NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

[TN3LL]

Re: NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

i thought Anthony Parker was a FA. how i she still the cavs team rep?

[TheMatrix31]

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I don't even know who the Suns rep is, lol.

[TN3LL]

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sam_amick Sam Amick
Third agent chimed in to say his 12 guys all willing to decertify. Not part of the Super Seven.

[TN3LL]

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I don't even know who the Suns rep is, lol.

i think its Dudley. Not sure though

[King_B_Mack]

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I'm only quoting this because everything else falls under the convo.

You're forgetting that the next Rose or media picked Jordan is probably in high school right now.

The league will find replacements. They always do every year there's a draft.

Sure you won't have Rose or Howard but those two weren't around for the last lockout. If the owners went to college and overseas to fill their rosters, it wouldn't take long before new stars emerged.

The product is basketball. The players are replaceable.

And yes things won't change if Bill Gates somehow purchased the entire NBA but that wasn't the point. The point is the players need a league so they could play organized basketball that provides them millions of dollars. And it takes billionaires to make that happen.

If the players didn't need the owners, they would be making millions in their little scrimmages they've been running.


Sent from my mobile device.

In the scenario we're discussing they don't have ANY of the superstars right now. They don't have ANY of the players in the league right now, they're starting over completely. The league is not going to just make stars out of the guys that are coming out of college or overseas in a year or two. Guys that aren't ready to be in the NBA is what you're saying they're going to be successful with. An NBA full of Kyrie Irvings, JJ Redicks and Adam Morrisons? No thanks.

[WTF]

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sam_amick Sam Amick
Third agent chimed in to say his 12 guys all willing to decertify. Not part of the Super Seven.

I think a lot of these agents are doing what they think give the players leverage. Which it doesn't. Of course they're not giong to say "Oh yeah, my players are for the 50/50 deal..." they'll try to play the scare card, to see if the owners will budge, which they won't. Useless tactic IMO.

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Go head Fish.. dont even let them voice their opinions on their livelyhoods

Let Hunter and Kessler do what they think is best for everybody

Go right ahead and reject that vote because Sarver Gilbert Sterling MJ Stern and all the rest of them are going to rip several rings of nothingness right into your behinds for being so stubborn

..and its CLEAR that Anthony Parker saying have a season and decert shows he knows absolutely nothing at all about the process nor about whats going on..

[TN3LL]

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ChrisMannixSI Chris Mannix
One player told SI he has heard nothing from the union regarding a vote--formal or informal--before the NBA's Wednesday deadline

[aholbert32]

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Keep in mind the membership doesn't have to accept the proposal before Wednesday only the Executive Committee has too. So if there is no vote scheduled before Wednesday, no need to think a deal can't be made before wednesday.

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Deal can be made for sure.. you're right

but is that looking likely with some of these responses?

What is Fishers plan

What is Billy's plan B?

Those are important questions

[aholbert32]

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Deal can be made for sure.. you're right

but is that looking likely with some of these responses?

What is Fishers plan

What is Billy's plan B?

Those are important questions

Best case scenario: The league agrees to meet Tues or Wed. League stays firm on the 49-51 band but gives them a few wins like giving sign and trades to tax teams and giving tax teams a higher MLE. The Union begrudgingly accepts. We have games starting Dec. 10 or 15.

Worst case scenario: Anything else.

It the owners stick to the take or leave it stance, the players will approve a desert vote. The league will then cancel games through Dec. later this week. Union and Owners may meet sometime over the next few weeks but no guarantee that this happens. League looks to officially cancel season in mid-Jan.

[da ThRONe]

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Best case scenario: The league agrees to meet Tues or Wed. League stays firm on the 49-51 band but gives them a few wins like giving sign and trades to tax teams and giving tax teams a higher MLE. The Union begrudgingly accepts. We have games starting Dec. 10 or 15.

Worst case scenario: Anything else.

It the owners stick to the take or leave it stance, the players will approve a desert vote. The league will then cancel games through Dec. later this week. Union and Owners may meet sometime over the next few weeks but no guarantee that this happens. League looks to officially cancel season in mid-Jan.

I foresee your best case scenario. People panic when deadlines are issued.

[TheMatrix31]

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I think season cancellation happens sooner this time. Everything seems accelerated. Could be wrong.

[TN3LL]

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HowardBeckNYT Howard Beck
NBA official says no meeting scheduled with union tomorrow, and none being attempted at the moment. (But things change quickly.)

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HowardBeckNYT Howard Beck
NBA official says no meeting scheduled with union tomorrow, and none being attempted at the moment. (But things change quickly.)

I don't see then scheduling a last minute meeting

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