Iverson not giving a Olympic Invitation.......

[bkrich83]

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who somebody compared AI to marbury ( AI won that battle a long time ago in college) franccis too LOL. Like I said before iverson is the most unapperciated and underrated player in the NBA, try averaging 8-10 assist a game with a bunch of bench plyers on your team and yeah Im calling webber a bench player he is not the young c-webb anymore. iverson is a good defender is not great but he is not bad neither, surely a better passer than luke ridnour. " he is not a team player" that is the most overrated comment people say about AI try watching ALL 82 games the sixers play then comment on that, yeah he is going to score 30 a game but he will give you atleast 6 assist too, and getting assist with a bunch of bench players on your team doesnt come easy. AI penatrates alot if he feel that he got a clear shot why wont he take it he is the go to guy if you dont like that then tell billy king to bring in a true pg and anthor scorer who can create his own shot or a fresh big man. AI never had a fresh big man in his whole carrer.

Umm.. Ok.

[Rocky]

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I don't see how it's a lock that Ridnour even makes the team. However I believe Ridnour fits what they want to do better than Iverson does. Purely speculation on my part. Bout time they tried to put a team together, instead of just grabbing up all the top scorers in the league and rolling the ball out for them.

With the scorers they already have, is Iverson a needed component? Not to mention this doesn't mean he won't be on the final team.

Thing is, Luke Ridnour does NOTHING better than Allen Iverson. Nothing.

The only explanation I see fits with AI not making the USA team is his age and the fact that it seems that they wanted to go with younger players. I think D. Wade clashes more with Iverson's style more than anybody and I personally think D Wade is the best player on this team and should get the most minutes. If it came down to those two, I can definately see how you can take Wade over AI but nonetheless, Iverson is one of the top 10 basketball players in the WORLD and he at least deserves to hear exactly why he didnt get an invitation.

[bkrich83]

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Thing is, Luke Ridnour does NOTHING better than Allen Iverson. Nothing.

The only explanation I see fits with AI not making the USA team is his age and the fact that it seems that they wanted to go with younger players. I think D. Wade clashes more with Iverson's style more than anybody and I personally think D Wade is the best player on this team and should get the most minutes. If it came down to those two, I can definately see how you can take Wade over AI but nonetheless, Iverson is one of the top 10 basketball players in the WORLD and he at least deserves to hear exactly why he didnt get an invitation.

I buy in to that. But is Iverson a better perimeter shooter than Ridnour? And why is everyone assuming Ridnour is making the team. My only disagreement is Iverson being a Top 10 player in the world. But that's for another thread.

[Dallasin2K3]

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Look at it this way.. Say the best 15 players in the NBA are all point guards. Do you take those players just because they are the best and turn them into team USA? No way. Why? Because you are making a team. Between Bryant, LeBron, Wade, etc., there are enough scorers on this team. They need guys who will distribute the ball, because it will make the better team. I'm not saying AI is not capable of doing that, he probably is, but you have to realize he has been the ONE GOOD PLAYER on the floor for 10 years now, he's had to do all the scoring, as a result, that is what he is good at and that is the type of player he is. No fault to him, that's just the way he is. Chris Paul, although not as good one-on-one as AI and certainly not as good of a scorer, is a player more suited to filling the role that is needed on the team.

[Briman123]

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I buy in to that. But is Iverson a better perimeter shooter than Ridnour? And why is everyone assuming Ridnour is making the team. My only disagreement is Iverson being a Top 10 player in the world. But that's for another thread.

Ridnour shoots around 1 three per game. Iverson takes 3 three's per game and averages around 1.0 for 3.0 threes. So yeah in that respect he is a better perimeter shooter. Not picking Iverson was a bad decision in my view, and people like Argentine coach calling him selfish and other bologne was a joke. Allen Iverson averages more assist anyways. If I had a to choice a guy over Ridnour and leave AI out it would probaly be Brevin Knight.

[Tilted Brim]

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Ridnour may be a solid NBA player one day but give me a break. He hasn't earned the respect to even have his name mentioned in the same breath as AI'.......

[keRplunK]

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Ridnour may be a solid NBA player one day but give me a break. He hasn't earned the respect to even have his name mentioned in the same breath as AI'.......

They aren't comparable at all. Ridnour is a pass first, pass second, then shoot point guard.

Iverson is the opposite. Ridnour can pass as good as anyone not named Kidd or Nash and both of them declined. He's obviously not in the same world as Iverson on most levels, but Iverson wouldn't come anyways if he was going to be given 2-10 minutes a game that Ridnour would get.

ASSUMING he makes the team, which would surprise me.

[Tilted Brim]

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They aren't comparable at all. Ridnour is a pass first, pass second, then shoot point guard.

Iverson is the opposite. Ridnour can pass as good as anyone not named Kidd or Nash and both of them declined. He's obviously not in the same world as Iverson on most levels, but Iverson wouldn't come anyways if he was going to be given 2-10 minutes a game that Ridnour would get.
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ASSUMING he makes the team, which would surprise me.

Oh yeah, check your stats. Iverson averaging 7.4 assist per game to Ridnour 6.7. Ridnour is getting some pretty good minutes to at 34 per game which is around the league average. 33 points and 7.4 assist a game are phenomenal numbers Ridnour couldn't dream of averaging. My point is Iverson is beating Ridnour iat his own game and it goes unnoticed because of his great scoring ability. Very solid underrated passer.........

[keRplunK]

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Oh yeah, check your stats. Iverson averaging 7.4 assist per game to Ridnour 6.7. Ridnour is getting some pretty good minutes to at 34 per game which is around the league average. 33 points and 7.4 assist a game are phenomenal numbers Ridnour couldn't dream of averaging. My point is Iverson is beating Ridnour iat his own game and it goes unnoticed because of his great scoring ability. Very solid underrated passer.........

He has the ball in his hands at all times, they aren't comparable at all.

What about my stats? Assist numbers don't tell the whole story.

[Thrasha]

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Look at it this way.. Say the best 15 players in the NBA are all point guards. Do you take those players just because they are the best and turn them into team USA? No way. Why? Because you are making a team. Between Bryant, LeBron, Wade, etc., there are enough scorers on this team. They need guys who will distribute the ball, because it will make the better team. I'm not saying AI is not capable of doing that, he probably is, but you have to realize he has been the ONE GOOD PLAYER on the floor for 10 years now, he's had to do all the scoring, as a result, that is what he is good at and that is the type of player he is. No fault to him, that's just the way he is. Chris Paul, although not as good one-on-one as AI and certainly not as good of a scorer, is a player more suited to filling the role that is needed on the team.

I sort of understand why AI wasn't extended an olympic invite, but I do believe he could be a pass first/pass second PG if they wanted.

The past few all-star games he has been very unselfish (I know it's probably a poor example but whatever). Dishing to anyone and everyone.

[bkrich83]

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Oh yeah, check your stats. Iverson averaging 7.4 assist per game to Ridnour 6.7. Ridnour is getting some pretty good minutes to at 34 per game which is around the league average. 33 points and 7.4 assist a game are phenomenal numbers Ridnour couldn't dream of averaging. My point is Iverson is beating Ridnour iat his own game and it goes unnoticed because of his great scoring ability. Very solid underrated passer.........

Stats don't tell the whole story. Not to mention you fail to point out the fact that Iverson only has about a 2 to 1 Assist to Turnover ratio while Ridnour's is closer to 3.5 to 1 I believe. Not to mention in about 10 minutes more per game, Iverson averages only .6 assists more than Ridnour while also averaging 1.2 more turnovers.

If your looking for PG who distributes the ball and does not turn it over, then Ridnour may indeed be the better choice. Although truthfully, I seriously doubt he makes the final roster.

[Jukeman]

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AI vs ridnour isnt the problem, the problem is that AI should have been the first player picked for the team, nothing against wade but AI should had come before him. I would rather have brevin knight on the team instead of ridnour if we need a pour PG.