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  • Altimus
    Chelsea, Assemble!
    • Nov 2004
    • 27283

    #8746
    Re: The LeBron James Thread

    I'm not saying it's maturity. The bottom line is they ran a bonehead play against one of the better if not the best defensive teams in the league. It's pretty evident that:

    Thibs > LBJ

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    • Pared
      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
      • Feb 2003
      • 39337

      #8747
      Re: The LeBron James Thread

      It can also be good coaching.

      I'm shocked people haven't caught on to Pierce's tendency more often. He's hit a few game winners using the same exact move.
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      • Altimus
        Chelsea, Assemble!
        • Nov 2004
        • 27283

        #8748
        Re: The LeBron James Thread

        Originally posted by Pared
        It can also be good coaching.

        I'm shocked people haven't caught on to Pierce's tendency more often. He's hit a few game winners using the same exact move.
        Oh we've caught on to it, unfortunately as we Bulls fans found out years back, Vinny hasn't.

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        • Wang Chung
          Banned
          • Jan 2011
          • 120

          #8749
          Re: The LeBron James Thread

          Originally posted by jeebs9
          Unless they pull off some Celtic type trades. I don't see them winning a Championship for a long time.
          It will be interesting to see how the Knicks build around what they now have going forward. The Knicks might be better positioned to put together a more balanced roster. All those who say the Heat are a few pieces away need to also look at the Knicks.

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          • Wang Chung
            Banned
            • Jan 2011
            • 120

            #8750
            Re: The LeBron James Thread

            Originally posted by Altimus
            I'm not saying it's maturity. The bottom line is they ran a bonehead play against one of the better if not the best defensive teams in the league. It's pretty evident that:

            Thibs > LBJ
            Thibs is great and all but people need to give credit to Noah on that last play. Noah faced up with James at the top of the key. When that happened, James probably thought one burst of speed and he would blow by Noah. Noah's mobility was once again huge, only this time it wasn't his speed. Check out how Noah closed off James' angle by shuffling his feet from around the free throw line. How many centers are able to do that? Its no wonder James thought it would be easy because against most centers, that probably ends in a dunk if they face up with James that far out.

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            • Altimus
              Chelsea, Assemble!
              • Nov 2004
              • 27283

              #8751
              Re: The LeBron James Thread

              Originally posted by Wang Chung
              Thibs is great and all but people need to give credit to Noah on that last play. Noah faced up with James at the top of the key. When that happened, James probably thought one burst of speed and he would blow by Noah. Noah's mobility was once again huge, only this time it wasn't his speed. Check out how Noah closed off James' angle by shuffling his feet from around the free throw line. How many centers are able to do that? Its no wonder James thought it would be easy because against most centers, that probably ends in a dunk if they face up with James that far out.
              No doubt but James should have known that was going to happen. When Noah played him in the Playoffs last year he played him about the same as that play.

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              • jeebs9
                Fear is the Unknown
                • Oct 2008
                • 47568

                #8752
                Originally posted by Wang Chung
                It will be interesting to see how the Knicks build around what they now have going forward. The Knicks might be better positioned to put together a more balanced roster. All those who say the Heat are a few pieces away need to also look at the Knicks.
                Knicks need a coach... Trying to score 100 a game doesn't work in the long run. Those small line ups as well. Nice talent...but they seem like a at best second round team.


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                • Wang Chung
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                  • Jan 2011
                  • 120

                  #8753
                  Re: The LeBron James Thread

                  Originally posted by jeebs9
                  Knicks need a coach... Trying to score 100 a game doesn't work in the long run. Those small line ups as well. Nice talent...but they seem like a at best second round team.


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                  Yeah, you wonder how that will all play out. Its just hard to imagine D'Antoni being the guy to deliver the necessary defense to go along with the offensive players they have. I have some ideas in mind for who might make them a better defensive team. Lawrence Frank is working with the Celtics now. Though, Frank isn't the architect of that defense, playing that kind of a defense would really help the Knicks. You don't need to be a great individual defender in that defense. The other guy I think could work is Mike Brown, whose forte is defense. Plus Mike Brown could make a good story line if the Knicks and Heat face in the playoffs.

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                  • jeebs9
                    Fear is the Unknown
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 47568

                    #8754
                    Also guys.. I just watch the first half of the bulls vs heat game. They ran at least 10 sets in the first 6 minutes in the game. The one thing you do notice if they get a stop or rebound. They push the ball for easy points. They might have run iso 3-4 times. I don't get where you guys get that they don't run plays.
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                    • Graphik
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                      • Oct 2002
                      • 10582

                      #8755
                      Re: The LeBron James Thread

                      Originally posted by jeebs9
                      Also guys.. I just watch the first half of the bulls vs heat game. They ran at least 10 sets in the first 6 minutes in the game. The one thing you do notice if they get a stop or rebound. They push the ball for easy points. They might have run iso 3-4 times. I don't get where you guys get that they don't run plays.

                      2nd half of the game. When the Bulls bench comes from behind and gets the lead. Tell me how many set plays they run then.

                      There is no denying that they have a playbook. Its just that in late game situations, I rarely see anything besides Iso plays.
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                      • wwharton
                        *ll St*r
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 26949

                        #8756
                        Re: The LeBron James Thread

                        Originally posted by Scott812313
                        Couldn't disagree more. Miller has been a shell of himself for the better part of the last 3 seasons. Miami tried to GIVE him away at the trade deadline to no avail obviously....
                        He's been injured the last three years, which may also explain why they were trying to move them (remember they were dying to have him?). Even the years you're talking about, he averaged around 4 assists and 6.5 boards with his usual great percentages from 3 and the field. Healthy (assuming that will happen again at some point in his career) he is the perfect compliment to James and Wade.

                        Originally posted by Pared
                        I can't agree here HM.

                        I genuinely question LBJ's decision making in a lot of these cases. LBJ has always had success going to his right, yet in all these final plays he's going to his left all of a sudden..???

                        He's not passing off lately to an open shooter who probably has a better look.

                        He's trying to do the same thing he did to the Pistons only teams are swarming to him now. What's wrong with beating your man and then pulling up for a short jumper? He keeps taking it deep in the paint and taking a more difficult shot. It's just bad decision making. He's not gonna get better if he doesn't stop what he's doing right now. He may hit a few shots in his career like this going forward but the defense is adapting and he has to as well.
                        I see a lot of people mentioning James going left. Probably didn't know that he's left handed. I can't remember when I first heard it but I remember bc I'm the same way (write with my left hand but dominant with the right when playing sports). He may actually be more comfortable finishing to the left... and honestly, I've seen him drive left for layups more than right personally.

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                        • jeebs9
                          Fear is the Unknown
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 47568

                          #8757
                          Re: The LeBron James Thread

                          ^^ Yea I wanted to say that before but I didn't think it would hold much weight in here ^^
                          They think it is his weak hand. But its not... lol If Noah would have shaded him left. He would of went right... and vice versa. Can anyone find a stat of what precentage he shoots with both hands?

                          Originally posted by Graphik
                          2nd half of the game. When the Bulls bench comes from behind and gets the lead. Tell me how many set plays they run then.

                          There is no denying that they have a playbook. Its just that in late game situations, I rarely see anything besides Iso plays.
                          Isn't that what I said a few post back... lol (It was just that someone said before that they just have 4 guys standing around. Which isn't that case)

                          The problem right now is that when it gets late. They get away from the ball movement. They depend on pick and rolls and one on one plays. They just need to stick with the program and trust each other.

                          I also don't mind the rebound or stop push it rule they have. When you have LeBron James and Dwayne Wade. You have to let them free it up.
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                          • Graphik
                            Pr*s*n*r#70460649
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 10582

                            #8758
                            Re: The LeBron James Thread

                            [QUOTE=jeebs9;2042187298]^^ Yea I wanted to say that before but I didn't think it would hold much weight in here ^^
                            They think it is his weak hand. But its not... lol If Noah would have shaded him left. He would of went right... and vice versa. Can anyone find a stat of what precentage he shoots with both hands?



                            Isn't that what I said a few post back... lol (It was just that someone said before that they just have 4 guys standing around. Which isn't that case)

                            The problem right now is that when it gets late. They get away from the ball movement. They depend on pick and rolls and one on one plays. They just need to stick with the program and trust each other.

                            I also don't mind the rebound or stop push it rule they have. When you have LeBron James and Dwayne Wade. You have to let them free it up.[/
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                            Cant say I'm mad at that gameplan. Wade is fast as a giselle on the break and Bron looks like a locomotive when running the floor with the ball. If you can buy some cheap buckets while the D is snoozing, I'm all for it. To bad it doesn't work for 48 minutes.
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                            • Wang Chung
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                              • Jan 2011
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                              #8759
                              Re: The LeBron James Thread

                              Originally posted by jeebs9
                              Also guys.. I just watch the first half of the bulls vs heat game. They ran at least 10 sets in the first 6 minutes in the game. The one thing you do notice if they get a stop or rebound. They push the ball for easy points. They might have run iso 3-4 times. I don't get where you guys get that they don't run plays.
                              I dont think this is something that has been derived from the second half of a game. I think its more derived from the realization that they struggle against the teams that can really make you earn it in the half court. I think from knowing the results against teams that can maje you earn it in the half court, you can come to the conclusion that theyve struggled in the half court, whether they run plays or not.

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                              • Pared
                                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 39337

                                #8760
                                Re: The LeBron James Thread

                                Originally posted by wwharton
                                I see a lot of people mentioning James going left. Probably didn't know that he's left handed. I can't remember when I first heard it but I remember bc I'm the same way (write with my left hand but dominant with the right when playing sports). He may actually be more comfortable finishing to the left... and honestly, I've seen him drive left for layups more than right personally.
                                Really? He shoots right handed...
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