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  • tcrews
    Rookie
    • Oct 2009
    • 360

    #16
    Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

    Just wanted to let you know I had yet another great game with these. This was my 3rd game overall using your sliders and I can honestly say that any other "great" set I have found, usually stopped being great after one game and started being very easy again.

    I was going to post a full stat line but with 52 seconds left in the game, it inexplicably froze. 2k is my only game that ever freezes. It's only done it a handful of times but it's still kind of odd. But I digress...

    I felt as though to better test the sliders, it would be better for me to use a team I never usually play as, and go against a team I haven't played very often. If you like playing against the Celtics or Lakers, or any other team, after about 10 games you pretty much understand their entire offense and it dulls the competitiveness down a bit.

    I used the Grizzlies and went against the Blazers. I went up 10-0 in the first, and for the first time I wasn't thinking "here we go again, I'm going to win by 70". It felt like they were just starting slow, and would catch up. How you managed to do that with sliders I have no idea, but it's the truth. Sure enough, it was 24-24 after the 1st quarter. I had a 6 point lead going into halftime. But they came out on fire in the 3rd, going up by as many as 8. I knocked the lead down a bit and they were up by 4 going into the 4th.

    In the 4th I outscored them 22-14 before the game froze, so I was up by 4 with 50 some odd seconds left.

    The shooting percentages were very, very accurate. Defensively, my guys were not running around like idiots. And for once I didn't have to manually switch on transition defense, or defense after a basket so that my big man wouldn't stay stuck to the point guard and leave the opposing big man running the lane unopposed for an easy dunk. Again, no clue how sliders have helped this, but, they have.

    They actually blocked some shots too, which was nice. For the most part I average about 10 blocks per game because I have the timing figured out perfectly. A lot of people think that blocking is a lot of luck or just pressing the button. But I figured it out awhile ago and it's a lot more complex than people know. And once you do know, it makes shot blocking a lot more fun and rewarding.

    All that aside, the cpu usually doesn't block very many, if any shots against me. For the most part they get 0, even with shot block at 100. Going against the Blazers I had hoped between Camby, Oden, and Pryzbilla, they would do some damage. Sure enough, Camby had 3 blocks, Oden also had 3, and Pryz had 2. Most blocks against me in a long time. Camby also pulled down 16 rebounds, 6 offensive. Which is the best rebounding performance the cpu has ever had against me (individually of course).

    So all things said, your sliders are still amazing, I'm getting competitive, close, realistic games with real shooting percentages, the stars playing like stars (during the 4th before it froze, the Trailb's kept going to Roy with the iso, and he was able to get to the rim at will, very, very lifelike). Camby doing his damage with blocks and boards and making me think twice about driving (also realistic).

    Thank you again, this game is actually fun again. Instead of one blowout after another. I realized I fell back in love with this game, using your sliders, when a couple minutes before halftime I was down by 6. Every basket thereafter felt great and made me do a fist pump. Under normal circumstances I wouldn't be that excited about a game. But I haven't had to play without a lead in literally months.

    The NBA. Where Rspencers sliders happen.
    Last edited by tcrews; 06-22-2010, 05:32 PM.

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    • BlueNGold
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2009
      • 21817

      #17
      Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

      Nice post, tcrews.

      The thing I love about these sliders is that the flow of the game feels realisitc. When I made my comeback against Orlando, it was because my defense was making solid rotations, contesting shots and taking away Orlando's 3's and I was able to turn those stops into baskets. With other sliders or on default, the flow of the game just feels off because baskets are always getting made on both ends and it seems there's never really any runs being made.

      I'm hoping to get some more games in tonight. If I do I'll post more results.
      Originally posted by bradtxmale
      I like 6 inches. Its not too thin and not too thick. You get the support your body needs.



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      • rspencer86
        MIB Crew
        • Sep 2004
        • 8806

        #18
        Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

        Great stuff again tcrews, this is exactly why I decided to share these sliders, hoping they would help others enjoy the game again just as they've helped me.

        A lot of people seemed to enjoy my CH2K8 sliders, but I think these are MUCH better. The results they produce amaze me every time I play. One game I'll be on fire from mid range, the next (like that Bobcats game above) I'll be clanking everything. Even within a game I've experience runs from both teams, just like you see all the time in the NBA.

        My next step is fiddling with some of the coaching profile sliders I haven't messed with yet. But as far as the other sliders go, I've played almost an entire 82-game season and haven't touched any of them. Pretty amazing for a tweakaholic like me.
        Ryan Spencer

        University of Missouri '09
        Twitter: @RyanASpencer

        Royals / Chiefs / Kings / Mizzou / Sporting KC


        PSN: MizzouTigerrr
        XBox: MizzouRhino

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        • mkharsh33
          Hall Of Fame
          • Nov 2006
          • 12779

          #19
          Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

          I just picked this game up last week, but haven't opened it yet. I've read mixed results, but came across this thread and it's peaked my interest. Appreciate the thoughts here...

          Are the latest sliders in first post?

          Are they made for a specific roster set or will any do?

          Sorry for the questions... I'm an AVID player of NBA 2K8 - LOVE that game!! But I'd like to make the upgrade (so to speak). Appreciate any help here! Thanks!!
          STEELERS INDIANS CELTICS

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          • BlueNGold
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2009
            • 21817

            #20
            Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

            Originally posted by mkharsh33
            I just picked this game up last week, but haven't opened it yet. I've read mixed results, but came across this thread and it's peaked my interest. Appreciate the thoughts here...

            Are the latest sliders in first post?

            Are they made for a specific roster set or will any do?

            Sorry for the questions... I'm an AVID player of NBA 2K8 - LOVE that game!! But I'd like to make the upgrade (so to speak). Appreciate any help here! Thanks!!
            I used the regular 2K Insider rosters and got great results so I don't think it plays much of a role.
            Originally posted by bradtxmale
            I like 6 inches. Its not too thin and not too thick. You get the support your body needs.



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            • tcrews
              Rookie
              • Oct 2009
              • 360

              #21
              Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

              You guys are going to think I'm crazy for saying this. but I am so happy right now, because...I just LOST.

              I said to myself, let's take a really good team (Celtics, even though just picking them in a basketball game makes me, as a Lakers fan, feel as though I'm doing something awful, haha). And I took on a slightly above average team, the Heat.

              For the second straight game I opened up a 10-0 lead, and for the second straight game, I felt as though it didn't matter and that the opposing team would be just fine. We battled back and forth all game. There were more lead changes in this game alone than my last 35 combined, not even kidding. I was up 16-8 after the first (only 6 minute quarters while I adjust to them, but now I realize they're effing perfect, so it'll go up to 12 as recommended). At the half it was 33-29, then in the third it was just insane. They outscored me overall 26-15, but there were probably 10-15 lead changes in that quarter alone. Every possession mattered and that's what I've been missing from this game. I have been so detached it's not even funny. I was able to tie the game a few times in the fourth, even taking a 3 point lead at one point, but in the end, they bested me as Ray Allen 2-14 (also realistic, when the dude is on, he's unstoppable, when he's off...he's way off) missed the potential game tying 3 after D-wade missed 1 of 2 free throws to give me one last chance. They won 76-72. Best game I have ever played in ANY 2k bball game. Close, competitive, realistic, and kept me paying attention for every second of the game.

              I can't even tell you guys how many times I'll be googling or talking on the phone while playing 2k because I have a 40 point lead in the 2nd quarter. Not anymore, these sliders are a miracle, and then some. Just to give you guys an idea as to why I'm so happy about losing. I just checked my "VIP" thing. I haven't lost one single game in my last 128 games. Losing has just made me happier than winning the championship in this game ever could. Sadly though, this game had a weird ending. With about 45 seconds left, the crowd went really silent, I thought it was because we were losing and they'd just sorta given up hope. Then I scored to cut the lead to 1, but no one cheered. Then I realized the commentary was nowhere to be found, and finally when the game ended everyone just stood around on the court and it acted as though the game was still going on. I was able to review the stats and all that. But after sitting there for a few minutes with the game really never ending, i had to "quit" out of it. Despite the fact the game was over, so it didn't register any of the stats, scores, or records. I went to quit game and then it froze the game for the second time in as many games. Not sure what's going on with this. Anyone else ever have any freezing problems with their copy? If not, I just have to bring it back to gamestop and get one that hopefully doesn't freeze. Anyway, here are the stats.


              Boston - Miami

              54% FG % 57%
              3/12 3 Pointers 3/8
              11/13 FTs 19/24
              13 Assists 17
              11 Turnovers 7
              22 (6) Rebounds (Off.) 18 (2)
              4 Steals 7
              4 Blocks 1
              42 Points in the paint 40
              4 Fast Break points 10
              4 Second chance points 0


              Top performers - Mia

              D. Wade - 23 points, 2 reb, 3 assists, 6/10 FG 10/12FT
              M. Beasley - 22 points, 3 reb, 9/12 FG 4/4 FT

              Boston -

              R. Rondo - 21pts, 10 assists, 6 rebounds, 3 steals, 8/10 FG
              K. Garnett - 19 points, 4 rebounds, 3 blocks, 9/13 FG

              I will elaborate on some great things that I have noticed with these sliders tomorrow. The purpose of doing that will be to explain to people why these sliders are great, different, and worth trying out.
              Last edited by tcrews; 06-22-2010, 07:49 PM.

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              • jira2004
                Banned
                • May 2006
                • 326

                #22
                Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

                Good read I will try these sliders.......

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                • tcrews
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 360

                  #23
                  Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

                  Despite taking me 8 minutes to type, I believe this is what qualifies to most people as a long read. But if you're looking for a great slider set, or want to know what's so good about this one, then it's worth the length. This slider set single-handedly saved the game for me.




                  Here's my elaboration for why these sliders are great, and what I have noticed. Also, some key differences between default sliders (or other slider sets in general) and this set of sliders.

                  Open looks - I cannot stress this enough. In the NBA, ball movement is crucial. When you watch a game, the team that moves the ball better and doesn't try to iso all game long, or only get it to their top player (Lebron, Kobe) always gives themselves great looks and a chance to win. You're finally able to swing the ball realistically and get the same "wide open" looks as the CPU. With the sliders having quickness at 0 and hustle down to 35 (recalling from memory, correct me if I'm wrong), you're able to be rewarded for your ball movement instead of gaining no benefit as the CPU has superhuman closeout speed, no matter where you swung the ball and how open the guy was. Often times the CPU would know who you were passing to and start running to that open guy the moment the ball leaves your hands. Before it would be humanly possible to slightly be able to tell where that ball was going. With these sliders, I thankfully no longer see this. Which brings me to the other stat you can watch for and how closely tied it is with winning or losing..

                  Rebounding - To some it's just a number, but rebounding can keep you in a game and/or lock your opponent out of that game. It's not just second chance points, it's preventing the opposing team from gaining momentum or getting themselves second chance points. Look at the NBA finals. Every team that won the rebounding war, won the game, in all 7 games. With these sliders, it seems as though the guys with the higher rebounding stats are always the ones gobbling up the boards. I just had Camby go for 16 rebounds, 6 of which were offensive, against me. Bar none it was the best individual effort the cpu had against me on the boards, ever. I have been playing 2k since Sega Dreamcast and this is the best rebounding game the cpu has ever had against me. I thank the sliders for that. After Camby had that game against me, I wondered how the best rebounder in the league would fare. Dwight Howard snagged 22 rebounds, 10 offensive against me. After back to back performances of the best individual rebounding I've seen the CPU have against me, now, i KNOW it's the sliders.

                  Superstars - Going against the Heat last night, using the Celtics. When the game was close, they went to D-Wade. And kept going and kept going. Let's back up a bit to a game I had the night before that. With the game on the line when I went up against the Blazers. In crunch time, they went to Brandon Roy. Instead of passing, he always went right to the rim. When D-Wade took over the game last night (which I ended up losing because of his stellar drive and kick offense with a few minutes remaining) he would always pass the ball during a double team, and shoot when he knew he had beat the defense. If you watch him play, he's a very, very strong passer and has no problem diverting to teammates in a clutch situation. It was great to see him take over the game not only by scoring, but by crisp passing. The superstars are playing like superstars. I couldn't be happier, win or lose.

                  Turnovers - With hands at 0 and whatever other sliders factor in here. Turnovers are becoming a huge part of the game once again. If you watch any NBA game, there are a ton of turnovers every game. And what the game had wrong was that, a lot of them are unforced, or come not from blocks and steals, but from just tipping the ball, or people dropping the ball, not catching it, only getting fingertips on it before it sails out of bounds, etc. With these sliders, whenever I try to force a pass, or throw too far away from me, the ball will be either picked, or off target. And every single time this has happened, as I threw the ball, I know I'd be lucky to have it not result in a turnover. It feels like Madden in that regard, you know when you've thrown a bad pass and just sorta hope the CPU doesn't snag it. You can just tell. In the games I've had, my turnovers have gone way up because you have to much more careful with your dribble moves and your passes. To me, no matter the difficulty, anything that makes the game more realistic is for the best.

                  Realism - I'll be brief on this one. I'm seeing realistic FG% and no matter what I do, I cannot just take a game over like I've always been able to. If you get open looks with these sliders, your shots have a great chance to fall, but it's not automatic. Give Kobe some room with this slider set, and you're golden. Give Monta Ellis the same room, he's got a good chance, but it's nowhere near guaranteed. Makes you work harder for open looks and not chuck up contested jumpers, speaking of which...

                  Contested Jumpers - Get a hand in their face with these sliders and their shot % drops instantly. It's finally rewarding to play stout defense. No more will you have to slam into a guy or block him to make him miss. Body up, hands up, and great d is rewarded, finally.

                  Difficulty/Competitiveness - Coming from someone that was so desperate to lose, and finding myself unable to do so even on Hall of Fame. I had always shied away from trying anyone's sliders with less than superstar as the difficulty, then I wavered to all star. Finally, because I couldn't find a good/realistic/challenging set. I tried a set of Pro sliders, the pro set gave me a good game or two, but went back to being easy as soon as i started association. I can proudly say after 5 games with these, I am 3-2. Neither team ever feels as though they're "out of it". You can come back from any deficit, as can the computer. I started a couple of games on a 10-0 run. For most of us, we know how that game would end up, a blowout in our favor. In both games this happened in, the computer came back. One time I won, the other time I lost. It never feels as though it's cheap, and you can tell just by how both teams are moving, playing, and active, that it's always going to be a real good game.

                  Free Throws - With Real FT% on, and FT difficulty at 100. They're no longer gimmes. Let's face it, everyone misses free throws in real life. But with Real FT% off, and FT difficulty at 50. How could you miss? You might miss the first one if you're not used to someones shooting animation. But what about in association mode when you're shooting hundreds of free throws with the same guy? I've yet to miss one free throw with Kobe since I bought this game, which at this point must be in the 3 or 400's. But with this on, everyone is capable of missing, Ray Allen, Calderon, all the best FT shooters can miss. Makes you have to focus hard and concentrate on making them. At the end of a close game, since they're harder to make. It makes them feel as though you're really in a pressure/crunch time situation and you're nervous to miss. That my friends captivates realism, and is a very, very, wonderful thing to have in this game.

                  Most importantly - You finally have to pay attention to every possession. I had written on another thread that I felt as though I could take half the game off and not pay for it by losing. Many others responded and said they felt the same way and that game was just extremely easy no matter what. So I know I'm not alone. With these sliders you absolutely have to pay strict attention to the game and nothing else. Because if you don't, you will lose. Simple as that.

                  Now, sliders are very subjective, what might be great for me is not necessarily going to be great for everyone. But if you're someone that's looking for the rare combination of a challenging game that finishes with realistic shooting percentages, realistic points in the paint, realistic free throw numbers, better defense, and an overall realism to the game that I've yet to find anywhere else, then these should absolutely be for you.

                  I have written all this for others who may be frustrated by this game, trust me, i sold it and traded it and bought or traded for it 5 different times. My frustration was at an all time high because I just wanted a realistic challenge, and this is by far my favorite sport. So I'm writing this because I'm impartial. I do not know the guy that made these sliders on any level outside of writing on his thread. And because it's the least I can do for the guy that saved the season for me, so to speak. I feel indebted to him for this and just want other people to see how passionate I am about these sliders. Hopefully a few other people try them that are just as frustrated with the game, and it's equally as good for them as it is for me.

                  I hope this helps some people and encourages them to try these. If you do, please respond. I'd love to hear from other people who also had a great time with these, or even had the gave saved for them.

                  Biggest thanks of all is to RSpencer. The creator of this great slider set.
                  Last edited by tcrews; 06-23-2010, 11:54 AM.

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                  • micr0ray
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 107

                    #24
                    Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

                    Hi, thanks for the great slider, just want to make sure if we have to manually put in the coaching profile? is the coaching profile save within the roster? if yes can you upload it to 2k share just to save us some time?

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                    • rspencer86
                      MIB Crew
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 8806

                      #25
                      Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

                      I would just do it manually. It doesn't take very long to do. I set all of these up in my Association file so I don't think there is a way to post them up on 2K Share.
                      Ryan Spencer

                      University of Missouri '09
                      Twitter: @RyanASpencer

                      Royals / Chiefs / Kings / Mizzou / Sporting KC


                      PSN: MizzouTigerrr
                      XBox: MizzouRhino

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                      • rspencer86
                        MIB Crew
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 8806

                        #26
                        Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

                        Wow crews, glad to see you are seeing what I've been seeing. Thanks for the props!

                        I'm playing Cavs @ Bulls right now, I might post a game video pointing out some of the things that tcrews was talking about above.
                        Ryan Spencer

                        University of Missouri '09
                        Twitter: @RyanASpencer

                        Royals / Chiefs / Kings / Mizzou / Sporting KC


                        PSN: MizzouTigerrr
                        XBox: MizzouRhino

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                        • richmo
                          Almighty 2k Paper Champ
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 709

                          #27
                          Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

                          Yo, just tried your sliders out. Have to say I'm very impressed with these. Just played the Lakers as the Hornets on the road and got DEMOLISHED! I think that's the first time in 2010 I got blown out on Pro.

                          I used Nogster's rosters. This was just an exhibition but I actually feel like starting a franchise with these. Basically, Kobe tore us apart in the second half, scoring 25 in the half. The Hornets got pummeled on the glass with a 21 rebound deficit in favor of the Lakers. Almost 3 Lakers had double-digit rebounding. Jordan Farmar also had the quietest 19 I've ever seen, and Ron Artest came to play. Their size was too much in the end and it showed:












                          Gonna play another with these and tell you how it goes

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                          • Benniator
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 160

                            #28
                            Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

                            Echoing what others have said, these sliders might have saved the game for me. I have tried everyone's sliders and every single set, including my own, let me down. Even if I could get my team shooting percentage down around 45%, the CPU would always shoot 35% and I'd end up winning by 40 every game. It got to the point where I would trade away anyone with an OVR over 75 so that my games could be somewhat competitive. I would love to go 42-42 and sneak into the playoffs. Going 79-3 or 80-2 is boring as hell.

                            This was my first Association game with the Pacers (no Granger, traded for Deron Williams).

                            Rebuilt Pacers (79 OVR, HUM) at Hawks (82 OVR, CPU)

                            Final score: 131-129 Pacers

                            .....1st 2nd 3rd 4th
                            ----------------------------
                            ATL 32 .30..31.36
                            IND 33. 20 .34 44
                            ----------------------------

                            IND/ATL Stats

                            FG: 49/91 | 52/100
                            FG%: 53/52
                            3 PT: 12/29 | 4/13
                            3 PT%: 41/30
                            FT: 21/25 | 21/27
                            FT%: 84/77
                            AST: 26/28
                            TO: 16/9
                            FOULS: 17/20
                            TTL REB: 42/46
                            OFF REB: 5/8
                            STL: 5/11
                            BLK: 4/1
                            PIP: 66/64
                            BENCH: 22/21
                            2ND CHANCE: 2/12
                            FAST BREAK: 0/8

                            I have no idea what happened. Joe Johnson was unstoppable. He scored 56 points from all over the floor. He scored almost 40 in the 2nd half alone. Neither team decided to play defense and shots were open under the basket all game for both teams (first time that's happened for me with these sliders). Only a late surge in the last 3 minutes gave me the victory. Even though defense was nonexistant, this was a hard-fought game throughout. Hopefully the next game will be a bit more inline stats-wise with what I saw in quick games.

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                            • richmo
                              Almighty 2k Paper Champ
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 709

                              #29
                              Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

                              Here's my second exhibition against the Hawks:








                              Definitely liking these, but it seems I'm not getting all the PiP stats everyone else is, might be the defense so I'll probably have to play with a better defensive team.
                              Last edited by richmo; 06-24-2010, 10:58 AM.

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                              • tcrews
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 360

                                #30
                                Re: rspencer86's 2K10 Sliders and Settings

                                RSpencer - It's the least I could do, really. I'm always happy to give anyone their props. I'm the type where if a pizza guy makes a great pizza and delivers it on time, or is even helpful on the phone. I'll talk to his manager to let him know that they have a kick *** pizza guy on their workforce. It's just something I believe in, recognizing effort, and rewarding it. I really look forward to seeing your video, i absolutely hope you choose to make it. And I'm also glad we're seeing the same things and I'm not the only one noticing all the stark differences.


                                RSM007- I'm glad to see you got demolished, it's a lot more fun having to compete. And let's face it, the Lakers are the best team in the world, Kobe is the best player in the world, and the Hornets are going through a bit of a tough time as they try to figure out if they're going to add pieces, or they're going to have a firesale due to their owner running short on cash. So I would imagine if you played the Lakers 10 times, you'd win a few, but lose most. It's realistic. I actually used the Hornets last night and took on the 76ers. I won by 4. But they hung around all game. Every time I tried to get some breathing room, I'd go up by 6 or 8, they'd immediately tie it. And I knew it was because of me acting desperate to close the game out and forcing shots, so i deserved to lose. Fortunately though, I hung on and won 74-70. CP3 was a blast to use because for whatever reason, with these sliders, you get way more space to operate and can get your guys better looks. He finished with 27 points, 11 assists, 4 steals, and 0 turnovers. Great, great game.

                                Benniator - I was laughing as I was reading your first few sentences. I'm in the same boat as you, always trying to trade away 'star' players to keep my team very average in hopes the games would be more competitive and it was actually difficult to make the playoffs. I have had seasons much like yourself where I went 81-1 or 79-3. It's just flat out boring.

                                As far as your stats go, I personally haven't tried these in association yet. And I'm really hoping for all of our sakes that your game was just a fluke. I'm glad, despite the lack of defense and Joe Johnson going nuts, that it was at least competitive and you had to pay attention all game. Games like that happen in the NBA every now and then, so hopefully that's all it was. Just one of those crazy random Kobe 81 games. Keep us posted. Coming from someone like you, and being able to relate so much. I'm really hoping these work out for you!

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