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  • Klocker
    MVP
    • Jul 2003
    • 3239

    #211
    Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

    Originally posted by monkey
    No disrespect...but that's an entirely different issue and it's stupid to bring it up here. I'm anti war...and I acknowledge horrible things are happening everywhere in the world...

    But if your can of pepsi has a rat in it, your not going to ask what happened?

    Major bugs in a video game product that people have paid for is an issue in the context of these forums...so let's keep it in that context.

    It's not a $20 issue either. It's that people wait a long time...look forward...to these games.

    And major bugs that we find in a day or two...should not be getting past paid testers. That's the issue.
    I understand what your saying Monkey.

    I just felt that some were taking it out of the context of a product/video game and making it a life/death issue, causing the reality check.

    No disrespect back atcha.

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    • taylor34
      MVP
      • Aug 2002
      • 1119

      #212
      Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

      Originally posted by neovsmatrix
      Is that an excuse? I hope you're not telling me that Visual Concepts' excuse is that EA sports does the same thing. You do see the problem here right? Both companies don't do a damn thing to change their approach, they keep rushing out products and the consumers keep getting screwed and have to make do with half-finished products. Somebody has to take a stand and break the cycle. It's either Visual Concepts or EA Sports. If not any of them, then I hope that some new studio starts doing sports titles the right way, with the right attitude. Give the fans a good, functional game. I can live with minor bugs, I can't live with major game-breaking bugs, like the timeout issue. And this didn't even have to be a major game-breaking bug to begin with. Whoever designs this game needs to be fired, IMHO. This is the second, maybe third time in a row I've seen horrible design decisions being implemented in the NBA 2k franchise.
      All I said was that EA games have similar problems. Sheesh.

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      • taylor34
        MVP
        • Aug 2002
        • 1119

        #213
        Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

        Originally posted by neovsmatrix
        Is that an excuse? I hope you're not telling me that Visual Concepts' excuse is that EA sports does the same thing. You do see the problem here right? Both companies don't do a damn thing to change their approach, they keep rushing out products and the consumers keep getting screwed and have to make do with half-finished products. Somebody has to take a stand and break the cycle. It's either Visual Concepts or EA Sports. If not any of them, then I hope that some new studio starts doing sports titles the right way, with the right attitude. Give the fans a good, functional game. I can live with minor bugs, I can't live with major game-breaking bugs, like the timeout issue. And this didn't even have to be a major game-breaking bug to begin with. Whoever designs this game needs to be fired, IMHO. This is the second, maybe third time in a row I've seen horrible design decisions being implemented in the NBA 2k franchise.
        All I said was that EA games have similar problems. Sheesh.

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        • bigeastbumrush
          My Momma's Son
          • Feb 2003
          • 19245

          #214
          Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

          Originally posted by Graphik
          As of now, I'm thinking about keeping a few TOs for the cpu late in the game and call it for them at the proper times.
          Are you serious man?

          I'm not calling Timeouts for the CPU. Where's the fun in that? Oh, the CPU is down by 1 with 4 seconds left, let ME call a timeout so they can run a Quick Play and drain a game-winner on me?

          Nahhhh man. Not happening.

          I want to know how this game gets out the door with this kind of deficiency. Unreal.

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          • bigeastbumrush
            My Momma's Son
            • Feb 2003
            • 19245

            #215
            Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

            Originally posted by Graphik
            As of now, I'm thinking about keeping a few TOs for the cpu late in the game and call it for them at the proper times.
            Are you serious man?

            I'm not calling Timeouts for the CPU. Where's the fun in that? Oh, the CPU is down by 1 with 4 seconds left, let ME call a timeout so they can run a Quick Play and drain a game-winner on me?

            Nahhhh man. Not happening.

            I want to know how this game gets out the door with this kind of deficiency. Unreal.

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            • Chewingthehardfacts
              MVP
              • Sep 2004
              • 807

              #216
              Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

              Maybe the question is, Someone screwed up.

              What VC should do is recall the games like EA and give refunds and send a new game out.
              XBOX 360 is my God

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              • Chewingthehardfacts
                MVP
                • Sep 2004
                • 807

                #217
                Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                Maybe the question is, Someone screwed up.

                What VC should do is recall the games like EA and give refunds and send a new game out.
                XBOX 360 is my God

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                • Court_vision
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 8290

                  #218
                  Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                  Originally posted by Klocker
                  I understand what your saying Monkey.

                  I just felt that some were taking it out of the context of a product/video game and making it a life/death issue, causing the reality check.

                  No disrespect back atcha.
                  Yeah, people are getting frustrated...but it's understandable.

                  A 'bug' like no time outs simply could NOT have been missed. I'm sorry, but it just could NOT have been missed.

                  That means VC went ahead and released the game early...KNOWING there was a major bug. Translated that means "stuff the consumer...just get the sales"...

                  That's dissapointing.

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                  • Court_vision
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 8290

                    #219
                    Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                    Originally posted by Klocker
                    I understand what your saying Monkey.

                    I just felt that some were taking it out of the context of a product/video game and making it a life/death issue, causing the reality check.

                    No disrespect back atcha.
                    Yeah, people are getting frustrated...but it's understandable.

                    A 'bug' like no time outs simply could NOT have been missed. I'm sorry, but it just could NOT have been missed.

                    That means VC went ahead and released the game early...KNOWING there was a major bug. Translated that means "stuff the consumer...just get the sales"...

                    That's dissapointing.

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                    • poster
                      All Star
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 7506

                      #220
                      Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                      Originally posted by taylor34
                      Maybe you've forgotten about the lefty glitch(MVP), the no progression glitch (MVP), the fatigue glitch(Madden), the slowdown glitch(NCAA). EA's got the same problems.

                      Taylor34
                      I totally agree with you, I guess I should have stated that I am getting pushed towards Live. As some one said, if we can find this in 2 days what the hell do these people do that test these games.

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                      • poster
                        All Star
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 7506

                        #221
                        Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                        Originally posted by taylor34
                        Maybe you've forgotten about the lefty glitch(MVP), the no progression glitch (MVP), the fatigue glitch(Madden), the slowdown glitch(NCAA). EA's got the same problems.

                        Taylor34
                        I totally agree with you, I guess I should have stated that I am getting pushed towards Live. As some one said, if we can find this in 2 days what the hell do these people do that test these games.

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                        • Klocker
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 3239

                          #222
                          Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                          Originally posted by monkey
                          Yeah, people are getting frustrated...but it's understandable.

                          A 'bug' like no time outs simply could NOT have been missed. I'm sorry, but it just could NOT have been missed.

                          That means VC went ahead and released the game early...KNOWING there was a major bug. Translated that means "stuff the consumer...just get the sales"...

                          That's dissapointing.
                          I'm disappointed too and here's hoping someone finds a solution.

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                          • Klocker
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 3239

                            #223
                            Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                            Originally posted by monkey
                            Yeah, people are getting frustrated...but it's understandable.

                            A 'bug' like no time outs simply could NOT have been missed. I'm sorry, but it just could NOT have been missed.

                            That means VC went ahead and released the game early...KNOWING there was a major bug. Translated that means "stuff the consumer...just get the sales"...

                            That's dissapointing.
                            I'm disappointed too and here's hoping someone finds a solution.

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                            • Pared
                              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 39337

                              #224
                              Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                              Ya know I just played a game where it went to OT b/c the CPU called a timeout, and set up a play that scored the game tying basket for the CPU. ONLY b/c they had a timeout. Or else they would have run it down and taken a wild shot.

                              It just adds SO MUCH to the game...

                              -I can work with sluggish controls for IsoMotion
                              -I can work with very little 3 pt. shots being taken and made
                              -I can work with a broken franchise that makes ridiculous trades and gets a little tedious
                              -I can even work with the AI seeming a little dumb

                              But I CAN NOT work with not being to implement Strategy late in the game to pull out the win. With this, the "intelligence" factor in playing this game is gone in Franchise.

                              That's it. Exhibition only for me.

                              Stinks too, b/c I kept giving the game chance after chance after chance... I guess I have to take the game for what it is now...
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                                • Feb 2003
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                                #225
                                Re: CPU Timeout problem, reason inside

                                Ya know I just played a game where it went to OT b/c the CPU called a timeout, and set up a play that scored the game tying basket for the CPU. ONLY b/c they had a timeout. Or else they would have run it down and taken a wild shot.

                                It just adds SO MUCH to the game...

                                -I can work with sluggish controls for IsoMotion
                                -I can work with very little 3 pt. shots being taken and made
                                -I can work with a broken franchise that makes ridiculous trades and gets a little tedious
                                -I can even work with the AI seeming a little dumb

                                But I CAN NOT work with not being to implement Strategy late in the game to pull out the win. With this, the "intelligence" factor in playing this game is gone in Franchise.

                                That's it. Exhibition only for me.

                                Stinks too, b/c I kept giving the game chance after chance after chance... I guess I have to take the game for what it is now...
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