Its time, no more hiding

[NoTiCe_O]

Re: Its time, no more hiding

That's not neccasarily the case either. Will the game be bought by gamers who buy mainly sports games? Maybe. Most likely it won't reach the masses.

Perfect example of a game not getting good sales (despite being universally acclaimed by critics) is Psychonauts. Go look it up in your free time. There are tons of good games going un-bought simply because the marketing wasn't a strong enough presence. EA's not having a strong enough presence on the casuals.

Anyone who signs up on OS (a SPORTS gaming website/forum/review website) can not be called a casual.

NBA Live developed by "EA Sports" produced by Electronic Arts >>> Psychonauts developed by "Double Fine Productions" produced by Majesco (Who?)

The EA sports logo on the front cover of this game alone is enough to entice casuals gamers. Looking at the quality of the other EA sports titles casual fans could "assume" this game would be good; brand recognition.

[NoTiCe_O]

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You miss one important point: the reason people are here is because of a "leak". And accident. Not marketing. The only tie to marketing is the lack of it. None of these larger discussions happen without that leak.

Sorry to but in, but if all this commotion is stirred up by a unsatisfying leaked pre-alpha build of NBA Live, what do you think will happen when they actually release an official gameplay, especially if it's actually good.

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And so what? Does anyone really care if they don't get the opportunity to buy a bad game?

If the game is good, people will buy it. If it is not they will have EXACTLY what they have right now.

I think you can make a strong case that the game could be DOA, or even be vaporware. But who cares? They have not taken money for it yet.

But this kind of thread, calling out EA for "hiding," is an immature joke. All it does is tell EA that there are people dying to watch their commercials. It seriously blows me away how gamers demand to have publishers cram marketing BS down their throats.

that post was addressed. To Paul pierce don't answer if you're going to tip toe around it and you being another new guy weren't around when

A leaked video happened but ea breaks silence only to tell us it's old completely different to what people who saw the game said and two an ea rep posted here in os immediately afterwards in like manner about listening to the fans

So please talk when you have proper information otherwise don't address posts that's directed to someone else's statements

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NBA Live developed by "EA Sports" produced by Electronic Arts >>> Psychonauts developed by "Double Fine Productions" produced by Majesco (Who?)

The EA sports logo on the front cover of this game alone is enough to entice casuals gamers. Looking at the quality of the other EA sports titles casual fans could "assume" this game would be good; brand recognition.

Anyone that familiar with the EA Sports brand, built by Madden and in a smaller part, Live, would be more aware of the Live situation. Not all that casual. Just saying.

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Sorry to but in, but if all this commotion is stirred up by a unsatisfying leaked pre-alpha build of NBA Live, what do you think will happen when they actually release an official gameplay, especially if it's actually good.

Then the Furor caused by the leak will die down. That does not imply MORE hype for the better footage that would still have to compare favorably to the competition.

[NoTiCe_O]

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Ea isn't going after 2ks market they're going after a market that doesn't give ten craps about their game

They have yet to our out a quality game and it's not looking good now and word if mouth is against them

Seriously you can't be this out of touch

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Both EA & 2k are trying to sell their product to basketball gamers. There isn't enough info out about the game to say their going after a market that doesn't care about their game. We barely know what the game will be like so who knows what kind of market it will attract (besides the obvious basketball gamers)

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that post was addressed. To Paul pierce don't answer if you're going to tip toe around it and you being another new guy weren't around when

A leaked video happened but ea breaks silence only to tell us it's old completely different to what people who saw the game said and two an ea rep posted here in os immediately afterwards in like manner about listening to the fans

So please talk when you have proper information otherwise don't address posts that's directed to someone else's statements

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What dose being here almost a year have to do with anything? I know a lot of people here are former live fans. And I know people who now play 2k WANT the game to be good for competition purposes and for the fact they were/ are live fans. But to for people to repeatedly say theirs 0 interest in this game is silly IMO.

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Both EA & 2k are trying to sell their product to basketball gamers. There isn't enough info out about the game to say their going after a market that doesn't care about their game. We barely know what the game will be like so who knows what kind of market it will attract (besides the obvious basketball gamers)

They said they were aiming at a more casual market than 2k during Elite development. But that was then..

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What dose being here almost a year have to do with anything? I know a lot of people here are former live fans. And I know people who now play 2k WANT the game to be good for competition purposes and for the fact they were/ are live fans. But to for people to repeatedly say theirs 0 interest in this game is silly IMO.

No one denies the interest. That's why you have this thread. So why are you arguing its existence?

[NoTiCe_O]

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Anyone that familiar with the EA Sports brand, built by Madden and in a smaller part, Live, would be more aware of the Live situation. Not all that casual. Just saying.

But we were talking about games that were good but didn't sell well. I'm just showing that the company that develops the game is a selling point in itself.

Then the Furor caused by the leak will die down. That does not imply MORE hype for the better footage that would still have to compare favorably to the competition.

The thing is that the leak was seen by a small percentage of people and still created a buzz. While the official video would be broadcasted to a much larger percentage of people, building even more buzz, and "if" the game is actually good then the buzz will work in EA's favor.

They said they were aiming at a more casual market than 2k during Elite development. But that was then..

Your right, that was then... Casual fan or hardcore fan at the base of it Live is still after basketball gamers.

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But we were talking about games that were good but didn't sell well. I'm just showing that the company that develops the game is a selling point in itself.




The thing is that the leak was seen by a small percentage of people and still created a buzz. While the official video would be broadcasted to a much larger percentage of people, building even more buzz, and "if" the game is actually good then the buzz will work in EA's favor.

Then EA Sports brand is certainly recognized. But it's losing quite a bit of trust over the years. That matters.

I took a quick survey of my FB friends and asked who saw the video of Live. I got a lot of replies along the lines of "f EA!" and "why bother?".

I'm telling you man, bad news spreads MUCH faster and people will hear the bad much more than the good. If any good news comes from there, it will not spread as fast and will not have the effect you hope.

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What dose being here almost a year have to do with anything? I know a lot of people here are former live fans. And I know people who now play 2k WANT the game to be good for competition purposes and for the fact they were/ are live fans. But to for people to repeatedly say theirs 0 interest in this game is silly IMO.

Wasn't talking about you first off being new

And by that I meant him missing the events I mentioned following that statement as to why the thread was made in the first place

His comments are without full information

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But we were talking about games that were good but didn't sell well. I'm just showing that the company that develops the game is a selling point in itself.




The thing is that the leak was seen by a small percentage of people and still created a buzz. While the official video would be broadcasted to a much larger percentage of people, building even more buzz, and "if" the game is actually good then the buzz will work in EA's favor.

Dude there were articles smashing the game long before that video leak. You know that because you saw them

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But we were talking about games that were good but didn't sell well. I'm just showing that the company that develops the game is a selling point in itself.




The thing is that the leak was seen by a small percentage of people and still created a buzz. While the official video would be broadcasted to a much larger percentage of people, building even more buzz, and "if" the game is actually good then the buzz will work in EA's favor.

Dude do you see the stuff you're talking about? It was seen by a small percentage of people? How do you know this? How's it magically going to be seen by more people if EA officially releases something as compared to what came out already? It was on friggin Youtube and all over the net. Come on now man.

[NoTiCe_O]

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Dude there were articles smashing the game long before that video leak. You know that because you saw them

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I did see them, but those articles were based of a game that was in very early development. Until EA releases something recent and official for me to fully examine everything else is just opinions, rumors, and speculation.