EA's player ratings?

[Playmakers]

Re: EA's player ratings?

I Finally completed all the rosters. I think that there has been some very good progress made by tweaking the Offensive Awareness, Defensive Awareness, Speed and Quickness ratings. The 3-PT ratings are optional as I mentioned for the Human player but I would definetly suggest editing the CPU players because it will stop them from launching 3's all game. Most of the STAR players and good 3-pt shooters will still have basically their same rating with the acception of a few.

I was going to Re-Rate all the PG's, SG's and SF's Shot Blocking down to 0 with the acception of guy's like Kirelenko, Artest and Josh Smith because they do get a few blocks during a game but that's something I'm going to do for my own preference later.

I'm going to knockout some sliders that adjust to the Global Edits that were done for gameplay. The Sliders will be placed in the 360 slider thread. I know we shouldn't have to go through all this trouble just to enhance gameplay but now that I'm done the time an effort was worth it. I just think that EA should've balanced the ratings out better. Basically, EA released this game with a high influence towards the offensive side. The only way to get a solid balance was to boost up defensive awareness and lower offensive awareness.

[Court_vision]

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Really looking forward to trying thse PM

I tried it myself for a game or two and the edits did make a big difference...

Was way too lazy to do them all though...once you post them though, I will.

Thanks again.

[Playmakers]

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Really looking forward to trying thse PM

I tried it myself for a game or two and the edits did make a big difference...

Was way too lazy to do them all though...once you post them though, I will.

Thanks again.

I'm all done with every team. Posted it up in the slider Forum. I'm just tweaking Sliders now to adjust to the Global Ratings.

There's a huge difference in the amount of 3's taken and Fastbreak's being run by the CPU. In fact I think some of the teams Fast Break Sliders under Team Strategy can be adjusted to go up 1-2 clicks if needed now.

I might have to even include the 3-PT Quick Play in some teams Playbooks now aswell. I toned alot of stuff down with the ratings.

[poster]

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Playmakers: When I play as the Pistons I am not sure if I like the plays you gave them. It might just be me so bear with me, but is there a play for Rip to run around screens and get shots.How about a play to get Sheed some 3's. Do the last 3 plays have to be the original default plays, or can we change them? Sorry to post this here. Didn't know if you were still looking at the playbook thread. Thanks for all of your help!

[Playmakers]

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Playmakers: When I play as the Pistons I am not sure if I like the plays you gave them. It might just be me so bear with me, but is there a play for Rip to run around screens and get shots.How about a play to get Sheed some 3's. Do the last 3 plays have to be the original default plays, or can we change them? Sorry to post this here. Didn't know if you were still looking at the playbook thread. Thanks for all of your help!

You can assign all 6 slots to be actual plays from a set. I just basically flip the bottom 3 plays to the top because the CPU was only utilizing plays from the QUICK PLAY SLOTS most of the game. It was away to trick them into calling set plays.

As for the Human player you can setup a play using all 6 slots if you like. I just made the QUICK PLAYS in each teams Playbook for the CPU.

If you don't want to Utilize ISO, POST UP or 3-PT basic plays you don't have to have them in the playbook.

As for Detroit the 1-4 High-4 Play is designed for Sheed to get a look at the 3-pt shot first. His initial setup will take him out high on the arc and Billups passes to him first. Check out the Diagram you'll see the PF flash up high in 3-pt territory.

You could use also use Motion-9 or Double High-8 as outside plays for Wallace.

For Rip Hamilton Stagger-4, Stagger-1 and Sideline Traingle-1 are good plays for the SG coming off screens.

Just kinda follow the play diagrams and it shows you all the ball movement and screens.

[Playmakers]

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Here's the Roster of all the Players that I did Global Ratings on for the game. There are some minor edits that I suggested on certain players towards the end of the thread on the last page.

http://forums.operationsports.com/vB...d.php?t=160696


Here's the Sliders for the Global Ratings I did for the game. Only minor changes were made so please proof read all the information that could help you out to make adjustments.

http://forums.operationsports.com/vB...155007&page=11

[Realdeal]

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You da man Playmakers. I used the sliders you had initially created and just edited 3 teams played about 4 games with Lakers vs Washington, Houston and Orlando nice feel and everything. The added speed and quickness made up for the lower gamespeed of 47 that I've been using. Some teams ran like Washington probably becuase of Gilbert Arenas. But then Orlando hardly ever tried to run. T-Mac was god for Houston as he kept firing shots at me. I did notice much improvement in my players on defense helping out and when I gave up a fast break sometimes it was because I switched off to the wrong man 50% of the time. But that's not your fault more of EA's camera's. I'm going to finish up my first season and definetly work on the other teams. The one thing I did do was increase my three point range because with the reduction on some players my shot was falling until I increased the shooting. I did see where the CPU passed up shots that they would always take before the edits.

Great findings by you Playmakers and as always your work is much appreciated by me and many others. I'm going to post this information elsewhere if you don't mind. Of course all the credit will go to you I just want to spread the word for those who are suspect about the game.

[Playmakers]

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You da man Playmakers. I used the sliders you had initially created and just edited 3 teams played about 4 games with Lakers vs Washington, Houston and Orlando nice feel and everything. The added speed and quickness made up for the lower gamespeed of 47 that I've been using. Some teams ran like Washington probably becuase of Gilbert Arenas. But then Orlando hardly ever tried to run. T-Mac was god for Houston as he kept firing shots at me. I did notice much improvement in my players on defense helping out and when I gave up a fast break sometimes it was because I switched off to the wrong man 50% of the time. But that's not your fault more of EA's camera's. I'm going to finish up my first season and definetly work on the other teams. The one thing I did do was increase my three point range because with the reduction on some players my shot was falling until I increased the shooting. I did see where the CPU passed up shots that they would always take before the edits.

Great findings by you Playmakers and as always your work is much appreciated by me and many others. I'm going to post this information elsewhere if you don't mind. Of course all the credit will go to you I just want to spread the word for those who are suspect about the game.

Yeah it's much better after the edits to the players. It took some time to get all 30 teams but it pays off in the end. I still believe the game can be even better if I spent more time with the ratings but it's tough doing all these guy's manually.

IMO EA wanted this game to be more offensive minded for some reason and that's why you see mostly every player with a higher offensive awareness than defensive awareness. Then there's the speed issue when your players are already low on defensive awareness and you combine that with lack of speed the CPU guy's all ran by you on fastbreaks like they were LeBron James filling the lanes and taking outlet passes without anyone insight if your PG got caught sleeping.

I'm willing to bet that even if you go down further on offensive awareness making it 0-50 with 50 being the highest rating you could probably see some outstanding stuff. The game doesn't boost up as much defensively as it does offensively so I'm guessing even if players defensive awareness started at 80-100 it would only make them break even defensively towards the offensive players being dropped down significantly to 0-50.

I was going to go that route and then use the shooting sliders and Free-Style control to makeup for some of the difference. For instance guy's like Kobe, LeBron and Iverson could've been dropped to 50 Offensive awareness but aslong as their teammates were rated lower like around 25-30 or 35 they would still be the higher awareness players in the game and then the free-style effect on the game sliders could have stayed about 50 and still allowed those guy's to stand out when they made moves.

So, I had several ideas but it's a lot of work so I just stopped at my current ratings. Maybe in the spring I'll get the urge to re-do edits again but for now this should be good enough.



Click on the Link for Global Player ratings for 360 Live:
http://forums.operationsports.com/vB...d.php?t=160696

Click on the Link for Live 360 Global rating Sliders
http://forums.operationsports.com/vB...155007&page=11

[poster]

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You can assign all 6 slots to be actual plays from a set. I just basically flip the bottom 3 plays to the top because the CPU was only utilizing plays from the QUICK PLAY SLOTS most of the game. It was away to trick them into calling set plays.

As for the Human player you can setup a play using all 6 slots if you like. I just made the QUICK PLAYS in each teams Playbook for the CPU.

If you don't want to Utilize ISO, POST UP or 3-PT basic plays you don't have to have them in the playbook.

As for Detroit the 1-4 High-4 Play is designed for Sheed to get a look at the 3-pt shot first. His initial setup will take him out high on the arc and Billups passes to him first. Check out the Diagram you'll see the PF flash up high in 3-pt territory.

You could use also use Motion-9 or Double High-8 as outside plays for Wallace.

For Rip Hamilton Stagger-4, Stagger-1 and Sideline Traingle-1 are good plays for the SG coming off screens.

Just kinda follow the play diagrams and it shows you all the ball movement and screens.

Thanks much. Maybe I wasnt reading the 1-4 High diagram right for Sheed. Thanks for all of your hard work.

[Playmakers]

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Ok fellas here's a brief game summary using the Sliders and Adjusted Ratings between Spurs vs Lakers. I was the Spurs and it wasn't pretty might have beefed up the Lakers defense too much....:wink:

Tim Duncan got injured.....

All Star Level/8-Minute Qtr's/Press Camera View 9/7 Gamespeed-44

Final Score
LA Lakers-87 vs Spurs-58 (me)

Box Score
Lakers-17.....25....23....22
Spurs-13.....16....13....17

Lakers
Kobe-(10/24-FG, 29-Pt's, 5-Reb, 2/6-3PT, 7/8-FT, 25 Minutes)
Odom-(5/13-FG, 19-Pt's, 5-Reb, 2/6-3Pt, 7/9-FT, 24 Minutes)
Mihm-(3/5-FG, 6-Pt's, 12-Reb, 19 Minutes)
Vujacic-(3/6-FG, 9-Pt's, 6-Asst, 20 Minutes)

Spurs
Ginoboli-(5/9-FG, 16-Pt's, 6/7-FT, 19 Minutes)
Parker-(5/17-FG, 13-Pt's, 3/5-FT, 6-Asst, 28 Minutes)
Bowen-(5/6-FG, 11-Pt's, 26 Minutes)

Game Stats

FG%
Lakers-46% (31/68)
Spurs-35% (24/69)

3pt FG%
Lakers-35% (7/20)
Spurs-17% (1/6)

FT%
Lakers-75% (18/24)
Spurs-71% (10/14)

Rebounds
Lakers-40 (9-Off)
Spurs-30 (7-Off)

Assist
Lakers-15
Spurs-15

Blocks
Lakers-8
Spurs-3

Steals-I didn't go for any just tried to stay in front of the PG
Lakers-4
Spurs-1

Turnovers-Might have to up the Intereption Slider
Lakers-4
Spurs-9

Fouls
Lakers-14
Spurs-14

Fast Break Points-I never play and different from a teams real life style
Lakers-12
Spurs-8

[Playmakers]

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Played my last test game for the night and it was awesome. I was New York and it went right down to the buzzer. With about :11 seconds left Miami was down 74-73 they tried to get the ball into Wade's hands but covered him up with two defenders so they through the inbounds pass from half court to Jayson Williams who dribble to the baseline and took a contested jumper he missed but guess who went up strong and for the offensive board and powered it back in with a monster dunk......Shaq Daddy and the crowd errupted.....

So, I advanced the ball took a quick timeout set up a play for Marbury to come off a high screen since the ball was advanced to halfcourt out of the timeout. The clock had :05 seconds left just enough time get it take one dribble by my screener Channing Frye, Marbs raised up over Williams and hit all net with no time left. So, I'm waiting for the ref to give the signal if the shot counted......

He comes out puts his arms kinda down the shot counts I win and the CROWD starts a loud quick booing noise. Game over and it was great. Shaq kept killling my big men as Eddie Curry picked up 5 fouls and Jerom James had 4 in the game. I let my big men play on their own only coming down to double when he was ready to make his offensive move. He abused everyone I threw at him.

All Star Level/8-Minute Qtr's/Press Camera View 9/7 Gamespeed-44

Final Score
New York-76 (Me) vs Miami-75

Box Score
Knicks-16.....21...13....26
Heat--17.....16....22....20

Knicks
Francis-(5/10-FG, 15-Pt's, 4-Reb, 5/5-FT, 17 Minutes)
Crawford-(3/5-FG, 10-Pt's, 1/3-3Pt, 3/4-FT, 21 Minutes)
Marbury-(3/9-FG, 9-Pt's, 3/4-FT, 9-Asst, 22 Minutes)
Frye-(10-Reb, 20 Minutes)

Heat
Shaq-(9/13-FG, 21-Pt's, 3/5-FT, 14-Reb, 28 Minutes)
Wade-(8/14-FG, 20-Pt's, 4/6-FT, 29 Minutes)
Posey-(2/12-FG, 10-Pt's, 6/8-FT, 5-Reb, 27 Minutes)
Haslem-(4/9-FG, 9-Pt's, 1/1-FT, 12-Reb, 28-Minutes)

Game Stats

FG%
Knicks-36% (25/70)
Heat-40% (26/65)

3pt FG%
Knicks-33% (3/9)
Heat-11% (1/9)

FT%
Knicks-85% (23/27)......I let CPU shoot for me
Heat-69% (22/32)

Rebounds
Knicks-43 (14-Off)
Heat-38 (10-Off)

Assist
Knicks-16
Heat-14

Blocks
Knicks-5
Heat-4

Steals-Again I didn't go for any on my own
Knicks-6
Heat-3

Turnovers-I will definetly look to see how to increase this just a bit
Knicks-7
Heat-8

Fouls
Knicks-19
Heat-17

Fast Break Points
Knicks-14
Heat-12

D.Wade was the best Heat player in transistion and rightfully so. He is very quick and fast got about 3 dunks off of the break vs me. But when Payton came in they slowed it down much more than with Williams running PG. Overall 12 points isn't very high so it's definetly possible to control the CPU fast breaks much better.

[rawdawg71]

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Great! work Playmakers, I was wondering if these are the Default rosters that you've worked on and not EA latest online download rosters that U can get when playing online. The reason I've asked that is because U don't have Smush Parker on the Lakers at all, and he's on the latest Lakers online roster from EA. It's not a biggie, I just want to know what U think his player ratings should be like! Once again it been said before but U are Da Man!! Thanks for Ur hard work!!

[EWRMETS]

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You can actually use 12 minute quarters with these sliers..just have to mess with fatigue a little.

[Playmakers]

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Great! work Playmakers, I was wondering if these are the Default rosters that you've worked on and not EA latest online download rosters that U can get when playing online. The reason I've asked that is because U don't have Smush Parker on the Lakers at all, and he's on the latest Lakers online roster from EA. It's not a biggie, I just want to know what U think his player ratings should be like! Once again it been said before but U are Da Man!! Thanks for Ur hard work!!

Yeah I used the DEFAULT rosters and just modified them on my own. I did update all the recent trades. I'm going to look around for Smush Parker CAPS later but he'll most likely be the only player I create.

Those EA Rosters IMO will still have players low on defensive awareness and too high on awareness so they would still have to be balanced out. Apparently EA's idea of high offensive awareness means that every player should fly up the court on fast breaks or take quick shots.

[Playmakers]

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You can actually use 12 minute quarters with these sliers..just have to mess with fatigue a little.

Yeah Fatigue actually works pretty good in this game. But for 12 minutes you would have to get the CPU team move the ball around alot more in order to keep scores realistic.

The most I would suggest is 9 minute qtr's unless your willing to go down even lower on gamespeed and just increase the speed of the players even higher to offset it.