NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

[TN3LL]

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sam_amick Sam Amick
Can confirm @WojYahooNBA tweet about Lakers' Steve Blake rallying the "silent majority" troops. Blake is irate at union and wants to play.

[OSUFan_88]

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Man, all this talk, it's clear, the players are killing each other.

The owners have officially broken the Union.

[jeremym480]

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Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Parker said players have 2 options: accept deal or decertify. He thinks players could decertify and get deal done in time for season.

How can someone be a team's player rep and have no ****ing clue what the hell is going on? If the decertify the season is done! How do the yahoo's not understand this. Hell I understand it and I only half *** follow the NBA.

[TN3LL]

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tribjazz Brian T. Smith
by EricPincus
Can confirm @WojYahooNBA's report about #Lakers guard Steve Blake, who has reached out to Kobe Bryant and LaMarcus Aldridge in attempt to push for 50-50 vote, source says. Bryant is open to the idea, according to the source.

daldridgetnt David Aldridge
Per source, still no vote expected--even a non-binding one--among player reps on current labor proposal at tomorrow's union meeting.

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Despite Blake's efforts, conversations w/ agents and players today suggest there's still much stronger support for rejecting league offer.

[TheMatrix31]

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Anthony Parker is mentally deficient.

[TN3LL]

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tribjazz Brian T. Smith
#Lakers' Kobe Bryant and #Blazers' LaMarcus Aldridge, Portland's player rep, open to idea of pushing for 50-50 vote, source says.

[King_B_Mack]

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Man Dan Gilbert has to have Parker's family snatched up somewhere. No way anybody can be THAT stupid.

Anyway, I think we can stop labeling all NBA players as idiots and in need of being taught a lesson considering they aren't even being allowed to show that they're smart or dumb enough to accept or not accept any deal that's been presented.

[aholbert32]

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Man Dan Gilbert has to have Parker's family snatched up somewhere. No way anybody can be THAT stupid.

Anyway, I think we can stop labeling all NBA players as idiots and in need of being taught a lesson considering they aren't even being allowed to show that they're smart or dumb enough to accept or not accept any deal that's been presented.

Parker is dumb because he believes you can decertify and still have a season. If they vote for decertification, that will happen be January and there is no way the league will hold the season if that happens.

[TN3LL]

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alanhahn Alan Hahn
FWIW: #NBPA VP Roger Mason Jr tells Newsday "There will be no vote" on #NBA proposal at player rep mtg. Details will be outlined, tho. #fb

[CMH]

Big difference between players on a sports team and the guy serving you your fries. I'm going to the McD's for the fries not to see Ray Ray and Zitface Tommy. I'm going to the United Center cause I wanna see D-Rose or Jordan breakdown some fools.

I'm only quoting this because everything else falls under the convo.

You're forgetting that the next Rose or media picked Jordan is probably in high school right now.

The league will find replacements. They always do every year there's a draft.

Sure you won't have Rose or Howard but those two weren't around for the last lockout. If the owners went to college and overseas to fill their rosters, it wouldn't take long before new stars emerged.

The product is basketball. The players are replaceable.

And yes things won't change if Bill Gates somehow purchased the entire NBA but that wasn't the point. The point is the players need a league so they could play organized basketball that provides them millions of dollars. And it takes billionaires to make that happen.

If the players didn't need the owners, they would be making millions in their little scrimmages they've been running.


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[aholbert32]

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The exec committee doesn't want them to vote. They know there is a good chance it would pass.

[TN3LL]

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Kobe wants NBA owners to meet with players

By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports
17 minutes ago
As the NBA and Players Association trudge toward a possible doomsday deadline, Los Angeles Lakers star Kobe Bryant(notes) urged owners to meet with the players union before Wednesday and spare the league from “spiraling into a nuclear winter.”

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“We need for the two sides to get together again before Wednesday, because we’re too close to getting a deal done,” Bryant told Yahoo! Sports on Monday. “We need to iron out the last system items and save this from spiraling into a nuclear winter.”

The NBA and Players Association are discussing setting up a meeting for Tuesday to try and reach agreement on a labor deal, a league source told Yahoo! Sports. Nothing is finalized, but the sides were working toward having a session in New York before before Wednesday’s league-imposed deadline for the union to accept the owners’ current offer.

Lakers guard Steve Blake(notes) has been canvassing peers throughout the league over the past 48 hours, pushing them to contact team player representatives to push the Players Association to let its 450-plus membership vote on the owner’s ultimatum offer, sources said.

Blake hasn’t been pushing players to vote “yes” or “no” on the deal, but has gained a groundswell of support with players throughout the league. Nevertheless, Blake is a proponent of accepting the league’s current offer, sources said.

As a counter, there are multiple players pushing to get a petition together to start the process of decertifying the union, perhaps as soon as Wednesday. Agents have little doubt they can muster the 30 percent of the union – approximately 130 players – to push decertification to a formal vote after a 45-day waiting period.

Players representatives of the 30 teams are meeting in New York on Tuesday to discuss the union’s next steps.

[WTF]

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Why would they not put it to a vote? It affects them all... so why not at least get their input. This players union is a joke.

I never thought I'd say "I want Steve Blake on my team"... but if I was the Players Union, that's what I'd be saying. Seems like he knows what the rest of us know, that this is the best that the offer is going to get.

Meet tomorrow, hammer it out, sign on Wednesday, get the FA period started.

[OSUFan_88]

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There must be a meeting tomorrow and the players need to come out of it with a deal they can accept.

[CMH]

The exec committee doesn't want them to vote. They know there is a good chance it would pass.

It's worth repeating that it is beyond maddening that the committee won't let the people they are representing vote for what they want.

Imagine being in high school and the current student body rep wouldn't let people vote for a new rep because he/she didn't like the candidates offered by the principal. Crazy.


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