NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

[CharliePrince]

Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

Bottom Line, and you know why the PLAYERS are going to be the ones who have to fold?

Because the Owners won't mind at all of just forsaking the entire season

...it's the truth, this isn't the NFL with Billions of $$$$$ on the table folks

and the Players need to realize wtf is going on right now

November 15 cannot come soon enough

first official date players miss paychecks = sooner they fold and we get some basketball

[FlyRice]

Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

Lol at Charlie V.. a guy with a career average of 12.7 ppg saying "hell no" to millions of dollars. Fine, take a big fat zero then.

TOGETHER WE STAND UNEMPLOYED

Fixed.

[da ThRONe]

Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

Why are we even still talking about leverage and sides? Both sides have made it crystal clear that it's **** all us, so **** both of them. Both sides have the power to end this. The players can get they're heads out of their asses and just take the deal already and get this season on the road already but they ain't doing it. The owners can get they're heads out of their asses and see that these other jackasses are going to keep on with this game of chicken and do like most other bullies do when the little guy finally stands up to them. 'You got heart little man, you got heart.' Tip your cap, go to 51 or 52 and get this season on the road. Neither one of these sides are at all innocent in this cause neither one of them give a crap about the side that really matters in all of this and that's us.

This is my point. I think we all know who has the leverage. That doesn't relieve the owners of their responsibility in all of this. Yet some people are blindly supporting them. When it's clear they had no intention to negotiate fairly. Once again at this point I'm not supporting either side. Both have the power to end this and both refuse to.

[OSUFan_88]

Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

Just so we are clear here, Stern was left at the negotiating table by Billy Hunter after Hunter made the ultimatum of 52.

Either way, stop ****ing creating twitter accounts and spurting off slogans and fining people. Get in a room, lock the door, put armed guards on the other side of the door and don't come out until you have a ****ing deal you worthless piles of donkey ****.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

Why are we even still talking about leverage and sides? Both sides have made it crystal clear that it's **** all us, so **** both of them. Both sides have the power to end this. The players can get they're heads out of their asses and just take the deal already and get this season on the road already but they ain't doing it. The owners can get they're heads out of their asses and see that these other jackasses are going to keep on with this game of chicken and do like most other bullies do when the little guy finally stands up to them. 'You got heart little man, you got heart.' Tip your cap, go to 51 or 52 and get this season on the road. Neither one of these sides are at all innocent in this cause neither one of them give a crap about the side that really matters in all of this and that's us.

This. Im not sure how anyone has a "side" in this.

Leverage is important in negotiations. Granted. owners have that.

You know what else is important? not having ultimatums, planning to actually "negotiate"

Even the writers and their respective side taking can all agree on one thing...both sides are idiots lol

somehow this hasnt been grasped yet....but keep on supporting those owners\players, they care about YOU

[23]

Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

I dont know about all of the support talk because anybody planning to watch buy tickets or merchandise or anything else are pretty much supporters of these people


At this point, Billy latrell sprewell Hunter needs to just say ok lets sign on the dotted line

[The 24th Letter]

Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

Or David "has people fooled the owners just want to improve the game" Stern could move off 50\50

ill take either one.

Ill "support" them both after the deal is done....

[23]

Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

Who said anything about improving the game?

Come on man, this isnt about that nor does anyone think that.. we all know that its system is definitely broke as is

..but like I said, all the support talk and people will turn around and buy tickets and t-shirts so that means nothing at all

What matters here is reality...not talking about fair or good faith or any of that spin talk

[TheMatrix31]

Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

Or David "has people fooled the owners just want to improve the game" Stern could move off 50\50

Why would he though? That's the crux of all of this. Why WOULD he? Why WOULD they? They don't HAVE to do ANYTHING.

It seems like so many people just think that just because a deal "should be done" means its just as easy as doing that. That's not how ANY of this works.

This isn't some utopian fantasy of "oh, just get it done".

[The 24th Letter]

Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

What does this last lingering issue have to do with fixing the broken system?

nothing. this is part the owners hanging on the rim after already winning the game. and part the players prolonging the game with intentional fouls lol

as far as "support", the discussion was about taking sides with people who couldnt care less how you feel, not whether youll buy tickets once the season starts..

LOL @ spin talk..... its fact. its just that not everyones drinking the owners kool aid. The reality is either side could end the lockout with a pinch of sensibleness at this point.

Thats reality. Whether you choose to ignore it or not.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

Why would he though? That's the crux of all of this. Why WOULD he? Why WOULD they? They don't HAVE to do ANYTHING.

It seems like so many people just think that just because a deal "should be done" means its just as easy as doing that. That's not how ANY of this works.

This isn't some utopian fantasy of "oh, just get it done".

I think a month of cancelled games let us all know coming to an agreement isnt easy. Not sure what your point is here.

[TheMatrix31]

Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

I think I made my point clear.

[cmebfresh]

Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

I miss basketball my Heat was suppose to be on Now!. I guess i'll watch the game on 2k

[23]

I just want to know who's drinking owners kool-aid because none of us here are and nobody including players are buying billys chop talk

He might be the one losing his job for not stepping forth to as you say To end it

Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk

[da ThRONe]

Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

What does this last lingering issue have to do with fixing the broken system?

nothing. this is part the owners hanging on the rim after already winning the game. and part the players prolonging the game with intentional fouls lol

as far as "support", the discussion was about taking sides with people who couldnt care less how you feel, not whether youll buy tickets once the season starts..

LOL @ spin talk..... its fact. its just that not everyones drinking the owners kool aid. The reality is either side could end the lockout with a pinch of sensibleness at this point.

Thats reality. Whether you choose to ignore it or not.

I don't get the player hate for not caving, but nobody is saying hey owners how about you guys get off your high horse and meet the players at X amount.

Some people have the "might is right" logic. Just because the owners are in a position of power don't mean there case is just. Likewise I have shifted to calling the players out because at this point both sides are losing. They both are willing to cut the baby in half just to prove a point and that's dumb. Now I'm calling both sides out not just the side with the "ZERO" leverage.