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  • Sam Marlowe
    Banned
    • Aug 2010
    • 1230

    #11881
    Re: The LeBron James Thread

    Originally posted by CMH
    Like wwharton said, no one is saying that...or at least I know I'm not saying that.
    I don't mean to lump everyone in together. That my mistake if I came across that way. But that sentiment has definitely been strong in some factions of the media and fans in general.

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    • ojandpizza
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 29807

      #11882
      What's completely mind blowing (to me anyways) is that even if he didn't bounce back amazingly the way he did last season, he still could have probably been the best player I've witnessed since MJ.. It's crazy to think that, but he's just been that good in my eyes.

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      • d11king
        MVP
        • Feb 2011
        • 2716

        #11883
        Re: The LeBron James Thread

        I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say LeBron is going to score 30+ points and shoot over 60% in the All-Star Game as well.

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        • ojandpizza
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2011
          • 29807

          #11884
          His streak ended at 39 points and 58% tonight with a win over the Thunder..

          Still a damn badass lol. He actually would have had the 60% but the idiot took a deep 3 very late in the 4th.

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          • The 24th Letter
            ERA
            • Oct 2007
            • 39373

            #11885
            Told you, lol

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            • Rockie_Fresh88
              Lockdown Defender
              • Oct 2011
              • 9621

              #11886
              Re: The LeBron James Thread

              Originally posted by ojandpizza
              His streak ended at 39 points and 58% tonight with a win over the Thunder..

              Still a damn badass lol. He actually would have had the 60% but the idiot took a deep 3 very late in the 4th.
              It's ironic but it made me Kinda respect the streak more lol

              He just out there balling , forget stats
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              • SteelersFreak
                All Star
                • May 2004
                • 9582

                #11887
                Re: The LeBron James Thread

                Originally posted by ojandpizza
                His streak ended at 39 points and 58% tonight with a win over the Thunder..

                Still a damn badass lol. He actually would have had the 60% but the idiot took a deep 3 very late in the 4th.
                Yeah what an idiot for not being aware that taking one shot was going to knock him below 60%. Props to him for not caring.
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                • The 24th Letter
                  ERA
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 39373

                  #11888
                  I'm 99% sure he wasn't actually calling him an idiot SF lol

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                  • CMH
                    Making you famous
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 26203

                    #11889
                    Originally posted by ojandpizza
                    His streak ended at 39 points and 58% tonight with a win over the Thunder..

                    Still a damn badass lol. He actually would have had the 60% but the idiot took a deep 3 very late in the 4th.
                    Well, to be fair, he was trying to beat the shot clock.


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                    • d11king
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2716

                      #11890
                      Re: The LeBron James Thread

                      Originally posted by CMH
                      Well, to be fair, he was trying to beat the shot clock.


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                      Stupid DWade for fouling out haha.

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                      • Kriech23
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 2302

                        #11891
                        Re: The LeBron James Thread

                        Originally posted by CMH
                        Well, to be fair, he was trying to beat the shot clock.


                        Sent from my mobile device.
                        He should have taken an extra dribble or two to ensure that shot would go up after the buzzer and wouldn't count against him. -KD

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                        • ojandpizza
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 29807

                          #11892
                          Originally posted by SteelersFreak
                          Yeah what an idiot for not being aware that taking one shot was going to knock him below 60%. Props to him for not caring.
                          Haha I was only joking man

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                          • wwharton
                            *ll St*r
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 26949

                            #11893
                            Re: The LeBron James Thread

                            Originally posted by CMH
                            It's not fair to simply spot greatness and settle for it. Most of us that complained about his game understood he was playing great, but we also saw the potential to go beyond his great play into something legendary (Yes, hyperbole for the win, but I'm trying to separate the two in words. Not easy).
                            Honestly, if he keeps up this consistency, legendary is definitely the appropriate word.

                            Originally posted by Sam Marlowe
                            Maybe I haven't done a good enough job of explaining my view, wouldn't be the first time. I think the criticism of LBJ as it has pertained to the flaws he had in his game from his 3rd year to his 8th year were definitely warranted. But honestly for me it was like getting on a caterpillar for being butt *** ugly. In reality all you have to do is wait and then you'll see the gradual transformation. LBJ had to learn the tough lessons that most of the great ones had to learn before they rose to their peak. Outside of Kobe Bean Bryant there isn't a player more aware of NBA history and his place in it than LBJ. So my contention has always been this, yeah he's going to coast on his talents (thats what immature youngsters tend to do) but if he's really serious about this being one the greatest ever thing then he better make the turn when its time. And frankly its not like he made no progress in his approach to the game from year 3 to year 8. We saw him get incrementally better in some aspects of the game. We just never saw him make "the leap".

                            In my opinion, that Mavs series had to happen if he was ever really going to become the player he is now. Up until that point a great case could always be made that he bared less responsibility for his teams coming up short that anybody else did. No matter what he was as an individual, his teams (one could certainly argue) were not of championship caliber. The Mavs series changed all that. Not only did every other player on that Heat team succeed in their role, LBJ had played phenomenally up until that series. The Mavs had the perfect team to expose his weaknesses and make him come face to face with them. They effectively stripped him of any other place to look for answers. That loss was on him and him alone. And it wasn't just a bad series loss, it was humiliation in its purest form. The clock was ticking down. He was in that period where players either make the jump or peak out and never become what they could have been. I had prepared to right him off if he hadn't done what he did last year. He did though and he's in a space now where I'm sure how much more he can improve. He can definitely improve his on ball defense but I think his improved jumper and post game have pushed him over the top. He's taking the jumpshot now because he wants it and he's using it to punish the D, before he took it because he was forced to. There are some other things to, Im gonna let it go here because I'm starting to ramble. Hope I've come across clearly.
                            I think you're pretty clear and again, I can't speak for everyone, but I think most who criticized agree and agreed with your stance. I think CMH explained it best in his post. It's all a part of the process. As I've said, I wish he stayed in Cleveland. But like you mentioned the Mavs series, I think going to Miami was also a big part in him maturing to the level he's at now.

                            Most importantly, as CMH said, not every caterpillar becomes the butterfly so it wasn't a lock that it would happen. I don't think Shaq ever did. He was just a big *** beastly caterpillar and never really hit any road blocks big enough to force him to evolve the weaknesses of his game. Says a lot about how good he was "as is" but James is similar... insanely talented "as is" only 3 years in. He could've road what he had then all the way to the HOF. I'm happy he's still evolving despite that.

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                            • ojandpizza
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 29807

                              #11894
                              I agree with the "legendary" talk for how he's been playing.

                              His playoff run last year is honestly the best individual run I've watched outside of a few of Jordan's runs. That's counting Magic, Bird, Kobe, Shaq, etc.. What he accomplished, and the way he dominated was something I haven't saw in basketball in almost 20years.

                              He's doing something else that I haven't seen done since Jordan as well. And that is separating himself from the other superstars in the league. Jordan could always do that. And he was probably the only player to ever do that for a long stretch since maybe Kareem in the late 70s..

                              In the 80's you had Magic, Bird, at a point maybe Dr.J and Kareem.. Hell even Magic and Bird weren't always even final MVPs on their own teams. It was hard to say who the hands down best player was for that decade.

                              Then you had Jordan... After him it was Shaq, or Duncan, or Kobe, at times maybe even KG, AI, or T-Mac.. There was never that clear cut alpha dog in the league.

                              But now I think LeBron is doing that. Especially if the guy can get another ring or two. He's separating himself individually and he's beating all those guys who's name gets mentioned with him.. Much like Jordan did.

                              Just look at last years finals. Durant averaged damn 30ppg and still didn't even look like he was on LeBron's level. He's doing it now this season, against Durant, Kobe, whoever. He just simply outshines everybody, very Jordan-esque.

                              - not trying to have a Jordan/LeBron comparison at all. I'm just saying I haven't saw something this above and beyond the competition since Jordan played.

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                              • ojandpizza
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 29807

                                #11895
                                Originally posted by mars5541
                                It's ironic but it made me Kinda respect the streak more lol

                                He just out there balling , forget stats
                                Well he didn't go to college.. Maybe he thought he could fit one more miss in there and it still be 60% haha.

                                Joking of course

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