: Reach in fouls rate

Unbelievable, this has got to be patched, their honestly shouldn't even be a poll on it are you serious? I reach with players like Rondo, CP3, etc. Foul damn near every time and the only time they do get steals is when I pick it off from cutting the passing lanes get outta here with that for real

[bilygoat2385]

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i agree that the patch needed to be made for the reaches but it needs toned down just a little...when people abuse the inside passes to big guys u cant try to intercept the pass they call a foul everytime which makes it almost impossible to stop if u swipe at the ball on a shot they call you for a foul everytime even if ur player has the skill thats supposed to knock the ball away it needs tuned down just a bit and it would be perfect

[Vic23]

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Unbelievable, this has got to be patched, their honestly shouldn't even be a poll on it are you serious? I reach with players like Rondo, CP3, etc. Foul damn near every time and the only time they do get steals is when I pick it off from cutting the passing lanes get outta here with that for real

how many on ball steals do you see in an average nba game? i'll wait....

[JawKnee]

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I dont see what the problem is just pick your spots i get like 7-8steals a game and hardly every foul. I get more blocking fouls then anything cause im trying to swat everyone though.

[nova91]

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Let's make something clear. I DON'T spam the steal button, I have NO problem getting on-ball steals, I have NO problem getting steals period. Where my problem with the reach in foul rate comes from is my CPU teammates and CPU opponents. I have NO problem with the increased frequency of reach-in fouls, what I do have a problem with is the increased tendency of the CPU to reach for steals that came with the bump in frequency.

[Tilar]

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Rate on first swipe is too high. I can see the penalty increasing with each swipe in a certain time span.

It's ridiculous getting called for a foul every time I try and steal with them not protecting the ball and my steal is 99. Pickpocket skill does hardly anything.

I'm fine with the raise of continually swiping at the ball, but not penalize the first swipe like spammed swipes.

[S2Hastie3]

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how many on ball steals do you see in an average nba game? i'll wait....

Your key words are "how many." They do not keep statistics for 'on-ball' steals so I have no clue, but they are non-existent in NBA 2k13 after this patch. And unless you're a dev then get outta here I could care less about your dumb *** questions.

Oh and the only time you can poke a ball loose without getting a reach-in is when somebod i posting you up, but it goes out of bounds most of the time.

[Optik]

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Your key words are "how many." They do not keep statistics for 'on-ball' steals so I have no clue, but they are non-existent in NBA 2k13 after this patch. And unless you're a dev then get outta here I could care less about your dumb *** questions.

Oh and the only time you can poke a ball loose without getting a reach-in is when somebod i posting you up, but it goes out of bounds most of the time.

1. There are some rough estimates for on-ball steal on 82games.com. The most you can hope for is less than 1 a game.

2. No, they are not non-existent. You just aren't timing them right. Plenty of other people are still able to, so get outta here with your exaggerations.

3. There is nothing dumb about his question, you just can't fathom that the possibility that the problem isn't with the game, it's with YOU.

4. Er...yeah, I would think they would go out of bounds most of the time seeing as most people post up in the low post areas and not at the FT line.

[VoItage]

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Playing offline user vs user, and the second you touch X it's a foul. Completely takes away an entire aspect of the game. Granted, it was too low before... but it's too high now.

[rockchisler]

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I swear people think that they should get a steal every time they reach. On Ball steals are a case of opportunities, wait till the animation where your defender is riding along side (Bodying up) the dribbler to go for a steal, just stop reaching. Have some of you ever played basketball in real life.? The best time to steal is if you have a player like Mike Conley or a Tony Allen like player and you strip a Johan Petro, Ryan Hollins or Aaron Gray. Don't try to pick pocket a Rodney Stuckey, Chris Paul or Ty Lawson..

[VDusen04]

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I swear people think that they should get a steal every time they reach. On Ball steals are a case of opportunities, wait till the animation where your defender is riding along side (Bodying up) the dribbler to go for a steal, just stop reaching. Have some of you ever played basketball in real life.? The best time to steal is if you have a player like Mike Conley or a Tony Allen like player and you strip a Johan Petro, Ryan Hollins or Aaron Gray. Don't try to pick pocket a Rodney Stuckey, Chris Paul or Ty Lawson..

I'm in a tough spot with the post-patch steals change. As I mentioned a few pages ago, I'm guy who enjoys defending on-ball while playing against All-Star level computer opponents. I was never a guy who was able to induce a ton of steals against the computer, but it did seem I at least had the ability to explore such an option when I felt the opportunity presented itself prior to the patch.

Now, I am very much struggling to find an appropriate time to ever even try to use the steal button. Compounding matters, my teammates do not seem to be able to create turnovers on their own (while the computer seems to not enjoy making any sort of mistake). As a result, it has created a game in which I can still compete, but a large aspect is now missing (turnovers). I would very much prefer a slight reduction in touch fouls via steal button, just so folks still have the ability to "try" to press the steal button without being punished. Right now, I feel the punishment from trying the steal button would be similar to being whistled for a foul 90% of the time a defender jumped to block a shot.

My issue isn't entirely my lack of steals. My issue is it doesn't even seem like a feasible option to use the button anymore. On the whole, there are usually less than 10 blocked shots during an NBA basketball game, but that does not mean I wish to be called for a foul any time I jump to contest. Similarly, I don't want to steal the ball every time I tell my player to place his hand toward the exposed, forward facing, waist-high dribble, but I don't want it to always result in an automatic foul either.

[DrX]

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please leave them, i love when cheesers send to the line instead of get an easy steal

[SLOYAROLE]

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See, that's the disconnect right there. I haven't read anywhere in this thread where a guy said a steal should occur on every reach. How foolish would that be... Correct. Damn Foolish. It is also foolish to think think that a foul should be called on every reach.

Also, I'm sick of this "have you guys ever played real-life"??? Who the F--- cares. I've never watched any NBA game where Gary Payton (Yes, the GLOVE!) got a steal on every reach. I've also never seen any footage of GP getting 6 fouls in the 1st quarter because of a couple of perfectly timed ATTEMPTS either.

NBA 2k13 is not about risk v. reward anymore. It's all risk. Unless 2K aligns the pixels specifically your your steal attempt, it's a foul. For all of you "real-life" cats, try watching a real NBA game where every player is in foul trouble before half-time. You, know, refs could call fouls on every sneaky little reach if they wanted to.

Finally, LoL at guys who dumped VC into picpocket/quickhands/etc. because now those attributes mean nothing. Might as well cash them out and put that VC into another attribute. On PS3, we already had an intentional-foul button..."SELECT".

I swear people think that they should get a steal every time they reach. On Ball steals are a case of opportunities, wait till the animation where your defender is riding along side (Bodying up) the dribbler to go for a steal, just stop reaching. Have some of you ever played basketball in real life.? The best time to steal is if you have a player like Mike Conley or a Tony Allen like player and you strip a Johan Petro, Ryan Hollins or Aaron Gray. Don't try to pick pocket a Rodney Stuckey, Chris Paul or Ty Lawson..

[Canquain]

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I'm really hoping 2K drops the reach in foul rate because when playing team up this slows team up down and puts each team in the bonus in the 1st quarter because people just don't understand not to reach. It's also to the point where you don't even want to reach or nor can you reach with people like Chris Paul and Rondo. Furthermore, if we are really going based of the poll then that's just ridiculous because that's only like 2% of the people that play 2K13 when there near 50,000 people online each day who don't have a say about this.

[ffaacc03]

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... Furthermore, if we are really going based of the poll then that's just ridiculous because that's only like 2% of the people that play 2K13 when there near 50,000 people online each day who don't have a say about this.

Might as well leave it as it is now, due to the same reason ... the other 98 might not agree with the poll ... but they might :wink: