OS Concerns: All-Star 2016 Pack Glitch

[CHIEF KEETH]

Re: OS Concerns: All-Star 2016 Pack Glitch

One of the ideas I thought of as a possible easy fix is to boost HoF/RS/TBT card stats a bit, then change the season rewards to give RS to first place, HoF second place, AS to semis, and Regular star to quarter+. Making AS not quite as appealing.

You still have the problem of hundreds if not thousands of people now have multiple all star pros, which are muc, much better than the normal star pros people put in hundreds of hours for making their decks completely worthless against anyone with multiple cards they did nothing to get. That solution solves nothing besides making it easier for the people who did the glitch to get even better decks than players who didn't.

[iluvnug]

Re: OS Concerns: All-Star 2016 Pack Glitch

I like this. Elegant. Only problem is a lot of us have several AS cards through seasons already. Now ours suck?

Myself included, I had 4 allstar pros prior to the glitch.

[CHIEF KEETH]

Re: OS Concerns: All-Star 2016 Pack Glitch

Myself included, I had 4 allstar pros prior to the glitch.

Cool and you deserved those I bet because you put in time or money to win your seasons and receive those cards.

Now I'm guessing you have 10+ all star pros and more than half of them you did absolutely nothing for and are trying to justify it as "not a big deal" so you can keep them.

If it's not a big deal, why do you want to keep them so bad?

[iluvnug]

Re: OS Concerns: All-Star 2016 Pack Glitch

Cool and you deserved those I bet because you put in time or money to win your seasons and receive those cards.

Now I'm guessing you have 10+ all star pros and more than half of them you did absolutely nothing for and are trying to justify it as "not a big deal" so you can keep them.

If it's not a big deal, why do you want to keep them so bad?

Nope I already had 15 star pros before the glitch. I've been playing seasons full of people with 13 to 15 star pros for a couple weeks.

[matt43]

Re: OS Concerns: All-Star 2016 Pack Glitch

My guess is all All Star cards lose value.. meaning they become a subset with a lower value than typical star cards... think KG RC Card level.

[bearrock]

Re: OS Concerns: All-Star 2016 Pack Glitch

I think we can all agree that targeted rollback would be the fairest result. We don't have any idea whether that is feasible (constraints could be technical or something else such as manpower required to implement targeted rollback). While some have expressed concerns about used up star contract and wild cards, if targeted rollback is possible, then reissuing used up star contract and wild cards should be possible too (cards used up for leveling and boosting is of small consequence and really shouldn't bother anyone. If necessary, you could issue 10 level up card for each pro or something). Even if reissuing cards are not possible, CD could simply approximate and hand out star contracts or wild cards for each AS taken away. This may result in certain windfall of star contracts or wild cards for glitch users, but that would have far less game altering effect on the rest of the community.

Assuming targeted rollback is not possible, the best solution would be a better implementation of match making. First fix is season match making looking at the type of cards, not their current stat. Pro'd star card should be given a fixed value regardless of whether they are fully leveled or boosted. This fixes the entering the season with base pro then leveling up during the season strategy. Also saves the users from draining the boost in between each season. Cards should not be distinguished based on enhancements as that is a legitimate improvement earned by the user. Each tier star card should be assigned a different value, so RC>AS/HOF>Reg. I believe event cards should be assigned a Reg card value as it rewards event card earners.

Second fix should be AS card lineups should not be matched up with non-AS lineups in RC and QG.

Third, anyone who did not open a pack during the glitch and in star tier should be given free reward star pros to put them on a same footing as glitch users for the upcoming RTTC. Then it becomes an issue of GN and/or time and no longer about deck strength.

Fourth, anyone who was not a star tier prior to the glitch should have all of their star level cards removed. No targeting needed here. Massive removal is justified.

One round of glitched season and AH mayhem in non-rollback scenario can stand. Considering the massive game breaking nature of the glitch, if the worst fallout is one ruined season and skewed AH for a few days, the end result isn't so bad.

[datvigi]

Re: OS Concerns: All-Star 2016 Pack Glitch

What about the ones that got pro'd with credit purchased star contracts? widlcards?
--> Remove them, why would you use star contracts or wildcards on illegitimate cards ?

Since it's been 24hours what about all the ones currently in seasons
--> Remove them, this will create holes in the user's season deck and he's going to lose plenty of games

What if I pro'd one with an AS card I already had legitimately?
--> Same as first answer, if you take the risk you accept the consequences

You will say that I am saying all this because I did not benefit the glitch.
Well maybe but what I know is that what I'm saying is in my opinion the less hardcore solution because of course the easiest would be to ban everyone who bought the packs (or at least a high number of packs). If I had "bought" the free packs and at the end CD just removed the AS players, I would say that's a correct answer.

Every dime of their budget, will now be devoted to dealing with claims from Google/Apple.

[CHIEF KEETH]

Re: OS Concerns: All-Star 2016 Pack Glitch

Literally the only thing that makes sense is a rollback.

Anything else is sweeping the problem under a rug or putting a bandaid on an amputated limb.

Outside of a rollback you've ruined this game for months until the next tier comes out.

[iluvnug]

Re: OS Concerns: All-Star 2016 Pack Glitch

Literally the only thing that makes sense is a rollback.

Anything else is sweeping the problem under a rug or putting a bandaid on an amputated limb.

Outside of a rollback you've ruined this game for months until the next tier comes out.

Rollbacks are typically a last resort for game devs. I'm not opposed to a rollback but it leads to a slew of possible issues. The purpose of this thread is brainstorming possible fixes. If you have constructive ideas, post them.

[CHIEF KEETH]

Re: OS Concerns: All-Star 2016 Pack Glitch

Rollbacks are typically a last resort for game devs. I'm not opposed to a rollback but it leads to a slew of possible issues. The purpose of this thread is brainstorming possible fixes. If you have constructive ideas, post them.

Ok, how about a rollback?

Keep campaigning to keep your free all-star star pros though .

There's literally no fix that solves anything outside of rollback.

[BigTicket96]

Re: OS Concerns: All-Star 2016 Pack Glitch

Rollback or die!

I don't care if they lower AS stats, if they give me a free reset, if they do whatever it's not a reset.
I won't tolerate that in 1 hour i lost 5 months of my life of great grinding.
I have more than 20.000 qgs played so i know what i'm talking about.

My LU can beat those AS, but it's simply not fair that kids who were in SR YESTERDAY are now on my same level.
They did NOTHING to deserve it.
The glitch ruined the game for everyone: the ones who used the glitch have just no interest in improving anymore, the ones who didn't are screwed, the big spenders... better not to think bout that, thankfully i never spent a dime on this game, but i bet it doesn't feel good seeing half of the server with free countless cards you paid big money for maybe just the day before.
Everything is sooo messed up, for everyone, the only way to save the game is the reset, i don't care if i'll lose 4 stars (1 reset and 3 cheap AH) and 5 legs drafted during this period, i just want 2k16 to be entertaining and fair once again, because this way it sucks and it really drains any will to grind for useless cards.

If nothing will be done i'm out.
I'm here since 2k14 and i played something like 150 000 qgs overall, i saw a lot of dark moves by greedy CD but this one would simply be too much to bear.
I hope I won't be the only one in that case.

[iluvnug]

Re: OS Concerns: All-Star 2016 Pack Glitch

Ok, how about a rollback?

Keep campaigning to keep your free all-star star pros though .

Not campaigning. But coming up with ideas if CD won't do a rollback. They have had glitches that distributed free cards from events or packs before and ended up doing nothing. The longer CD does nothing about this glitch, the less likely a rollback will happen.
All you have done here is criticize. If you have nothing constructive to say, you can go post opinion pieces and inflammatory comments in the main thread. This thread is for constructive brainstorming.

[Lenny2015]

Re: OS Concerns: All-Star 2016 Pack Glitch

Just an hour of free record setter/ hof pack would be great! Consistent with the giving spirit

[CHIEF KEETH]

Re: OS Concerns: All-Star 2016 Pack Glitch

Not campaigning. But coming up with ideas if CD won't do a rollback. They have had glitches that distributed free cards from events or packs before and ended up doing nothing. The longer CD does nothing about this glitch, the less likely a rollback will happen.
All you have done here is criticize. If you have nothing constructive to say, you can go post opinion pieces and inflammatory comments in the main thread. This thread is for constructive brainstorming.

He literally made this thread so it stays out of the main thread, thanks for your concern though Judge Nug.

A rollback causes a day or two worth of problems for the game.

Anything else has weeks, months, literally the lifetime of this game worth of ramifications.

Outside of a rollback this game changes into a completely different game than the one people spent hundreds/thousands of hours and dollars into, even if they release a new subset or higher tier.

[playa145]

Re: OS Concerns: All-Star 2016 Pack Glitch

Almost everyone here is crying because they didn't get the cards themselves otherwise there would be no issue. On top of that why should people have to eat up the wild cards or star contracts they used when it was something everyone could have done, some just missed out and they are angry about that