2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

[Drewski]

Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

In what area? He is athletic, and consistent. He also could dunk when attacking the rim in traffic. He was a deadly accurate shooter and the floater of his was near unstoppable. The only thing is, he is a natural 2 gaurd, so if he is drafted as a PG he will being playing an unnatural position.

Definitely would be unnatural. Just another example of a role player in this draft. He'd be a great off the bench combo guard, potentially. I like Kemba more, but Nolan does his thing.

[Mintsa]

Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

I'm sorry, I just don't see Kemba falling too far. If Im' a GM, I take him early. Dude just has the "winning" game. I think that he'll have a far better career than most in this draft. I'm not sure why the hype isn't there for him, as it is with Kyrie, but whoever ends up with Kemba will have had a good draft. If I'm the Cavs, I go Williams at 1 and Kemba at 4. I know it won't happen, but in my 2k11 fantasy association, that's what is happening

I agree ! I would love for the Raps to pick up Kemba at #5........but no Knight has to fall to the Raps instead and they'll draft off his "potential". I might even rather have the Raps pick up Bismack instead of Knight, Im just not feeling all of this "potential" non-sense.

Anyways, best case scenario for tonight is David Stern announcing Kemba's name at 5 when the Raps pick.

[bobcats55]

Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

Definitely would be unnatural. Just another example of a role player in this draft. He'd be a great off the bench combo guard, potentially. I like Kemba more, but Nolan does his thing.

Yeah, he does lack the height to be drafted into his natural role of SG. With Joe Johnson and Kobe he would have no chance on D. Maybe he can land the 6th man role on a team. I do feel like the game he has will transfer, its just what he will have to play to make it happen

[bigfnjoe96]

Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

nbadraftnet NBADraft.net
We hear there is a 3 team deal in the works with Utah moving to 2 Wash to 3 and Minn moving down to 6 #NBAdraft
2 minutes ago

And so it begins.....

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

In what area? He is athletic, and consistent. He also could dunk when attacking the rim in traffic. He was a deadly accurate shooter and the floater of his was near unstoppable. The only thing is, he is a natural 2 gaurd, so if he is drafted as a PG he will being playing an unnatural position.

For one, he isn't that athletic. Half an inch taller than Ben Gordon with a pedestrian 6'5.5" wingspan (Gordon, an undersized SG, had a 6'8.5" wingspan when he was drafted). He's one inch taller than Jimmer Fredette, with a wingspan of just one inch more. His no-step vert is half an inch better than Jimmer's, and 3 inches worse than Ben Gordon's. And his max vert is an inch better than Jimmer's and 3.5 inches worse than Gordon's. He also tested out as weaker than both Jimmer and Ben Gordon and not as quick as Jimmer.

His shot isn't "deadly accurate". It's pretty good though. I have no idea about that floater, but he shot about as well from 2 point range as Jimmer, who generally isn't regarded as a great finisher (although I think he's underrated).

My vibe on Nolan Smith more has to do with my gut feeling. He just didn't look like a good NBA player in college to me. He never seemed to be a great ball-handler to me and I don't think his offense is enough to make up for being an undersized SG that isn't very quick.

Edit: I honestly don't know if I would even put Nolan Smith ahead of Ben Hansbrough at this point. They're about the same size and I think Hansbrough has a better feel for the game and is a much better shooter.

[BleacherBum2310]

Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

The Cavs still want MORE lottery picks - Chris Sheridan


I can understand the logic, but I'm not a big fan of loading up for ONE draft. Too many eggs in the basket. Though if theres a draft where you can do it - it's this one. See a ton of role players who will be easy to get a hold of, and provide a ton of financial flexibility with rookie contracts.

I agree.. But if there really high on these players I say go for it. Also if It's Sessions in any of these deals it makes sense since there probably going to have to deal him anyways. With Baron and Irving as their PGs..

[Drewski]

Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

I agree.. But if there really high on these players I say go for it. Also if It's Sessions in any of these deals it makes sense since there probably going to have to deal him anyways. With Baron and Irving as their PGs..

Yeah. I personally like alot of the guys in the draft as role players, so this is a great draft to fill out a roster with different talents.

[ZB9]

Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

Mavs need a back up PF but I hope they draft the best player available instead of reaching for need

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

Mavs need a back up PF but I hope they draft the best player available instead of reaching for need

I've heard they're very interested in Nikola Mirotic, don't remember where I heard that though.

[Drewski]

Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

I've heard they're very interested in Nikola Mirotic, don't remember where I heard that though.

I've also heard Mirotic is almost a lock for the Mavs.

[bobcats55]

Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

For one, he isn't that athletic. Half an inch taller than Ben Gordon with a pedestrian 6'5.5" wingspan (Gordon, an undersized SG, had a 6'8.5" wingspan when he was drafted). He's one inch taller than Jimmer Fredette, with a wingspan of just one inch more. His no-step vert is half an inch better than Jimmer's, and 3 inches worse than Ben Gordon's. And his max vert is an inch better than Jimmer's and 3.5 inches worse than Gordon's. He also tested out as weaker than both Jimmer and Ben Gordon and not as quick as Jimmer.

His shot isn't "deadly accurate". It's pretty good though. I have no idea about that floater, but he shot about as well from 2 point range as Jimmer, who generally isn't regarded as a great finisher (although I think he's underrated).

My vibe on Nolan Smith more has to do with my gut feeling. He just didn't look like a good NBA player in college to me. He never seemed to be a great ball-handler to me and I don't think his offense is enough to make up for being an undersized SG that isn't very quick.

Edit: I honestly don't know if I would even put Nolan Smith ahead of Ben Hansbrough at this point. They're about the same size and I think Hansbrough has a better feel for the game and is a much better shooter.

All of that is true. But in all reality the height is the major problem. If he could go into his natural position he would be fine because he has learned to play within his means. Being that he is undersized, he would have to play PG which is definitely a blow to his draft stock. I am curious to see how his career pans out.

Heres another question. There has been some buzz that Charlotte may draft Chris Singleton from FSU to begin to replace the hole left from the Wallace trade. What are the thoughts about him?

[ZB9]

Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

I've heard they're very interested in Nikola Mirotic, don't remember where I heard that though.

ya ive been hearing that a lot

He's supposedly a "lottery talent" but is going to be playing in Europe for the next couple of years so will be drafted late. That would be ideal for Dallas. He can get some experience in a top European league instead of sitting on the bench in the NBA and he'll be more ready when he comes to the league. The Mavs have been doing the same thing with Nick Calathes.

[ehh]

Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

Would you go for this trade?

Reports from ESPN.com indicate that the Knicks are offering the Charlotte Bobcats the #17 pick and Toney Douglas, for our #9 and #19 picks.

Would you do this trade?

I pray the Knicks can pull that trade off. I don't think we care at all about the prospects who are going to be available after the 14th or 15th pick so moving back two spots to 19th won't really mean anything to us. It'd basically be swapping TD for Kemba, PLEASE let this happen.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

ya ive been hearing that a lot

He's supposedly a "lottery talent" but is going to be playing in Europe for the next couple of years so will be drafted late. That would be ideal for Dallas. He can get some experience in a top European league instead of sitting on the bench in the NBA and he'll be more ready when he comes to the league. The Mavs have been doing the same thing with Nick Calathes.

Is he planning on coming to the NBA at some point? I meant to check on how he was doing overseas a week or so ago but never did.

Edit: Wow, Draftexpress says he looks great and he seems to be shooting the ball well, rebounding well, and passing well too. Nice.

[bobcats55]

Re: 2011 NBA Draft Discussion Thread

I pray the Knicks can pull that trade off. I don't think we care at all about the prospects who are going to be available after the 14th or 15th pick so moving back two spots to 19th won't really mean anything to us. It'd basically be swapping TD for Kemba, PLEASE let this happen.

I know I am in the minority here but I would take TD for Kemba any day. TD has proven where he is at, and that he can perform at this level. If given a chance, he could really develop and he can play with DJ on the court or run things with Henderson on the court. Kemba could turn into a bust. At this point, if I am the GM, I take this trade. We'd land the #17 pick for our #19 so basicly a lateral toss there.