Question to the House: Why Isn't Dirk in MVP Discussion?

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  • Seether4113
    R**k**
    • Feb 2003
    • 536

    #76
    Re: Question to the House: Why Isn't Dirk in MVP Discussion?

    Why is it so hard for everyone to understand that the Mavs are better off without Nash? Nobody ever claimed that Terry and/or Harris are better players than Nash, but they fit our system MUCH better. We dont want someone who plays NO defense, despite how great he is at the offensive end.
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    • Seether4113
      R**k**
      • Feb 2003
      • 536

      #77
      Re: Question to the House: Why Isn't Dirk in MVP Discussion?

      Originally posted by nkhera1
      Actually D'Antoni's system needs a player like Steve Nash. If it was so easy to run this kind of system why doesn't everyone do it? Why don't teams just start converting their pgs in 20 and 11 men shooting above 50%? You say that Nash benefits from the system, yet discredit the system Dallas is using where they place more emphasis on defense, plus its not like Dallas didn't do anything to replace Nash. If I'm not mistaken they brought in guys like Stackhouse, Jamison, and Walker and eventually traded them for their current core so you can't compare a Nash less Dallas with the team they have now.
      Why doesnt everyone do it? Maybe because its proven time and time again that this system doesnt get it done in the Playoffs. Trust me, I saw it happen several times in the past decade - great season, look to be in position to make a title run, then you play a defensive-minded team and you lose.
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      • Vince
        Bow for Bau
        • Aug 2002
        • 26017

        #78
        Re: Question to the House: Why Isn't Dirk in MVP Discussion?

        Dirk is always in the discussion. No whether he's in the discussion as a top 2-3 candidate, that can be debated.
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        • SoMiss2000
          Hall Of Fame
          • Oct 2002
          • 20499

          #79
          Re: Question to the House: Why Isn't Dirk in MVP Discussion?

          Originally posted by Vince
          Dirk is always in the discussion. No whether he's in the discussion as a top 2-3 candidate, that can be debated.
          you have the floor. debate it. why shouldn't he be in the top 3? because it isn't just him a nd a team full of role players? is it because he has help?
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          • Brandon13
            All Star
            • Oct 2005
            • 8915

            #80
            Re: Question to the House: Why Isn't Dirk in MVP Discussion?

            Kinda off topic here, but Dallas is whooping LA's *** right now.

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              yellow
              • Sep 2002
              • 66469

              #81
              Re: Question to the House: Why Isn't Dirk in MVP Discussion?

              lol

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              • ZB9
                Hall Of Fame
                • Nov 2004
                • 18387

                #82
                Re: Question to the House: Why Isn't Dirk in MVP Discussion?

                Originally posted by Vince
                Dirk is always in the discussion. No whether he's in the discussion as a top 2-3 candidate, that can be debated.
                why wouldnt he be one of the top two candidates? because of his supporting cast?

                if that is the case then Dallas should have 3 all-stars this season. They havent had 3 different all-stars in the PREVIOUS three seasons combined.

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                • Vince
                  Bow for Bau
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 26017

                  #83
                  Re: Question to the House: Why Isn't Dirk in MVP Discussion?

                  Originally posted by SoMiss2000
                  you have the floor. debate it. why shouldn't he be in the top 3? because it isn't just him a nd a team full of role players? is it because he has help?
                  you have the floor?lol

                  i think he's a top 3 candidate for the record.

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                  • ZB9
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 18387

                    #84
                    Re: Question to the House: Why Isn't Dirk in MVP Discussion?

                    Originally posted by Vince
                    you have the floor?lol

                    i think he's a top 3 candidate for the record.

                    Nash







                    Dirk
                    Arenas
                    k another question, somewhat OT....who should make the all-star team between Shawn Marion and Josh Howard in your opinion?

                    btw, the fact that you put Nash so extremely far ahead of Dirk is crazy and pretty much takes a lot of credibility away from any or your lists in the future imo
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                    • WTF
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 20274

                      #85
                      Re: Question to the House: Why Isn't Dirk in MVP Discussion?

                      And putting Arenas up there, but that's another story. Sure, he's having a good year... but there are quite a few others who are above him, well, in my opinion anyway.
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                      • ZB9
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 18387

                        #86
                        Re: Question to the House: Why Isn't Dirk in MVP Discussion?

                        Originally posted by WTF
                        And putting Arenas up there, but that's another story. Sure, he's having a good year... but there are quite a few others who are above him, well, in my opinion anyway.
                        i agree.

                        Arenas over Kobe, Lebron, and Duncan? yea right (although Arenas is a "candidate" imho)

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                        • SoMiss2000
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 20499

                          #87
                          Re: Question to the House: Why Isn't Dirk in MVP Discussion?

                          Originally posted by WTF
                          And putting Arenas up there, but that's another story. Sure, he's having a good year... but there are quite a few others who are above him, well, in my opinion anyway.
                          and then there is that eastern conference factor.
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                          • WTF
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 20274

                            #88
                            Re: Question to the House: Why Isn't Dirk in MVP Discussion?

                            Oh, I agree completely... If it were up to me, after watching Dirk the past few games, I would have to say that not only is he top 3, he may be my #1-2 candidate at the moment. I mean, Nash is having a GREAT season, but to me, I think Dirk deserves it a little more at this point.
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                              yellow
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 66469

                              #89
                              Re: Question to the House: Why Isn't Dirk in MVP Discussion?

                              You'd be surprised WT.

                              Dirk is definitely top 3 but that #1 spot is a hard spot to take and keep.

                              Can show you but this is or was supposed to be just a Dirk thread. We have people here posting about the Spurs game and all kinds of crap.

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                              • ZB9
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Nov 2004
                                • 18387

                                #90
                                Re: Question to the House: Why Isn't Dirk in MVP Discussion?

                                Originally posted by WTF
                                Oh, I agree completely... If it were up to me, after watching Dirk the past few games, I would have to say that not only is he top 3, he may be my #1-2 candidate at the moment. I mean, Nash is having a GREAT season, but to me, I think Dirk deserves it a little more at this point.
                                and you can add the fact that Nash has already won 2 in a row

                                how many in a row did Shaq and Duncan win?

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