All Kobe and Laker Talk.....

**ShaKobe** · 04-08-2003, 01:51 PM

Re: All Kobe Talk.....

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Sha, add in there Zero Playoff, finals, or regular season MVPs, and you've got a regular o'l "Scottie Pippen".

He's the "scottie pippen" on that team until Shaq is away from his side, or kobe's scoring 50 ppg.

30 ppg just isnt impressive enough to classify him as anything special. Shaquille demands 4 defenders at all times.

let me remind you of the Suns-lakers game afew nights ago.
Bo outlaw jumped on Shaq's back. A 6-10 260 lbs. BEAST. Shaq didn't seem to notice.

It just so happened Shaq peaked at the right time, almost 6 years into his career, and kobe has been riding along side this whole time.

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Thats BS and you know it.

30 ppg game isnt anything special? how many people not named Mike have averaged this in the past 15 years?

People act like anyone could average 30 with Shaq on their team.

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Throw Lebron on the Lakers, and take into account Kobe is not with LA, have lebron starting along side Shaq, and you'll see 35 ppg GURANTEED.

People DONT REALIZE the PROWNESS shaq HAS on the game of basketball.

I could score 4 ppg with Shaq on my side.

I'm only 6-4 and play SG, but i'm sure Shaq could feed me some open jumpers.

I'm just saying, Shaq gives teammates like Kobe such a great advantage, you can basicially thank Shaq and credit him for 12 of Kobe's points.

30-12= 18.

Thats his real average.

Thats the way it goes.

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These posts make me really question whether u really watch Laker games at all.

Was Kobe averaging 18 when Shaq was gone earlier this year? NO!

So what makes you think that Kobe "real" points are only 18?

I wont even speculate to what Lebron would average because thats stupid. I have never seen Lebron play against pros so I dont know what he would average. I do know that Kobe has avearged 30 this year.

Finally is "PROWNESS" a word? If so, what does it mean?

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Ok, I gotta agree there, I don't think you watch Laker games. We were having a good bantar going on, but then you said that Kobe would be averaging only 18ppg without Shaq. You just totally lost me, and now I don't know what to do.

**ShaKobe** · 04-08-2003, 01:51 PM

Re: All Kobe Talk.....

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Sha, add in there Zero Playoff, finals, or regular season MVPs, and you've got a regular o'l "Scottie Pippen".

He's the "scottie pippen" on that team until Shaq is away from his side, or kobe's scoring 50 ppg.

30 ppg just isnt impressive enough to classify him as anything special. Shaquille demands 4 defenders at all times.

let me remind you of the Suns-lakers game afew nights ago.
Bo outlaw jumped on Shaq's back. A 6-10 260 lbs. BEAST. Shaq didn't seem to notice.

It just so happened Shaq peaked at the right time, almost 6 years into his career, and kobe has been riding along side this whole time.

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Thats BS and you know it.

30 ppg game isnt anything special? how many people not named Mike have averaged this in the past 15 years?

People act like anyone could average 30 with Shaq on their team.

<hr /></blockquote>

Throw Lebron on the Lakers, and take into account Kobe is not with LA, have lebron starting along side Shaq, and you'll see 35 ppg GURANTEED.

People DONT REALIZE the PROWNESS shaq HAS on the game of basketball.

I could score 4 ppg with Shaq on my side.

I'm only 6-4 and play SG, but i'm sure Shaq could feed me some open jumpers.

I'm just saying, Shaq gives teammates like Kobe such a great advantage, you can basicially thank Shaq and credit him for 12 of Kobe's points.

30-12= 18.

Thats his real average.

Thats the way it goes.

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These posts make me really question whether u really watch Laker games at all.

Was Kobe averaging 18 when Shaq was gone earlier this year? NO!

So what makes you think that Kobe "real" points are only 18?

I wont even speculate to what Lebron would average because thats stupid. I have never seen Lebron play against pros so I dont know what he would average. I do know that Kobe has avearged 30 this year.

Finally is "PROWNESS" a word? If so, what does it mean?

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Ok, I gotta agree there, I don't think you watch Laker games. We were having a good bantar going on, but then you said that Kobe would be averaging only 18ppg without Shaq. You just totally lost me, and now I don't know what to do.

**DONOTDELETE** · 04-08-2003, 01:53 PM

Re: All Kobe Talk.....

obviously i'm outnumbered by the souther cali laker fans, so i'll just back off until FoxyBoy comes around to defend me.

I'm just giving you an outsighters point of view and opinion.

I watch the game. I've had LP for 4 years. My life is basicially basketball. I'm not just some dipsh** wanting to hate on "LA".

I honestly think I have some valid reasons.

**DONOTDELETE** · 04-08-2003, 01:53 PM

Re: All Kobe Talk.....

obviously i'm outnumbered by the souther cali laker fans, so i'll just back off until FoxyBoy comes around to defend me.

I'm just giving you an outsighters point of view and opinion.

I watch the game. I've had LP for 4 years. My life is basicially basketball. I'm not just some dipsh** wanting to hate on "LA".

I honestly think I have some valid reasons.

**DONOTDELETE** · 04-08-2003, 01:57 PM

Re: All Kobe Talk.....

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obviously i'm outnumbered by the souther cali laker fans, so i'll just back off until FoxyBoy comes around to defend me.

I'm just giving you an outsighters point of view and opinion.

I watch the game. I've had LP for 4 years. My life is basicially basketball. I'm not just some dipsh** wanting to hate on "LA".

I honestly think I have some valid reasons.

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You're relying on FOXYboy to come by and defend you?

**DONOTDELETE** · 04-08-2003, 01:57 PM

Re: All Kobe Talk.....

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obviously i'm outnumbered by the souther cali laker fans, so i'll just back off until FoxyBoy comes around to defend me.

I'm just giving you an outsighters point of view and opinion.

I watch the game. I've had LP for 4 years. My life is basicially basketball. I'm not just some dipsh** wanting to hate on "LA".

I honestly think I have some valid reasons.

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You're relying on FOXYboy to come by and defend you?

**DONOTDELETE** · 04-08-2003, 01:58 PM

Re: All Kobe Talk.....

Aholbert, I meant Prowess.

Superior skill or ability.
Superior strength, courage, or daring, especially in battle.

**DONOTDELETE** · 04-08-2003, 01:58 PM

Re: All Kobe Talk.....

Aholbert, I meant Prowess.

Superior skill or ability.
Superior strength, courage, or daring, especially in battle.

**Westybro** · 04-08-2003, 01:58 PM

Re: All Kobe Talk.....

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obviously i'm outnumbered by the souther cali laker fans, so i'll just back off until FoxyBoy comes around to defend me.

I'm just giving you an outsighters point of view and opinion.

I watch the game. I've had LP for 4 years. My life is basicially basketball. I'm not just some dipsh** wanting to hate on "LA".

I honestly think I have some valid reasons.

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Yeah, that Lebron point is extremely VALID. Good one, you should do this for a living.

**Westybro** · 04-08-2003, 01:58 PM

Re: All Kobe Talk.....

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obviously i'm outnumbered by the souther cali laker fans, so i'll just back off until FoxyBoy comes around to defend me.

I'm just giving you an outsighters point of view and opinion.

I watch the game. I've had LP for 4 years. My life is basicially basketball. I'm not just some dipsh** wanting to hate on "LA".

I honestly think I have some valid reasons.

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Yeah, that Lebron point is extremely VALID. Good one, you should do this for a living.

**DONOTDELETE** · 04-08-2003, 01:59 PM

Re: All Kobe Talk.....

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I'm just saying, Shaq gives teammates like Kobe such a great advantage, you can basicially thank Shaq and credit him for 12 of Kobe's points.

30-12= 18.

Thats his real average.

Thats the way it goes.

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So, does this mean that if TMac was on the Lakers with Shaq then he would average 32+12 = 44ppg!!!!!??!?

**DONOTDELETE** · 04-08-2003, 01:59 PM

Re: All Kobe Talk.....

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I'm just saying, Shaq gives teammates like Kobe such a great advantage, you can basicially thank Shaq and credit him for 12 of Kobe's points.

30-12= 18.

Thats his real average.

Thats the way it goes.

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So, does this mean that if TMac was on the Lakers with Shaq then he would average 32+12 = 44ppg!!!!!??!?

**ShaKobe** · 04-08-2003, 01:59 PM

Re: All Kobe Talk.....

Well, I think you had some valid points too. But I think you don't think/see enough of Kobe. He is an amazing talent. He is as good, if not better than, Tracy McGrady. The thing that TMac has on Kobe is about an inch or two in height (which does a lot, especially for a 2-guard) and his own team, built around him. Kobe has everything else, the skills, the work ethic, the defense, the drive, and the heart.

I think Shaq does take a lot off a teammate, in terms of open looks, but you don't see Fisher averaging 30ppg or even 20ppg. For Kobe to be averaging around 30ppg with Shaq, I think it says a lot about his skills. I don't think you should be subtracting points. Instead, you should be adding points without Shaq.

**ShaKobe** · 04-08-2003, 01:59 PM

Re: All Kobe Talk.....

Well, I think you had some valid points too. But I think you don't think/see enough of Kobe. He is an amazing talent. He is as good, if not better than, Tracy McGrady. The thing that TMac has on Kobe is about an inch or two in height (which does a lot, especially for a 2-guard) and his own team, built around him. Kobe has everything else, the skills, the work ethic, the defense, the drive, and the heart.

I think Shaq does take a lot off a teammate, in terms of open looks, but you don't see Fisher averaging 30ppg or even 20ppg. For Kobe to be averaging around 30ppg with Shaq, I think it says a lot about his skills. I don't think you should be subtracting points. Instead, you should be adding points without Shaq.

**aholbert32** · 04-08-2003, 02:00 PM

Re: All Kobe Talk.....

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obviously i'm outnumbered by the souther cali laker fans, so i'll just back off until FoxyBoy comes around to defend me.

I'm just giving you an outsighters point of view and opinion.

I watch the game. I've had LP for 4 years. My life is basicially basketball. I'm not just some dipsh** wanting to hate on "LA".

I honestly think I have some valid reasons.

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I would just like 1 valid reason that Kobe would average 18 if Shaq was gone?

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