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  • DC
    Hall Of Fame
    • Oct 2002
    • 17996

    #91
    Re: MVP Discussions

    Originally posted by 23


    So ummm whats your case for Dwyane Wade being in the talks then?

    Where is Miami again... do they have a better record than Portland?

    Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
    Wade has no chance. According to trends, there hasn't been an MVP from a team that DIDN'T host at least the first round in like 20 something years. I don't see it being any different this year. Wade has no realistic chance. The media ,ight talk about it but he has no chance

    It is all about LeBron

    :wink:
    Concrete evidence/videos please

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    • 23
      yellow
      • Sep 2002
      • 66469

      #92
      Re: MVP Discussions

      I already have LeBron as my MVP pick from the first post, but the statement you made apply's directly to Dwyane Wade whom many on here are making arguments for

      How can it apply to Roy and not Wade, and only be absurd for one guy and not the other?

      Now That, is what is a mess

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      • DC
        Hall Of Fame
        • Oct 2002
        • 17996

        #93
        Re: MVP Discussions

        I never made an argument for Wade though LOL. Wade is a more acceptable discussion than some Brandon Roy. Thats why I didn't get on anyone saying Wade.

        Yes it is absurd for Roy to be mentioned. It isn't for Wade because he is destroying the league and anyone that stands in HIS way.

        Roy isn't even a top 10 player (when everyone is healthy), so of course he shouldn't be mentioned.

        Wade is a top 3 wing player that is having probably the best season out of all of the wings in the NBA. Can't say the same about Roy.

        Team success is only ONE part of the criteria.

        Again Roy being mentioned makes no logical sense AT ALL.

        You know this too, why are we wasting each other's time with this man? Really?
        Concrete evidence/videos please

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        • ex carrabba fan
          I'll thank him for you
          • Oct 2004
          • 32744

          #94
          Re: MVP Discussions

          Originally posted by Kashanova
          just cause people don't agree with u doesn't make it hate.
          Sure it doesn't, until I pull up track records.

          He never disagreed with anything I said at all, I disagree with what he said. Roy at #4 is just about the most off-based thing I've read here in a while-- and that's saying something.

          Will Roy even make the All NBA 3rd team? LOL at him being #4 in the MVP race.

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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #95
            Re: MVP Discussions

            Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
            I never made an argument for Wade though LOL. Wade is a more acceptable discussion than some Brandon Roy. Thats why I didn't get on anyone saying Wade.

            Yes it is absurd for Roy to be mentioned. It isn't for Wade because he is destroying the league and anyone that stands in HIS way.

            Roy isn't even a top 10 player (when everyone is healthy), so of course he shouldn't be mentioned.

            Wade is a top 3 wing player that is having probably the best season out of all of the wings in the NBA. Can't say the same about Roy.

            Team success is only ONE part of the criteria.

            Again Roy being mentioned makes no logical sense AT ALL.

            You know this too, why are we wasting each other's time with this man? Really?

            I said others here have been making the argument and destroying the league leading to mediocre results has never put anyone in the MVP race sorry

            Its been done over and over and the same conclusion has been handed out.

            It was YOU who brought up what place Portland is in, which is a better record than Miami's

            By YOUR logic Roy should be a candidate over Wade... just so you see that, and no you arent going to change my mind about anything at all

            Just stick with your opinion and Ill keep mine. I dont have either for my pick so It doesnt matter to me but dont come on here acting like a guy shot at your family when he picks someone when freaking PJ BROWN got an MVP vote in his last year with the Hornets.

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            • ex carrabba fan
              I'll thank him for you
              • Oct 2004
              • 32744

              #96
              Re: MVP Discussions

              And just like the guy who picked PJ Brown that one year was blasted, so should a guy who thinks Roy is #4 in the race.

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              • 23
                yellow
                • Sep 2002
                • 66469

                #97
                Re: MVP Discussions

                Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                And just like the guy who picked PJ Brown that one year was blasted, so should a guy who thinks Roy is #4 in the race.
                Blast away ec if you feel thats your mission. That logic is full of holes to say what place Portland is in when they're 2nd in the division and Miami has a lesser record and further away from their division title and a mediocre record.

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                • DC
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 17996

                  #98
                  Re: MVP Discussions

                  LOL And the PJ Brown pick makes even less sense. Why bring that up as if you THINK I would support that.

                  LOL @ Me acting like a guy shot at my family. YOU are acting like I shot dude and he is in YOUR family. Get it correct 23.

                  According to my logic Roy deserves it more than Wade? How so? When I clearly said team success is ONE part of the award? You are just talking to be talking now. Wade KILLS him individually. Team wise, I guess they are even. Portland is a better team to me though. How that translates into me believing Roy is more deserving than Wade is something you pulled out of your trashcan

                  I know I keep saying I will leave it alone but this is the final point.

                  YOU or I don't believe Roy is 4th place in the runnings.

                  I wave the white flag.

                  We shouldn't even be having this back and forth because his name should have NEVER been mentioned to start with.
                  Concrete evidence/videos please

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                  • ex carrabba fan
                    I'll thank him for you
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 32744

                    #99
                    Re: MVP Discussions

                    Originally posted by 23
                    Blast away ec if you feel thats your mission. That logic is full of holes to say what place Portland is in when they're 2nd in the division and Miami has a lesser record and further away from their division title and a mediocre record.
                    Nope not my mission, just commenting on what I'm seeing. Roy's name should have never been mentioned just like DC said above.

                    To compare Wade and Roy is simply uncalled for. I don't care what their records are.

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                    • 23
                      yellow
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 66469

                      #100
                      Re: MVP Discussions

                      Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                      Nope not my mission, just commenting on what I'm seeing. Roy's name should have never been mentioned just like DC said above.

                      To compare Wade and Roy is simply uncalled for. I don't care what their records are.

                      They werent compared, but their teams standings were by DC

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                      • Kashanova
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 12695

                        #101
                        Re: MVP Discussions

                        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                        Sure it doesn't, until I pull up track records.

                        He never disagreed with anything I said at all, I disagree with what he said. Roy at #4 is just about the most off-based thing I've read here in a while-- and that's saying something.

                        Will Roy even make the All NBA 3rd team? LOL at him being #4 in the MVP race.
                        If the blazers make it with a 6th seed pick I don't see why he can't be in the top 5

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                        • Kashanova
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 12695

                          #102
                          Re: MVP Discussions

                          Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                          And just like the guy who picked PJ Brown that one year was blasted, so should a guy who thinks Roy is #4 in the race.
                          lmfao

                          Roy and Brown are completely different. Brown is a ROLE PLAYER. Are you calling Roy a role player?

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                          • ex carrabba fan
                            I'll thank him for you
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 32744

                            #103
                            Re: MVP Discussions

                            Originally posted by 23
                            They werent compared, but their teams standings were by DC
                            Yeah I don't think he meant to use that as his main argument against Roy.

                            I think he explained pretty clearly all the reasons he believes Roy should not be at #4 and I agree with all of it.

                            I understand everyone has their own opinions, certain ones just make less sense than others-- Roy being in this thread is a prime example.

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                            • ex carrabba fan
                              I'll thank him for you
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 32744

                              #104
                              Re: MVP Discussions

                              Originally posted by Kashanova
                              If the blazers make it with a 6th seed pick I don't see why he can't be in the top 5
                              Over Kobe Bryant though?
                              Originally posted by Kashanova
                              lmfao

                              Roy and Brown are completely different. Brown is a ROLE PLAYER. Are you calling Roy a role player?
                              yeah that's exactly what I'm calling Roy, hell he's not even the best player on his team . What in the world are you talking about.

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                              • Kashanova
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 12695

                                #105
                                Re: MVP Discussions

                                Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                                Over Kobe Bryant though?

                                yeah that's exactly what I'm calling Roy, hell he's not even the best player on his team . What in the world are you talking about.
                                ok why should one be blasted for roy being in the discussion ?

                                the pj brown doesn't nearly didnt have the same impact on his team that roy has on his

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